2 Questions

[Guest]

Hi

I run Win 2K with Excel 2K

Question 1

I have some VB code in the "Sheet 1" module of my excel file.

The code is as follows:

Private Sub Worksheet_Change(ByVal Target As Excel.Range)
If Target.Column <> 12 Then Exit Sub
On Error GoTo ErrHandler
Application.EnableEvents = False
Target.Formula = UCase(Target.Formula)
ErrHandler:
Application.EnableEvents = True
End Sub

I would like this code to run automatically whenever the file is opened. (I
am assuming that this would remove the enable/disable dialog box option when
opening the file)

Can someone tell me how I might be able to do this?


Question 2

The worksheet I have is protected and contains a number of cells that allow
data entry. The problem I have is that a number of people use this
spreadsheet and some of these users change the formatting in the cells that
allow data entry.

Is there any code that I can add that would still allow the data entry but
not allow changes to the formatting?

Any help is much appreciated.

John

 

[Guest]

question 1 = put the code in a open_workbook event so the code auto runs the
macro when the book is opened

question 2 = you could protect the cells you which data to be entered but
allow data entry only ,

 

[Gord Dibben]

John

This is event code.

The code does run automatically whenever you enter text in any cell in column 12
which is column L.

No need to remove anything from the code.

On August 9th you posted that you had everything worked out.

What transpired since then?

Are you having a problem?


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

 

[Gord Dibben]

Rich

The code is change event code which runs on a cell by cell basis as text is
entered in column 12(L).

Not a macro to be run once.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

 

[Guest]

Thank you for your response.

The problem that I am having is that although the code works fine, some of
the users of this spreadsheet take the option of disabling the macros when
opening the file. As the code is designed to enforce capitals in column 12
when the "disable macros" option is taken when opening the spreadsheet, the
enforced capitals no longer works. What I would like is that when the
spreadsheet opens, that the user does not get the option of enable/disable
macros but the code still runs.

If there is some code that could do this and if I knew where to put it then
maybe this would solve my problem.

Thanks

John

 

[Bob Phillips]

You cannot stop them getting that message without setting your security
setting to low (which is a very bad idea), but you can take some defensive
action.

The standard way to approach this is as follows.
- create a worksheet with a message on explaining that for this workbook to
run it needs macros enabled, maybe even a few screenshots
- hide all other worksheets]
- add some code in the Workbook_Open event that un hides the other sheets,
but hides that sheet.


What happens is that if they do not enable macros, they will only see the
warning sheet, telling them how to do it. If the enable macros, it will
startup as the workbook it should be.



--
HTH

Bob Phillips

(replace somewhere in email address with gmail if mailing direct)

 

[Gord Dibben]

John

You do not have the option of not allowing users to disable macros as long as
they can see the enable/disable message when the workbook opens.

You can digitally sign the workbook so they don't get the message or you can
render the workbook useless if the users disable macros.

i.e. if users disable macros and open the workbook all they see is a blank sheet
with a message like "in order to use this workbook, macros must be enabled.
please close and re-open with macros enabled". Other worksheets will be hidden.

If they do choose to close and reopen, the workbook returns to normal view with
worksheets unhidden.

You need workbook_open and workbook_beforeclose code to achieve this.


Gord

 

[Guest]

Thanks Bob & Gord for your replies. As I dont have the visual basic skills to
achieve all of this I think I will just reinforce with the users that they
must enable the macros. As there are only a couple of users that consitantly
disregard the "enable macros" option I guess I was trying to make the sheet
"Idiot Proof" for these users.

The other question I asked was the worksheet I have is protected and
contains a number of cells that allow data entry.

The problem I have is that a number of people use this spreadsheet and some
of these users change the formatting in the cells that allow data entry.

Is there any code that I can add that would still allow the data entry but
not allow changes to the formatting?





At least I know what can and cant be done in this situation in regards to
the enable/disable macro so I have at least learned something from you both.


Many Thanks

John

 

[Guest]

Update to problem

I spoke to the people using the spread sheet and they in fact take the
"enable macro" option on startup. What they are doing is entering a lower
case letter in the cell and BEFORE the hit "enter" they are grabbing the
"handle" of the curser and dragging it down the colum. This results in the
code enforcing the first entry to a capital letter but the following entries
remain lower case. Not sure if the code can be adjusted to accomodate this?

John

 

[Gord Dibben]

Pretty strange bunch you have there.

Why would they copy a letter down the column?

