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Open the case, remove the hard drive and use a 16 pound
hammer. Or boot the computer with the XP CD and begin a
clean install, delete the partition.

A DOS boot disk with FDISK can do the same thing.


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message | How do I deactivate windows XP from my computer
 
There is no deactivation.
If you are wanting to move retail Windows XP to another computer,
simply remove it from the first.

If Windows XP is OEM, transferring may not be possible since OEM is
normally permanently tied to the original computer regardless the
condition of original computer.
 
Jupiter Jones said:
There is no deactivation.
If you are wanting to move retail Windows XP to another computer,
simply remove it from the first.

If Windows XP is OEM, transferring may not be possible since OEM is
normally permanently tied to the original computer regardless the
condition of original computer.

how about a version of 'XP upgrade'?
I'd have to install a standalone ver. of win98 or winME or whatever first
[on the new mobo]...right?
What a pain.
I just want to trade over my 'rightful' purchased use of XP to my new mobo.
But it would be nice to save many months of info on my old hard disk as
well. I'm putting this off just because I know it will be one El Grande
headache.

Never used to be like this...I feel like Microsoft is in the house, haunting
me in my private usage of things already purchased, freely, legally, like I
really don't own the darn thing, they looking over my shoulder at all times.
I feel like I bought something that has a 'chain' attached to it...and
'clipped' to my leg as an 'iron ball'. My whole perception of Microsoft has
changed...and now I hope every greedy sumabitch working for that company,
the 2000 millionaires and all, are made to stuff greenbacks down their
throats for all eternity once they reach their place in hell. Hehe...maybe
I need an 'attitude adjustment'? Ya think?

GREED. Not a good thingy.
 
The upgrade version has exactly the same requirements as the full
version.
You can install as many times as you want.
Upgrading the motherboard makes no difference as long as Windows is
retail.
With a motherboard change a Repair Installation is usually required.
The need for a Repair Installation has nothing to do with activation,
it is required to properly detect the new hardware.

If the upgrade is retail, there is no need to install the previous OS.
Although if the OS is OEM you may need to install it first.
Some OEMs (not Microsoft) set their restore CDs in such a way that the
necessary files can not be located on the CD, it must be installed to
be used for upgrade.

You seem to have picked a little of the ideas passed by Microsoft
haters that ignore all the facts.
 
Jupiter Jones said:
The upgrade version has exactly the same requirements as the full
version.
You can install as many times as you want.
Upgrading the motherboard makes no difference as long as Windows is
retail.
With a motherboard change a Repair Installation is usually required.
The need for a Repair Installation has nothing to do with activation,
it is required to properly detect the new hardware.

If the upgrade is retail, there is no need to install the previous OS.
Although if the OS is OEM you may need to install it first.
Some OEMs (not Microsoft) set their restore CDs in such a way that the
necessary files can not be located on the CD, it must be installed to
be used for upgrade.

You seem to have picked a little of the ideas passed by Microsoft
haters that ignore all the facts.


Well, I do appreciate your help though. :)

See, I thought 'activation' logged mobo ID with the software ID somewhere in
Gate's 'crimestoppers internet database' or whatever. Like DNA residuals, I
could not go on with my dastardly 'crimes against humanity' without leaving
'evidence' where he could 'hunt me down' like a rat in a sewer hole.

All I want to do is transfer over to a new mobo...but here's another
conundrum. If I use my retail copy of XPupgrade to install the new
mobo...the easy way would be to 'temporarily' connect to the LAN I have and
transfer all 'old datafiles' over from the old....but noooo. See, the
instant I've loaded up the 'new', the old is no longer useable...right? XP
makes things very problematic for ME and my lifestyle, which is very simple.
Ultimately, I want to reformat the old hard drive...but I need to
temporarily have them both operating until all data is safe.

1)will XP tolerate two versions of itself (same ID) on two systems
'temporarily' while I transfer files?
2)how do I make an 'image copy' of my old hard disk if the first option is
not an option?
[I have about 30gigs on another lan machine where I might make an image...I
think anyway]. But that's XP too [no, another retail upgrade, not the same
ID as first version]; will it robocop me in some way too?

I know all this is easy for veterans, but XP's copy protection is just a
headache for me. I'm not a thief.
I really do feel like Microsoft is in the 'room' with me, watching over my
back...they are invading my privacy.
 
While not allowed on 2 computers simultaneously, Windows has no way of
knowing.
If you are required to call for activation, just give the facts and
there should be no problem.

As far as imaging, you need a 3rd party application such as:
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/

It is all really easier than you are making it to be.
 
Ghost was priced at $150+ if I'm not mistaken. See, it's all about bleeding
turnips...namely ME. It's much harder than I'm making it out to be...for
me. You guys know that the next thing will be 'subscriptions' to keep the
latest OS activation on a yearly basis, like the Virus companies are now
doing. I used to defend Microsoft...thought they were getting a bad rap in
these anti-trust lawsuits. But then they came out with XP and what I see as
gestapo-like tactics, peering over peoples shoulders, looking into their
very homes [technically] like that new-world robocop I mentioned before.
The world, led by moguls like the 2000 plus millionaires with MS, bodes ill
for the little guy...the home user is now being held to 'corporate'
accountability. Computers used to be a hobby...fun...but now, greed once
again stifles human existence [except for those with the bucks of course].
Gates is now no better than the street drug pusher...always upping the ante
as the addiction sinks in more and more. We are being herded like cows
now...

In spite of this venom I carry for the moguls of the PC corporate world
these days, I do appreciate any help offered here. I'll retire from my
flaming now...but it's not right what they do. I feel this to my bones. If
Linux doesn't surge in popularity due to Gate's horrible policies, I'll be
shocked. EVen if the product itself is impeccible [and XP is a great
improvement functionally in many ways...just not this tracking crap], if the
company itself is 'hated' by the population, it can still be hurt. Most I
know 'want' to go to Linux, but the world still revolves around Microsoft...

Jupiter Jones said:
While not allowed on 2 computers simultaneously, Windows has no way of
knowing.
If you are required to call for activation, just give the facts and
there should be no problem.

As far as imaging, you need a 3rd party application such as:
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/

It is all really easier than you are making it to be.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


tooly said:
Well, I do appreciate your help though. :)

See, I thought 'activation' logged mobo ID with the software ID somewhere in
Gate's 'crimestoppers internet database' or whatever. Like DNA residuals, I
could not go on with my dastardly 'crimes against humanity' without leaving
'evidence' where he could 'hunt me down' like a rat in a sewer hole.

All I want to do is transfer over to a new mobo...but here's another
conundrum. If I use my retail copy of XPupgrade to install the new
mobo...the easy way would be to 'temporarily' connect to the LAN I have and
transfer all 'old datafiles' over from the old....but noooo. See, the
instant I've loaded up the 'new', the old is no longer useable...right? XP
makes things very problematic for ME and my lifestyle, which is very simple.
Ultimately, I want to reformat the old hard drive...but I need to
temporarily have them both operating until all data is safe.

1)will XP tolerate two versions of itself (same ID) on two systems
'temporarily' while I transfer files?
2)how do I make an 'image copy' of my old hard disk if the first option is
not an option?
[I have about 30gigs on another lan machine where I might make an image...I
think anyway]. But that's XP too [no, another retail upgrade, not the same
ID as first version]; will it robocop me in some way too?

I know all this is easy for veterans, but XP's copy protection is just a
headache for me. I'm not a thief.
I really do feel like Microsoft is in the 'room' with me, watching over my
back...they are invading my privacy.
 
While you are throwing blame, you should pass some to the pirates,
both casual and deliberate.
Without the pirates, WPA most likely would not exist.
Microsoft has created WPA to help protect its own interests form those
thieves.


Much of the rest of your rant is based more on paranoia and fiction
mostly spread by the ignorant and Microsoft haters.
It is difficult to tell what you believe is serious or fantasy.
Hopefully you do not believe in "new-world robocop" as well.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


tooly said:
Ghost was priced at $150+ if I'm not mistaken. See, it's all about bleeding
turnips...namely ME. It's much harder than I'm making it out to be...for
me. You guys know that the next thing will be 'subscriptions' to keep the
latest OS activation on a yearly basis, like the Virus companies are now
doing. I used to defend Microsoft...thought they were getting a bad rap in
these anti-trust lawsuits. But then they came out with XP and what I see as
gestapo-like tactics, peering over peoples shoulders, looking into their
very homes [technically] like that new-world robocop I mentioned before.
The world, led by moguls like the 2000 plus millionaires with MS, bodes ill
for the little guy...the home user is now being held to 'corporate'
accountability. Computers used to be a hobby...fun...but now, greed once
again stifles human existence [except for those with the bucks of course].
Gates is now no better than the street drug pusher...always upping the ante
as the addiction sinks in more and more. We are being herded like cows
now...

In spite of this venom I carry for the moguls of the PC corporate world
these days, I do appreciate any help offered here. I'll retire from my
flaming now...but it's not right what they do. I feel this to my bones. If
Linux doesn't surge in popularity due to Gate's horrible policies, I'll be
shocked. EVen if the product itself is impeccible [and XP is a great
improvement functionally in many ways...just not this tracking crap], if the
company itself is 'hated' by the population, it can still be hurt. Most I
know 'want' to go to Linux, but the world still revolves around Microsoft...

Jupiter Jones said:
While not allowed on 2 computers simultaneously, Windows has no way of
knowing.
If you are required to call for activation, just give the facts and
there should be no problem.

As far as imaging, you need a 3rd party application such as:
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/

It is all really easier than you are making it to be.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


tooly said:
Well, I do appreciate your help though. :)

See, I thought 'activation' logged mobo ID with the software ID somewhere in
Gate's 'crimestoppers internet database' or whatever. Like DNA residuals, I
could not go on with my dastardly 'crimes against humanity'
without
leaving
'evidence' where he could 'hunt me down' like a rat in a sewer hole.

All I want to do is transfer over to a new mobo...but here's another
conundrum. If I use my retail copy of XPupgrade to install the new
mobo...the easy way would be to 'temporarily' connect to the LAN
I
have and
transfer all 'old datafiles' over from the old....but noooo.
See,
the
instant I've loaded up the 'new', the old is no longer useable...right? XP
makes things very problematic for ME and my lifestyle, which is
very
simple.
Ultimately, I want to reformat the old hard drive...but I need to
temporarily have them both operating until all data is safe.

1)will XP tolerate two versions of itself (same ID) on two systems
'temporarily' while I transfer files?
2)how do I make an 'image copy' of my old hard disk if the first option is
not an option?
[I have about 30gigs on another lan machine where I might make
an
image...I
think anyway]. But that's XP too [no, another retail upgrade,
not
the same
ID as first version]; will it robocop me in some way too?

I know all this is easy for veterans, but XP's copy protection
is
just a
headache for me. I'm not a thief.
I really do feel like Microsoft is in the 'room' with me,
watching
over my
back...they are invading my privacy.
 
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