2 new probs at startup

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Guest

Windows XP Pro, 2002, SP2

Boss had his techie come in last week to track down a virus or something
that had been causing problems when web browsing, getting worse over a couple
months, when it became obvious it was caused by *something*. He took off the
Norton AV he had installed back when, and replaced with Avast and CCleaner.

Sometime back in May or June, I went out on the web to look up something at
the company's bank website, and about half a dozen pop-ups came up very
quickly, including one that showed something was downloading something.
Couldn't close them, and more just kept opening. Ctrl+Alt+Del wouldn't work,
so had to just turn off the computer. When I re-booted, set the IE blockers
to as high as they would go, but over the next few weeks, going on the web
just deteriorated to a hopeless problem. Had my techie friend download
Mozilla's Foxfire, as he put it on my home computer and everything runs
great. At work, tho, Foxfire had as bad a problem as IE, and sometimes would
freeze up everything to the point I would just have to restart. Eventually,
told my boss either his techie or mine would have to do something, because by
mid-July, it was obvious it would only keep deteriorating, and I was
beginning to worry about the safety and privacy of my daily work (QuickBooks,
Excel, Word, etc.)

The one problem I need help with, started a week or so before the boss'
techie came in, the other right after, but not sure if it is even related to
anything he did.

Problem 1: Everytime I start the computer, it now stops at that "choose
administrator or user" window, where it did not do that before. It only
shows 'user'. I did not ask it to do this; just want it to go straight to
the desktop. I am the only user, but now worry about what/why switched it
over to doing that.

Problem 2: About every other time I start the computer, when it does get to
the desktop, it auto-opens Windows Explorer, specifically to the My Documents
window. Didn't ask it to do that either. There is NOTHING in ANY of my
Startup folders; anytime I add a program, I double check ALL the startup
sub-folders under the "Documents and Settings" folder. There is nothing
there, much less any shortcut to the My Documents folder. Plain weird.

Now, there is a little yellow shield in my icon tray that wants me to
re-start for something, and I obviously don't want to do that, especially
since its message box, with the "Restart now" and "Restart later" buttons,
fails to identify (in its title bar) the program that is demanding I restart,
just says "Automatic Updates", but no one has set anything to automatically
update. Anytime I open Windows Explorer, that message box pops up, so now
it's worrying me, too.

Any ideas? While the boss' techie was here, told him about Prob #1, and he
said that was a simple re-set, but he was going to have the computer running
a system check for awhile, and to call him and he would walk me through it.
But now with the auto-opening of My Dox, I feel *something* may still be out
there, doing whatever the heck it wants. His virus checker found a few
things, but there is this odd little DLL file it finds every couple of days,
back in the same place it found it before, and though I tell it to remove it,
in a couple days, it's back again. Meaning something is still on my
computer, putting it back there, and the techie's programs didn't find the
mother program that keeps laying this freakin' egg.

Obviously, I no longer have much faith in the boss' techie, even if the guy
does make his living doing this (self-employed, 1-man op, but he makes a good
living at it). My techie doesn't quite make a living with the odd-jobs he
picks up, but when I have him fix something, it doesn't pop up again.
However, don't want to get in a fuss with the boss over the techie he's used
for years, just want to stop the stuff that is happening. Besides, my boss
barely understands computers, and rather than think his techie didn't know
what to do, he would presume the virus was one of those unfixable problems
you hear about, and I would have to suffer through yet another HD wipe-out &
total reinstall. They did one of those in Apr 2005, right before I started,
and then we had to do it again in Sep, so no, I don't put a lot of faith in
what that techie can do.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Am hoping the Probs 1 & 2 are simple
to fix; will deal with the techie issue with my boss later (unless my
computer just gives up the ghost because of it).
 
G

Guest

Right after my question posted, the post right below it came up also:

"System32 folders opens up every time I start my computer"

Replied to by Will Denny:

Please see the following link to Kelly's web site:

Line 260 - right hand side
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

That had a fix for my Problem # 2 (Kelly's line # 255, right-hand side)

Thanx, Will!
 
G

Guest

Come to think of it, maybe I better leave the logon screen there.

As I recall (a memory prompted by that Kelly's website, thanks again,
Will!), I can set the Admin logon to be the only one to allow downloads, so
while in user mode, I should be able to 'safely' go out on the web without
further worries. I think.

Need to check with my techie. At my previous job, he locked down the
computers so the managers couldn't access the internet, couldn't install
anything via a CD or diskette, and couldn't save anything to their C drive,
only the server's My Dox folder, which I was able to remotely access
(involved something like a tunnel-?) from my office site. (I told him it was
really funny - he had locked down those computers tighter than a virgin nun
wearing a permanent chastity belt, no easy task at a topless club! LOL)
 
J

Juerg Reimann

Windows XP Pro, 2002, SP2

Boss had his techie come in last week to track down a virus or something
that had been causing problems when web browsing, getting worse over a
couple
months, when it became obvious it was caused by *something*. He took off
the
Norton AV he had installed back when, and replaced with Avast and
CCleaner.

