xp Home cannot fully boot up?

[Guest]

Guess I push it too hard (too full) and now it will not fully boot up.
I can go to Safe mode and when "fully' loaeded, there are only 4 words "safe
mode display at the 4 corners and nothing else, a black screen on this IBM XP
Home labtop.. I can go to task manager and most of the services "status'
blank. Some of them would not allow me to 'start' it giving error 1084(
cannot start in safe mode ). Any clue as to where I can get access to c:
drive and transfer out some ddata. Or is the problem a bit bigger than I
think.Thanks

 

[Harry Ohrn]

How recent is the problem? Have you tried using Last Known Good
configuration? It is listed in the boot menu that is displayed when you
select Safe Mode. Another option might be to try Safe Mode with Command
prompt and from there launch System Restore.
see the instructions here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

 

[Guest]

F8>Safe mode>LKGC>Desktop wall paper only and nothing else not even "start".
I have not try the other option. With this info, is there any other thing I
can try/ Thanks

How recent is the problem? Have you tried using Last Known Good
configuration? It is listed in the boot menu that is displayed when you
select Safe Mode. Another option might be to try Safe Mode with Command
prompt and from there launch System Restore.
see the instructions here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

Guess I push it too hard (too full) and now it will not fully boot up.
I can go to Safe mode and when "fully' loaeded, there are only 4 words
"safe
mode display at the 4 corners and nothing else, a black screen on this IBM
XP
Home labtop.. I can go to task manager and most of the services "status'
blank. Some of them would not allow me to 'start' it giving error 1084(
cannot start in safe mode ). Any clue as to where I can get access to c:
drive and transfer out some ddata. Or is the problem a bit bigger than I
think.Thanks

 

[Guest]

Since there is no recovery cd, it it ok if I use another xp home and try to
do a repair? (Reading through some other postings in this ng, it appears that
with a clean installation/repair it does not work also.
There is no floppy in theis lt and hence cannot try on the other liink

F8>Safe mode>LKGC>Desktop wall paper only and nothing else not even "start".
I have not try the other option. With this info, is there any other thing I
can try/ Thanks

How recent is the problem? Have you tried using Last Known Good
configuration? It is listed in the boot menu that is displayed when you
select Safe Mode. Another option might be to try Safe Mode with Command
prompt and from there launch System Restore.
see the instructions here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

Guess I push it too hard (too full) and now it will not fully boot up.
I can go to Safe mode and when "fully' loaeded, there are only 4 words
"safe
mode display at the 4 corners and nothing else, a black screen on this IBM
XP
Home labtop.. I can go to task manager and most of the services "status'
blank. Some of them would not allow me to 'start' it giving error 1084(
cannot start in safe mode ). Any clue as to where I can get access to c:
drive and transfer out some ddata. Or is the problem a bit bigger than I
think.Thanks

 

[Harry Ohrn]

You can use another CD with your own Product Key (not someone else's key)
providing it is same version as the one installed. For example if the
version installed is an OEM XP Home edition you need a generic OEM XP Home
CD or else your Product Key won't be accepted.

If XP came preinstalled on your computer you should consult the
documentation that came with the system as there maybe a partition on the
drive that you can use for recovery purposes.

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

Since there is no recovery cd, it it ok if I use another xp home and try
to
do a repair? (Reading through some other postings in this ng, it appears
that
with a clean installation/repair it does not work also.
There is no floppy in theis lt and hence cannot try on the other liink

F8>Safe mode>LKGC>Desktop wall paper only and nothing else not even
"start".
I have not try the other option. With this info, is there any other thing
I
can try/ Thanks

How recent is the problem? Have you tried using Last Known Good
configuration? It is listed in the boot menu that is displayed when you
select Safe Mode. Another option might be to try Safe Mode with Command
prompt and from there launch System Restore.
see the instructions here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Guess I push it too hard (too full) and now it will not fully boot
up.
I can go to Safe mode and when "fully' loaeded, there are only 4
words
"safe
mode display at the 4 corners and nothing else, a black screen on
this IBM
XP
Home labtop.. I can go to task manager and most of the services
"status'
blank. Some of them would not allow me to 'start' it giving error
1084(
cannot start in safe mode ). Any clue as to where I can get access to
c:
drive and transfer out some ddata. Or is the problem a bit bigger
than I
think.Thanks

 

[peter]

when you do control/alt/delete do you get the task manager??
peter

F8>Safe mode>LKGC>Desktop wall paper only and nothing else not even
"start".
I have not try the other option. With this info, is there any other thing
I
can try/ Thanks

How recent is the problem? Have you tried using Last Known Good
configuration? It is listed in the boot menu that is displayed when you
select Safe Mode. Another option might be to try Safe Mode with Command
prompt and from there launch System Restore.
see the instructions here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

