xp oem

[zeroklk]

My primary hard drive failed which cost me my xp oem and the ability to
recover said oem however what if I were to dl a "leaked" oem and use my
valid product key would this be possible.

I have seen similar post on the subject but answers seemed vague please
can someone help.

 

[MowGreen [MVP]]

That's assuming there isn't another avenue for reinstalling XP.
Were you asked to burn a CD to backup XP but you didn't when you first
booted the system ?
Contact said oem and find out what a replacement copy would cost.
Why become a thief ?


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
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Never Forgotten
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[Mistoffolees]

That's assuming there isn't another avenue for reinstalling XP.
Were you asked to burn a CD to backup XP but you didn't when you first
booted the system ?
Contact said oem and find out what a replacement copy would cost.
Why become a thief ?


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Lame answer to a lame approach at fulfilling a commitment to
provide the purchaser of a Microsoft product with a physical
copy of same. Also an excellent way to enhance profits of the
OEM at $10 per pop. And ever calculated how much profit MS makes
when any single OEM dealer goes out of business, forcing the
user to buy replacement units through retail outlets?

It really should not matter how a matching copy of Windows XP
was obtained, i.e., buy, borrow or steal, since legitimacy has
been determined by a valid product key (or COA) that presumably
accompanied the computer.

 

[Alias]

My primary hard drive failed which cost me my xp oem and the ability to
recover said oem however what if I were to dl a "leaked" oem and use my
valid product key would this be possible.

Depends on what kind of OEM you had. If it was an OEM preinstalled with
the computer by the likes of HP or Dell, you will need an identical OEM
for it to work with your computer and it doesn't matter where you get it
if you use your original Product Key.

Alias

 

[Rock]

That's assuming there isn't another avenue for reinstalling XP.
Were you asked to burn a CD to backup XP but you didn't when you first
booted the system ?
Contact said oem and find out what a replacement copy would cost.
Why become a thief ?


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Lame answer to a lame approach at fulfilling a commitment to
provide the purchaser of a Microsoft product with a physical
copy of same. Also an excellent way to enhance profits of the
OEM at $10 per pop. And ever calculated how much profit MS makes
when any single OEM dealer goes out of business, forcing the
user to buy replacement units through retail outlets?

It really should not matter how a matching copy of Windows XP
was obtained, i.e., buy, borrow or steal, since legitimacy has
been determined by a valid product key (or COA) that presumably
accompanied the computer.

It's the responsibility of the owner to have the tools needed to
restore/repair the system. Why isn't a recovery means available? That is
the OP's responsibility. They didn't ensure they had the means to do so in
the first place so they need to pay what it takes to rectify what they
didn't do. Downloading a cracked copy is not the answer.

 

[Ron Martell]

Also an excellent way to enhance profits of the
OEM at $10 per pop.

Processing the order; packing, labeling, and shipping; collecting the
payment and processing that through the bank and accounting system
will probably cost the OEM at least $15 so they would actually lose $5
or more on the transaction.

And ever calculated how much profit MS makes
when any single OEM dealer goes out of business, forcing the
user to buy replacement units through retail outlets?

Actually Microsoft has a procedure for providing replacement CDs under
these circumstances at far less than retail prices. See
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=326246

It really should not matter how a matching copy of Windows XP
was obtained, i.e., buy, borrow or steal, since legitimacy has
been determined by a valid product key (or COA) that presumably
accompanied the computer.

The critical component here is "matching" copy. OEMs usually produce
their own CDs with their own branding on them, and in order to match
the product key the CD generally has to be from that same OEM. Not
always, as the smaller OEMs do use the generic OEM CDs provided by
Microsoft.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

 

[Ghostrider]

That's assuming there isn't another avenue for reinstalling XP.
Were you asked to burn a CD to backup XP but you didn't when you
first booted the system ?
Contact said oem and find out what a replacement copy would cost.
Why become a thief ?


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Lame answer to a lame approach at fulfilling a commitment to
provide the purchaser of a Microsoft product with a physical
copy of same. Also an excellent way to enhance profits of the
OEM at $10 per pop. And ever calculated how much profit MS makes
when any single OEM dealer goes out of business, forcing the
user to buy replacement units through retail outlets?

It really should not matter how a matching copy of Windows XP
was obtained, i.e., buy, borrow or steal, since legitimacy has
been determined by a valid product key (or COA) that presumably
accompanied the computer.

It's the responsibility of the owner to have the tools needed to
restore/repair the system. Why isn't a recovery means available? That
is the OP's responsibility. They didn't ensure they had the means to do
so in the first place so they need to pay what it takes to rectify what
they didn't do. Downloading a cracked copy is not the answer.

I think the meaning of "lame" refers to just this point. Yes, it
is the responsibility of the owner to have the tools needed to
restore/repair the system. Of course, this implies also having
the tools or knowing how/where to get the tools and to actually
execute it in order to complete the cycle. IMO, the OEM/seller
had failed to fulfil its part of the Microsoft obligation in this
respect. And all the OP wanted was a working version of XP that
is suited for the computer and will work with the legitimate PK.
We need to go back to including the Windows XP cdrom, even if it
means adding $15 ot $20 to the selling price.

 

[Alias]

MowGreen [MVP] wrote:

That's assuming there isn't another avenue for reinstalling XP.
Were you asked to burn a CD to backup XP but you didn't when you
first booted the system ?
Contact said oem and find out what a replacement copy would cost.
Why become a thief ?


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


Lame answer to a lame approach at fulfilling a commitment to
provide the purchaser of a Microsoft product with a physical
copy of same. Also an excellent way to enhance profits of the
OEM at $10 per pop. And ever calculated how much profit MS makes
when any single OEM dealer goes out of business, forcing the
user to buy replacement units through retail outlets?

It really should not matter how a matching copy of Windows XP
was obtained, i.e., buy, borrow or steal, since legitimacy has
been determined by a valid product key (or COA) that presumably
accompanied the computer.

It's the responsibility of the owner to have the tools needed to
restore/repair the system. Why isn't a recovery means available?
That is the OP's responsibility. They didn't ensure they had the
means to do so in the first place so they need to pay what it takes to
rectify what they didn't do. Downloading a cracked copy is not the
answer.

I think the meaning of "lame" refers to just this point. Yes, it
is the responsibility of the owner to have the tools needed to
restore/repair the system. Of course, this implies also having
the tools or knowing how/where to get the tools and to actually
execute it in order to complete the cycle. IMO, the OEM/seller
had failed to fulfil its part of the Microsoft obligation in this
respect. And all the OP wanted was a working version of XP that
is suited for the computer and will work with the legitimate PK.
We need to go back to including the Windows XP cdrom, even if it
means adding $15 ot $20 to the selling price.

Won't happen because the real money that Dell, HP, etc. make is from
companies like Semantec paying them to put free trials on the machines,
not from selling hardware with Windows. The other reason it won't happen
is that your average customer doesn't know what's happening when they
buy a computer and neglect to ask for a CD for Windows and another for
drivers.

Alias

 

[GHalleck]

MowGreen [MVP] wrote:

That's assuming there isn't another avenue for reinstalling XP.
Were you asked to burn a CD to backup XP but you didn't when you
first booted the system ?
Contact said oem and find out what a replacement copy would cost.
Why become a thief ?


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


Lame answer to a lame approach at fulfilling a commitment to
provide the purchaser of a Microsoft product with a physical
copy of same. Also an excellent way to enhance profits of the
OEM at $10 per pop. And ever calculated how much profit MS makes
when any single OEM dealer goes out of business, forcing the
user to buy replacement units through retail outlets?

It really should not matter how a matching copy of Windows XP
was obtained, i.e., buy, borrow or steal, since legitimacy has
been determined by a valid product key (or COA) that presumably
accompanied the computer.




It's the responsibility of the owner to have the tools needed to
restore/repair the system. Why isn't a recovery means available?
That is the OP's responsibility. They didn't ensure they had the
means to do so in the first place so they need to pay what it takes
to rectify what they didn't do. Downloading a cracked copy is not
the answer.

I think the meaning of "lame" refers to just this point. Yes, it
is the responsibility of the owner to have the tools needed to
restore/repair the system. Of course, this implies also having
the tools or knowing how/where to get the tools and to actually
execute it in order to complete the cycle. IMO, the OEM/seller
had failed to fulfil its part of the Microsoft obligation in this
respect. And all the OP wanted was a working version of XP that
is suited for the computer and will work with the legitimate PK.
We need to go back to including the Windows XP cdrom, even if it
means adding $15 ot $20 to the selling price.

Won't happen because the real money that Dell, HP, etc. make is from
companies like Semantec paying them to put free trials on the machines,
not from selling hardware with Windows. The other reason it won't happen
is that your average customer doesn't know what's happening when they
buy a computer and neglect to ask for a CD for Windows and another for
drivers.

Alias

Well...in this case, just add $15 or $25 to the price and put
the Windows XP cdrom in the plastic utilities bag, as was done
in the past. The customer would never know the difference. And
in the meantime, the OEM would also continue to get royalty
payments from the trialware being distributed.

 

[Alias]

Rock wrote:



MowGreen [MVP] wrote:

That's assuming there isn't another avenue for reinstalling XP.
Were you asked to burn a CD to backup XP but you didn't when you
first booted the system ?
Contact said oem and find out what a replacement copy would cost.
Why become a thief ?


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


Lame answer to a lame approach at fulfilling a commitment to
provide the purchaser of a Microsoft product with a physical
copy of same. Also an excellent way to enhance profits of the
OEM at $10 per pop. And ever calculated how much profit MS makes
when any single OEM dealer goes out of business, forcing the
user to buy replacement units through retail outlets?

It really should not matter how a matching copy of Windows XP
was obtained, i.e., buy, borrow or steal, since legitimacy has
been determined by a valid product key (or COA) that presumably
accompanied the computer.




It's the responsibility of the owner to have the tools needed to
restore/repair the system. Why isn't a recovery means available?
That is the OP's responsibility. They didn't ensure they had the
means to do so in the first place so they need to pay what it takes
to rectify what they didn't do. Downloading a cracked copy is not
the answer.


I think the meaning of "lame" refers to just this point. Yes, it
is the responsibility of the owner to have the tools needed to
restore/repair the system. Of course, this implies also having
the tools or knowing how/where to get the tools and to actually
execute it in order to complete the cycle. IMO, the OEM/seller
had failed to fulfil its part of the Microsoft obligation in this
respect. And all the OP wanted was a working version of XP that
is suited for the computer and will work with the legitimate PK.
We need to go back to including the Windows XP cdrom, even if it
means adding $15 ot $20 to the selling price.

Won't happen because the real money that Dell, HP, etc. make is from
companies like Semantec paying them to put free trials on the
machines, not from selling hardware with Windows. The other reason it
won't happen is that your average customer doesn't know what's
happening when they buy a computer and neglect to ask for a CD for
Windows and another for drivers.

Alias

Well...in this case, just add $15 or $25 to the price and put
the Windows XP cdrom in the plastic utilities bag, as was done
in the past. The customer would never know the difference. And
in the meantime, the OEM would also continue to get royalty
payments from the trialware being distributed.

You're assuming, incorrectly, that these companies care about their
customers.

Alias

 

[Rock]

MowGreen [MVP] wrote:

That's assuming there isn't another avenue for reinstalling XP.
Were you asked to burn a CD to backup XP but you didn't when you first
booted the system ?
Contact said oem and find out what a replacement copy would cost.
Why become a thief ?


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


Lame answer to a lame approach at fulfilling a commitment to
provide the purchaser of a Microsoft product with a physical
copy of same. Also an excellent way to enhance profits of the
OEM at $10 per pop. And ever calculated how much profit MS makes
when any single OEM dealer goes out of business, forcing the
user to buy replacement units through retail outlets?

It really should not matter how a matching copy of Windows XP
was obtained, i.e., buy, borrow or steal, since legitimacy has
been determined by a valid product key (or COA) that presumably
accompanied the computer.

It's the responsibility of the owner to have the tools needed to
restore/repair the system. Why isn't a recovery means available? That
is the OP's responsibility. They didn't ensure they had the means to do
so in the first place so they need to pay what it takes to rectify what
they didn't do. Downloading a cracked copy is not the answer.

I think the meaning of "lame" refers to just this point. Yes, it
is the responsibility of the owner to have the tools needed to
restore/repair the system. Of course, this implies also having
the tools or knowing how/where to get the tools and to actually
execute it in order to complete the cycle. IMO, the OEM/seller
had failed to fulfil its part of the Microsoft obligation in this
respect. And all the OP wanted was a working version of XP that
is suited for the computer and will work with the legitimate PK.
We need to go back to including the Windows XP cdrom, even if it
means adding $15 ot $20 to the selling price.

I heartily agree with the last sentence. One should always have the
installation CD.