Sometime back in May or June, I went out on the web to look up something
at
the company's bank website, and about half a dozen pop-ups came up very
quickly, including one that showed something was downloading something.
Couldn't close them, and more just kept opening. Ctrl+Alt+Del wouldn't
work,
so had to just turn off the computer. When I re-booted, set the IE
blockers
to as high as they would go, but over the next few weeks, going on the web
just deteriorated to a hopeless problem. Had my techie friend download
Mozilla's Foxfire, as he put it on my home computer and everything runs
great. At work, tho, Foxfire had as bad a problem as IE, and sometimes
would
freeze up everything to the point I would just have to restart.
Eventually,
told my boss either his techie or mine would have to do something, because
by
mid-July, it was obvious it would only keep deteriorating, and I was
beginning to worry about the safety and privacy of my daily work
(QuickBooks,
Excel, Word, etc.)

The one problem I need help with, started a week or so before the boss'
techie came in, the other right after, but not sure if it is even related
to
anything he did.

Problem 1: Everytime I start the computer, it now stops at that "choose
administrator or user" window, where it did not do that before. It only
shows 'user'. I did not ask it to do this; just want it to go straight to
the desktop. I am the only user, but now worry about what/why switched it
over to doing that.

Problem 2: About every other time I start the computer, when it does get
to
the desktop, it auto-opens Windows Explorer, specifically to the My
Documents
window. Didn't ask it to do that either. There is NOTHING in ANY of my
Startup folders; anytime I add a program, I double check ALL the startup
sub-folders under the "Documents and Settings" folder. There is nothing
there, much less any shortcut to the My Documents folder. Plain weird.

Now, there is a little yellow shield in my icon tray that wants me to
re-start for something, and I obviously don't want to do that, especially
since its message box, with the "Restart now" and "Restart later" buttons,
fails to identify (in its title bar) the program that is demanding I
restart,
just says "Automatic Updates", but no one has set anything to
automatically
update. Anytime I open Windows Explorer, that message box pops up, so now
it's worrying me, too.

Any ideas? While the boss' techie was here, told him about Prob #1, and
he
said that was a simple re-set, but he was going to have the computer
running
a system check for awhile, and to call him and he would walk me through
it.
But now with the auto-opening of My Dox, I feel *something* may still be
out
there, doing whatever the heck it wants. His virus checker found a few
things, but there is this odd little DLL file it finds every couple of
days,
back in the same place it found it before, and though I tell it to remove
it,
in a couple days, it's back again. Meaning something is still on my
computer, putting it back there, and the techie's programs didn't find the
mother program that keeps laying this freakin' egg.

Obviously, I no longer have much faith in the boss' techie, even if the
guy
does make his living doing this (self-employed, 1-man op, but he makes a
good
living at it). My techie doesn't quite make a living with the odd-jobs he
picks up, but when I have him fix something, it doesn't pop up again.
However, don't want to get in a fuss with the boss over the techie he's
used
for years, just want to stop the stuff that is happening. Besides, my
boss
barely understands computers, and rather than think his techie didn't know
what to do, he would presume the virus was one of those unfixable problems
you hear about, and I would have to suffer through yet another HD wipe-out
&
total reinstall. They did one of those in Apr 2005, right before I
started,
and then we had to do it again in Sep, so no, I don't put a lot of faith
in
what that techie can do.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Am hoping the Probs 1 & 2 are
simple
to fix; will deal with the techie issue with my boss later (unless my
computer just gives up the ghost because of it).

Wow! You should think about writing a book ;-), ok seriously:

Your boss' techie did nothing wrong, except that he did not explain to you
what he has changed. Ask whatever techie is making changes to your system
that he explains to you what consequences this will have for you. Using
Avast over Norton is in fact a wise decision!

Concerning your problem #1, it's perfectly right that you must log in to
your computer, even if you are the only user. A computer without a passwort
is a potential risk, not only because somebody could break in at the place
where your computer stands, but also through the internet. Unless you have
really tight network security, but even then, a computer password is a must.

Concerning your problem #2, you obviously have been able to fix that
yourself. But that brings me to a other very important point: NEVER EVER
install something from the internet or open a document UNLESS you're
absolutely sure what you do and fully understand the consequences! The .reg
file you applied from this Kelly's web site could also have rendered your
system completely disfunctional. It's no wonder that your system's full of
viruses. A virus can only enter your system if it is malconfigured (->
firewall!), if you actively install or open something that is infected or if
you don't update your system regularly (that's what the yellow shield is
about). The little yellow shield in your icon tray is perfectly right and
you should do those updates. This is the auto update function from XP's
Service Pack 2 and your system is on a potential risk if you don't apply
those updates.