Guess I push it too hard (too full) and now it will not fully boot up.
I can go to Safe mode and when "fully' loaeded, there are only 4 words
"safe
mode display at the 4 corners and nothing else, a black screen on this
IBM
XP
Home labtop.. I can go to task manager and most of the services
"status'
blank. Some of them would not allow me to 'start' it giving error 1084(
cannot start in safe mode ). Any clue as to where I can get access to
c:
drive and transfer out some ddata. Or is the problem a bit bigger than
I
think.Thanks

 

[Guest]

Safe mODE>ADMINISTRATOR> ALT-Ctlr-Del and it gets to Task Manager

when you do control/alt/delete do you get the task manager??
peter

F8>Safe mode>LKGC>Desktop wall paper only and nothing else not even
"start".
I have not try the other option. With this info, is there any other thing
I
can try/ Thanks

How recent is the problem? Have you tried using Last Known Good
configuration? It is listed in the boot menu that is displayed when you
select Safe Mode. Another option might be to try Safe Mode with Command
prompt and from there launch System Restore.
see the instructions here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Guess I push it too hard (too full) and now it will not fully boot up.
I can go to Safe mode and when "fully' loaeded, there are only 4 words
"safe
mode display at the 4 corners and nothing else, a black screen on this
IBM
XP
Home labtop.. I can go to task manager and most of the services
"status'
blank. Some of them would not allow me to 'start' it giving error 1084(
cannot start in safe mode ). Any clue as to where I can get access to
c:
drive and transfer out some ddata. Or is the problem a bit bigger than
I
think.Thanks

 

[peter]

So from there you should be able to click file/start new task.run
and type in command which should give you a DOS window
then type in.........%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
and follow the prompts
peter

Safe mODE>ADMINISTRATOR> ALT-Ctlr-Del and it gets to Task Manager

when you do control/alt/delete do you get the task manager??
peter

F8>Safe mode>LKGC>Desktop wall paper only and nothing else not even
"start".
I have not try the other option. With this info, is there any other
thing
I
can try/ Thanks

:

How recent is the problem? Have you tried using Last Known Good
configuration? It is listed in the boot menu that is displayed when
you
select Safe Mode. Another option might be to try Safe Mode with
Command
prompt and from there launch System Restore.
see the instructions here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Guess I push it too hard (too full) and now it will not fully boot
up.
I can go to Safe mode and when "fully' loaeded, there are only 4
words
"safe
mode display at the 4 corners and nothing else, a black screen on
this
IBM
XP
Home labtop.. I can go to task manager and most of the services
"status'
blank. Some of them would not allow me to 'start' it giving error
1084(
cannot start in safe mode ). Any clue as to where I can get access
to
c:
drive and transfer out some ddata. Or is the problem a bit bigger
than
I
think.Thanks

 

[Guest]

After typing in the command given, I can get to "system properties" dialogue>
and here what do i do as the System Restore, it does not give me the usual
table where you can choose the date. Please advice, thanks

So from there you should be able to click file/start new task.run
and type in command which should give you a DOS window
then type in.........%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
and follow the prompts
peter

Safe mODE>ADMINISTRATOR> ALT-Ctlr-Del and it gets to Task Manager

when you do control/alt/delete do you get the task manager??
peter
F8>Safe mode>LKGC>Desktop wall paper only and nothing else not even
"start".
I have not try the other option. With this info, is there any other
thing
I
can try/ Thanks

:

How recent is the problem? Have you tried using Last Known Good
configuration? It is listed in the boot menu that is displayed when
you
select Safe Mode. Another option might be to try Safe Mode with
Command
prompt and from there launch System Restore.
see the instructions here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Guess I push it too hard (too full) and now it will not fully boot
up.
I can go to Safe mode and when "fully' loaeded, there are only 4
words
"safe
mode display at the 4 corners and nothing else, a black screen on
this
IBM
XP
Home labtop.. I can go to task manager and most of the services
"status'
blank. Some of them would not allow me to 'start' it giving error
1084(
cannot start in safe mode ). Any clue as to where I can get access
to
c:
drive and transfer out some ddata. Or is the problem a bit bigger
than
I
think.Thanks

 

[Guest]

Sorry, I can see the "NEXT' now as it was block by the previous dialog.but
its still load till my wall paper and nothing happen, (back to Dec 206).
Isthere a way to reach C; drive?

After typing in the command given, I can get to "system properties" dialogue>
and here what do i do as the System Restore, it does not give me the usual
table where you can choose the date. Please advice, thanks

So from there you should be able to click file/start new task.run
and type in command which should give you a DOS window
then type in.........%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
and follow the prompts
peter

Safe mODE>ADMINISTRATOR> ALT-Ctlr-Del and it gets to Task Manager

:

when you do control/alt/delete do you get the task manager??
peter
F8>Safe mode>LKGC>Desktop wall paper only and nothing else not even
"start".
I have not try the other option. With this info, is there any other
thing
I
can try/ Thanks

:

How recent is the problem? Have you tried using Last Known Good
configuration? It is listed in the boot menu that is displayed when
you
select Safe Mode. Another option might be to try Safe Mode with
Command
prompt and from there launch System Restore.
see the instructions here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Guess I push it too hard (too full) and now it will not fully boot
up.
I can go to Safe mode and when "fully' loaeded, there are only 4
words
"safe
mode display at the 4 corners and nothing else, a black screen on
this
IBM
XP
Home labtop.. I can go to task manager and most of the services
"status'
blank. Some of them would not allow me to 'start' it giving error
1084(
cannot start in safe mode ). Any clue as to where I can get access
to
c:
drive and transfer out some ddata. Or is the problem a bit bigger
than
I
think.Thanks

 

[peter]

in the same command window...type in
C:\windows\explorer.exe

this should open the windows explorer and you should see your HD and the
directory structure.
From that command prompt window you could also try the System File
Checker............sfc /scan now
It seems you have lost part of the OS.......so after moving your personal
data off i would suggest a reinstall ot a repair install.

Some research tells me a virus called F-Nimda can cause this.........how is
your anti virus program??
look for a file named bxomebc.exe ..if you find it delete it.......but it
will only stay deleted till you reboot....only a Virus Scan will
quratine/delete it

peter

Sorry, I can see the "NEXT' now as it was block by the previous dialog.but
its still load till my wall paper and nothing happen, (back to Dec 206).
Isthere a way to reach C; drive?

After typing in the command given, I can get to "system properties"
dialogue>
and here what do i do as the System Restore, it does not give me the
usual
table where you can choose the date. Please advice, thanks

So from there you should be able to click file/start new task.run
and type in command which should give you a DOS window
then type in.........%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
and follow the prompts
peter
Safe mODE>ADMINISTRATOR> ALT-Ctlr-Del and it gets to Task Manager

:

when you do control/alt/delete do you get the task manager??
peter
F8>Safe mode>LKGC>Desktop wall paper only and nothing else not
even
"start".
I have not try the other option. With this info, is there any
other
thing
I
can try/ Thanks

:

How recent is the problem? Have you tried using Last Known Good
configuration? It is listed in the boot menu that is displayed
when
you
select Safe Mode. Another option might be to try Safe Mode with
Command
prompt and from there launch System Restore.
see the instructions here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Guess I push it too hard (too full) and now it will not fully
boot
up.
I can go to Safe mode and when "fully' loaeded, there are only
4
words
"safe
mode display at the 4 corners and nothing else, a black screen
on
this
IBM
XP
Home labtop.. I can go to task manager and most of the services
"status'
blank. Some of them would not allow me to 'start' it giving
error
1084(
cannot start in safe mode ). Any clue as to where I can get
access
to
c:
drive and transfer out some ddata. Or is the problem a bit
bigger
than
I
think.Thanks

 

[Guest]

Tried all that you have mentioned and after many hours of scanning as slave,
problem exist and so took the easier way out and do a clean installation.
Many thanks for all your suggestions and time

in the same command window...type in
C:\windows\explorer.exe

this should open the windows explorer and you should see your HD and the
directory structure.
From that command prompt window you could also try the System File
Checker............sfc /scan now
It seems you have lost part of the OS.......so after moving your personal
data off i would suggest a reinstall ot a repair install.

Some research tells me a virus called F-Nimda can cause this.........how is
your anti virus program??
look for a file named bxomebc.exe ..if you find it delete it.......but it
will only stay deleted till you reboot....only a Virus Scan will
quratine/delete it

peter

Sorry, I can see the "NEXT' now as it was block by the previous dialog.but
its still load till my wall paper and nothing happen, (back to Dec 206).
Isthere a way to reach C; drive?

After typing in the command given, I can get to "system properties"
dialogue>
and here what do i do as the System Restore, it does not give me the
usual
table where you can choose the date. Please advice, thanks

:

So from there you should be able to click file/start new task.run
and type in command which should give you a DOS window
then type in.........%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
and follow the prompts
peter
Safe mODE>ADMINISTRATOR> ALT-Ctlr-Del and it gets to Task Manager

:

when you do control/alt/delete do you get the task manager??
peter
F8>Safe mode>LKGC>Desktop wall paper only and nothing else not
even
"start".
I have not try the other option. With this info, is there any
other
thing
I
can try/ Thanks

:

How recent is the problem? Have you tried using Last Known Good
configuration? It is listed in the boot menu that is displayed
when
you
select Safe Mode. Another option might be to try Safe Mode with
Command
prompt and from there launch System Restore.
see the instructions here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Guess I push it too hard (too full) and now it will not fully
boot
up.
I can go to Safe mode and when "fully' loaeded, there are only
4
words
"safe
mode display at the 4 corners and nothing else, a black screen
on
this
IBM
XP
Home labtop.. I can go to task manager and most of the services
"status'
blank. Some of them would not allow me to 'start' it giving
error
1084(
cannot start in safe mode ). Any clue as to where I can get
access
to
c:
drive and transfer out some ddata. Or is the problem a bit
bigger
than
I
think.Thanks