To stop that behavior you could amend the code to disable drag and drop but
remember this........i"just when you have it idiot-proof out pops another
species of idiot"

Private Sub Worksheet_Change(ByVal Target As Range)
If Target.Column <> 12 Then Exit Sub
On Error GoTo ErrHandler
Application.EnableEvents = False
Application.CellDragAndDrop = False
Target.Formula = UCase(Target.Formula)
ErrHandler:
Application.EnableEvents = True
End Sub


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

 

[Bob Phillips]

Lets' be honest, the idiots are smarter than us <g>

--
HTH

Bob Phillips

(replace somewhere in email address with gmail if mailing direct)

 

[Gord Dibben]

I wouldn't say smarter but they sure have more stamina and inventiveness<g>

Lets' be honest, the idiots are smarter than us <g>

Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

 

[Guest]

Thanks guys, I got quite a laugh from your replies.

I will try the code you sent me Bob, and then look fowrwrd to seeing how
they over come that !

Thanks again !

John

 

[Guest]

Bob I think your code will almost get me there, just one more thing, is there
something that can be added that enables "drag and drop" on "exit" of the
work sheet?

Thanks

John

 

[Gord Dibben]

John

In the same worksheet module............

Private Sub Worksheet_Deactivate()
Application.CellDragAndDrop = True
End Sub

When switching to another sheet the above will run.

But if you will save/close the workbook without switching sheets the drag and
drop won't be re-enabled.

You need more code to accomodate that event.

Right-click on the Excel Icon left of "File" on the menubar and select "View
Code"

Copy/paste this into that Thiswotkbook module.

Private Sub Workbook_BeforeClose(Cancel As Boolean)
Application.CellDragAndDrop = True
End Sub


Gord

 

[Guest]

Gord

So very close !!! I really do appreciate your help with this.

Your code works fine in regards to returning the "enable - drop and drag"
after you close the file. There is however one small glitch. Even although I
have included this code:

Private Sub Worksheet_Deactivate()
Application.CellDragAndDrop = True
End Sub

in the same work sheet as per your instruction, when you first open the file
the drag down handle is available on the curser. Then, once you do a single
drag down with it the curser then no longer allows the drag down to function
as the drag and drop is then no longer activated. Is there something I am
missing or is this just the way it works?

Many Thanks


John

 

[Gord Dibben]

The disabling of drag and drop will not take place until the original
Worksheet_Change event is triggered.

You could disable drag and drop in workbook_open code, but D&D is global setting
so you get into problems there unless your sheet is always active when you open
the workbook.

This is getting more complex as we move along.

First............

Remove the line Application.CellDragAndDrop = False form the original
worksheet_change code.

Then add the following to the sheet module along with the Worksheet_Deactivate
and the Worksheet_Change

Private Sub Worksheet_Activate()
Application.CellDragAndDrop = False
End Sub

Now add this to the Thisworkbook module

Private Sub Workbook_Open()
Sheets("Sheet1").Activate 'where sheet1 is you sheetname
End Sub

This is what we will have................

The workbook_open code activates the worksheet which diasbles D&D because of the
worksheet_activate.

The worksheet_change will Uppercase the entries.

If you switch to another worksheet or workbook, the worksheet_deactivate will
enable D&D

If you save/close the workbook, the workbook_beforeclose will enable D&D

How we doing so far?<g>


Gord

Gord

So very close !!! I really do appreciate your help with this.

Your code works fine in regards to returning the "enable - drop and drag"
after you close the file. There is however one small glitch. Even although I
have included this code:

Private Sub Worksheet_Deactivate()
Application.CellDragAndDrop = True
End Sub

in the same work sheet as per your instruction, when you first open the file
the drag down handle is available on the curser. Then, once you do a single
drag down with it the curser then no longer allows the drag down to function
as the drag and drop is then no longer activated. Is there something I am
missing or is this just the way it works?

Many Thanks


John

Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

 

[Guest]

Absolutely Brilliant !

Well done Gord !

It works exactly how you said it would. I realise this has taken some of
your time up and I appreciate it very much. This whole excercise probably
seems a liitle extravagant but this has become a battle between me and a
couple of users and I now feel the battle has been won.

Of course I realise that its impossible to "idot proof" a spreadsheet but
this a a great step towards it

Once again many thanks for your expert help

John Calder

 

[Gord Dibben]

John

Was a good lesson for me also.

Appreciate you sticking with me as I fumbled through from one step to the next.

Now, I just hope no user actually does disable macros<g>

There are methods of dealing with that also, but let's wait and see.


Gord

Absolutely Brilliant !

Well done Gord !

It works exactly how you said it would. I realise this has taken some of
your time up and I appreciate it very much. This whole excercise probably
seems a liitle extravagant but this has become a battle between me and a
couple of users and I now feel the battle has been won.

Of course I realise that its impossible to "idot proof" a spreadsheet but
this a a great step towards it

Once again many thanks for your expert help

John Calder

Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP