XP Home License

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I had XP home on my stand alone PC which was activated. I then repalaced this
with a full version of XP Pro not an upgrade. Can I use the original XP Home
on another PC and if I do will it acivate without problems.
 
colinlam said:
I had XP home on my stand alone PC which was activated. I then
repalaced this with a full version of XP Pro not an upgrade. Can I
use the original XP Home on another PC and if I do will it acivate
without problems.
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What was the version type for the XP Home Edition?
OEM? Retail?
(Did it come pre-installed on the computer in question?)
 
If the original XP Home was a full version, yes. If it was an OEM version
supplied with the computer, no.

-Frank
 
It came installed on a computer I had built and I've just had a look and it
says "For distribution with a new PC only". I suppose that answers my
question offically but will it activate if I use it again
 
Hi, the sticker says "OEM Software" but I have a proper Microsoft disc and I
have used it to install a system on a virtual PC. I thinking of upgrading a
friend's son's PC which does not have internet so it will have to be
activated over the phone. I want to get this right as his Dad would give me
grief if it all went wrong and he was left with no system. He is only eight
and I thought it would be good to get him using XP.
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Frankster said:
If the original XP Home was a full version, yes. If it was an OEM version
supplied with the computer, no.

-Frank
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OEM cannot be used for an "upgrade" of anything. That is programmatically
enforced during installation. Also, the license is only valid on the
original hardware.

-Frank

colinlam said:
Hi, the sticker says "OEM Software" but I have a proper Microsoft disc and
I
have used it to install a system on a virtual PC. I thinking of upgrading
a
friend's son's PC which does not have internet so it will have to be
activated over the phone. I want to get this right as his Dad would give
me
grief if it all went wrong and he was left with no system. He is only
eight
and I thought it would be good to get him using XP.
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colinlam said:
It came installed on a computer I had built and I've just had a look and it
says "For distribution with a new PC only". I suppose that answers my
question offically but will it activate if I use it again
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Read the EULA. There are several variables at play in this
particular situation, including differences in the wording
of the many EULA's that are in existence. And also whether
or not the original computer was physically designed and
built by you, making you the "system builder". From the
information given by you, the preliminary answer is that
the original license has died with the first machine even
though Windows XP will probably be activated normally in
the new machine.
 
colinlam said:
It came installed on a computer I had built and I've just had a look
and it says "For distribution with a new PC only". I suppose that
answers my question offically but will it activate if I use it again
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If it came from one of the top 20 OEMs then you'll need to do phone
activation, but if you tell them that you installed it on another
computer, they won't activate it.

If it is from a small OEM that used generic OEM media, and it's been
over 120 days since that copy was last activated, the it should activate
over the internet.

This is how activation works in reality, though MS rather you go buy
another license. Bill Gates is always just that one copy of software
away from food stamps, don't ya know! ;-)

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colinlam said:
I had XP home on my stand alone PC which was activated. I then repalaced this
with a full version of XP Pro not an upgrade. Can I use the original XP Home
on another PC and if I do will it acivate without problems.
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Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not legitimately
transferable), yes, you can re-use the WinXP Home license elsewhere. If
it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific
Product Key, the you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet
without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute
phone call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm



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colinlam said:
It came installed on a computer I had built and I've just had a look and it
says "For distribution with a new PC only". I suppose that answers my
question offically but will it activate if I use it again
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It may activate, if it's a generic OEM CD. This, of course, doesn't
make doing so "right."


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colinlam said:
Hi, the sticker says "OEM Software" but I have a proper Microsoft disc and I
have used it to install a system on a virtual PC. I thinking of upgrading a
friend's son's PC which does not have internet so it will have to be
activated over the phone. I want to get this right as his Dad would give me
grief if it all went wrong and he was left with no system. He is only eight
and I thought it would be good to get him using XP.
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And you plan to start off my teaching an 8-year-old that it's OK to steal?


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Frankster said:
OEM cannot be used for an "upgrade" of anything. That is programmatically
enforced during installation. Also, the license is only valid on the
original hardware.

-Frank
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Thanks for all your comments I think I'll leave things as they are. Can
anyone explain what "OEM" stands for and what it means.
 
Bruce said:
And you plan to start off my teaching an 8-year-old that it's OK to
steal?
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Stealing Bruce? Please show the law or court precedent that says that!
Transferring an OEM copy of software to another computer is not a
criminal offense.

At most, and assuming that MS would win the case if they ever chose to
persue the matter, it would be at most the civil offense of breech of
contract and/or the civil offense of copyright infringement.

You do yourself a big disservice by demonstrating your ignorance by
calling what the OP wants to do stealing.

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colinlam said:
Thanks for all your comments I think I'll leave things as they are.
Can anyone explain what "OEM" stands for and what it means.
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Original Equipment Manufacturer.

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Bruce said:
Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not legitimately
transferable
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According to MS, they are tranferable with the computer it was first
installed on.

), yes, you can re-use the WinXP Home license elsewhere.
If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific
Product Key, the you'll most likely be able to activate via the
Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make
a 5 minute phone call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
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kurttrail said:
According to MS, they are tranferable with the computer it was
first installed on.

), yes, you can re-use the WinXP Home license elsewhere.
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Kurt, has it ever been through the courts that these EULAs are even
binding?
 
Hi, the sticker says "OEM Software" but I have a proper Microsoft disc and I
have used it to install a system on a virtual PC. I thinking of upgrading a
friend's son's PC which does not have internet so it will have to be
activated over the phone. I want to get this right as his Dad would give me
grief if it all went wrong and he was left with no system. He is only eight
and I thought it would be good to get him using XP.
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Is that really all that important?

Putting aside the activation thing, what's he running now? I've heard
that XP upgrades can go bad. I don't think you can upgade from W95
at all. Whatever you do, take a BACKUP! And considere a complete
fresh install.
 
Frank said:
Kurt, has it ever been through the courts that these EULAs are even
binding?
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Perhaps somebody should. But the value of the product (and
which defines the amount of damages) typically places any
suit into small claims court. Microsoft could, and probably
very easily, settle out of court by giving the individual
end-user a functional activation code and covering court
costs (possibly in the form of future upgrades, products,
etc.), resulting in a no-harm, no-foul outcome. That is why
organizations like Microsoft have legal departments.
 
Frank said:
Kurt, has it ever been through the courts that these EULAs are even
binding?
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Commercial use terms are binding as long as they don't violate law or
are unconscionable. See ProCD v. Zeidenberg -
http://www.law.emory.edu/7circuit/june96/96-1139.html

But when it comes to the individual's right to fairly use software they
have purchased and software copyright owners trying to EULA away "Fair
Use," has yet to have any legal precedent. So until a software
copyright owner sues an individual for "Fair Use" of software and WINS,
any individual can may follow their own interpretation of "fair use,"
and ignore the FUD of the copyright owner.

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