Concerning your "odd little DLL file it finds every couple of days", it's
extremely important to know the name of it. Write it down! Also Avast should
give you an option to remove this file during a reboot. Choose this option
and do a full system scan during boot time, if you can. If Avast finds
anything during this scan, move it to the chest. In this way the infected
files will still be available in case they are important. If Avast then
still is unable to do something against this DLL, start a web research about
it. Just enter it into Google, you most certainly find descriptions about
the issue.

Juerg
 
G

Guest

Juerg,

Yeah, I know it was long, but wasn't sure which detail was important.

That techie never explains anything, and he doesn't listen well. He lost
several files during that wipe-out/re-install last Sep. He will try a couple
things, then just proclaim it needs a wipe-out/re-install, and since my boss
doesn't know much about computers, he believes him - figures it's those
viruses' fault, you just have to do this every once in a while.

Boss doesn't want passwords. Won't put them on his other company's
computers. I have a few on some of my documents, etc., but he doesn't want
one on the start-up stuff. If I can get my techie in here, and get these
things done up like I want them, it may prove to him we don't have to
constantly PAY FOR a wipe-out/re-install every 6 months or so, and that maybe
my techie does know a thing or two.

The Kelly reference was something I found on MS Newsgroups AFTER I posted -
so it's obviously not the cause of ANY problems. And, no, I don't normally
install from the internet, or let anyone else install stuff (except stuff
like Firefox or Avast), but the references to using the Kelly website are not
new to MS Newsgroups, so it's not like I'm googling for fixes. I have NEVER
had my home computer catch a virus, because I do NOT download things,
willy-nilly. I really do know what I am doing.

That little yellow shield in the icon tray can be mimicked by ANYBODY, son,
an icon is just an icon, so I still don't know what program is up to
something.

Yes, I know the name of the dll file. I have had Avast REMOVE it SEVERAL
times. BUT, since Avast OBVIOUSLY hasn't found the mama program, the egg
keeps coming back. As I said.

And, yes, I googled the file name (FWVJILW.dll); IT DID NOT FIND ANYTHING.

As I explained in one of my follow-ups, I think I have the best idea, to
just re-set what a 'user' can/cannot do, setting up the 'admin' logon to be
able to do everything, and then just use the 'user' logon 98% of the time, so
nothing can download itself again, which is where all this mess started.
 
J

Juerg Reimann

Juerg,

Yeah, I know it was long, but wasn't sure which detail was important.

That techie never explains anything, and he doesn't listen well. He lost
several files during that wipe-out/re-install last Sep. He will try a
couple
things, then just proclaim it needs a wipe-out/re-install, and since my
boss
doesn't know much about computers, he believes him - figures it's those
viruses' fault, you just have to do this every once in a while.

Boss doesn't want passwords. Won't put them on his other company's
computers. I have a few on some of my documents, etc., but he doesn't
want
one on the start-up stuff. If I can get my techie in here, and get these
things done up like I want them, it may prove to him we don't have to
constantly PAY FOR a wipe-out/re-install every 6 months or so, and that
maybe
my techie does know a thing or two.

The Kelly reference was something I found on MS Newsgroups AFTER I
posted -
so it's obviously not the cause of ANY problems. And, no, I don't
normally
install from the internet, or let anyone else install stuff (except stuff
like Firefox or Avast), but the references to using the Kelly website are
not
new to MS Newsgroups, so it's not like I'm googling for fixes. I have
NEVER
had my home computer catch a virus, because I do NOT download things,
willy-nilly. I really do know what I am doing.

That little yellow shield in the icon tray can be mimicked by ANYBODY,
son,
an icon is just an icon, so I still don't know what program is up to
something.

Yes, I know the name of the dll file. I have had Avast REMOVE it SEVERAL
times. BUT, since Avast OBVIOUSLY hasn't found the mama program, the egg
keeps coming back. As I said.

And, yes, I googled the file name (FWVJILW.dll); IT DID NOT FIND ANYTHING.

As I explained in one of my follow-ups, I think I have the best idea, to
just re-set what a 'user' can/cannot do, setting up the 'admin' logon to
be
able to do everything, and then just use the 'user' logon 98% of the time,
so
nothing can download itself again, which is where all this mess started.

Hmm, it's rather strange that Avast knows the DLL but there's apparently
nothing on Google to find...

Installing Windows from scratch every 6 months is definitely not the
solution. Doing it one time but correct, with a good network firewall and
some restrictions for the user would do the trick. Maybe it's really time to
fix the techie...

Juerg
 

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