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Wow! So this is what outlook express looks like Had PC 25 mths & could nt & Still Can't Get IE Or Ou
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Gordon
Steven Pasieka said:Nothing
PLEASE write your question in the body of the post and NOT just the subject
as it gets truncated like yours has
Have a look here:
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Pegasus \(MVP\)
Fascinating post!
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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Pegasus (MVP) said:Fascinating post!
And he made it with an Outlook Express that is not fully updated.
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Shenan Stanley
Steve,
I have no idea what you were trying to ask.
Please come back and put the bulk of your post in the message BODY - not
subject line.
I have no idea what you were trying to ask.
Please come back and put the bulk of your post in the message BODY - not
subject line.
R
Rock
Do you actually have a question or something to say? Posting a blank
message with only a subject line doesn't do much good. Here are some links
for you to review on how to make a good newsgroup post.
Making Good Newsgroup Posts
message with only a subject line doesn't do much good. Here are some links
for you to review on how to make a good newsgroup post.
Making Good Newsgroup Posts
T
Toni Cascarino
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.
Can somebody explain to me why do MVPs give their email address in a
public newsgroup but insists on "Don't send mail". Is this supposed to
be a joke or what?
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Pegasus \(MVP\)
Toni Cascarino said:Can somebody explain to me why do MVPs give their email address in a
public newsgroup but insists on "Don't send mail". Is this supposed to
be a joke or what?
Which MVP were you thinking of? Frank gave a web page
address (http://www.fjsmjs.com), not an EMail address. When
I post a reply then I give a fake address. Other MVPs give no
address at all.
F
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Toni Cascarino said:Can somebody explain to me why do MVPs give their email address in a
public newsgroup but insists on "Don't send mail". Is this supposed to
be a joke or what?
No.
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Shenan Stanley
Frank said:Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.
Toni said:Can somebody explain to me why do MVPs give their email address in a
public newsgroup but insists on "Don't send mail". Is this supposed
to be a joke or what?
First - you have grouped hundreds (and more) people into a small box by that
comment.
MVPs are people whose main common factors are a knowledge of some Microsoft
product and a willingness to share that knowledge A LOT in these newsgroups.
Otherwise - they may have nothing else in common.
Therefore - you cannot ask, '... why do MVPs give their email address in a
public newsgroup but insists on "Don't send mail".' and it be valid. Not
all MVPs have valid email addresses that they give. Not all MVPs ask you to
send/not send email (everytime.)
Some have a real email they have set aside to accept all the crud they might
get for having a real email address posted hundreds of times a month on
public worldwide distributed newsgroups that are undoubtedly crawled by a
hundred/thousand different address collecting spam-bots every day. Many
likely have several different email addresses - many of which have never
seen the light of day as far as these newsgroups and even Microsoft is
concerned.
The advice (about not sending email) is generally given (IMHO) so that (1) a
private session will not occur - as that can be very time consuming, (2)
everything said is public, there is no 'he said, she said' and if they
happen to get a point wrong - hopefully someone else will come behind them
and say "Whoa there - not so.." and catch the mistake. It is generally
easier for someone to give you bad advice and not be called on it in the
privacy of email than in the full and overly exposed public eye of these
newsgroups. If I am wrong - I want to know I am wrong and I am sure as the
one taking the advice - so do you.
Remember - MVPs are just plain people with some particular knowledge they do
not mind sharing en masse. They make mistakes and they are merely
volunteering their time. They did not *ask* for the award, it was presented
to them. They are still individuals and most do not have a tie to Microsoft
beyond the title "MVP' and the fact that many support their products every
day (in one form or another.)
T
Toni Cascarino
First - you have grouped hundreds (and more) people into a small box by that
comment.
I didn't want to single out any one particular individual just in case
it was meant to be a joke which some of us may not get it! Jokes are
specific to a particular country or culture and this is the very reason,
british comedies don't make it in the States!
MVPs are people
I never said they are dogs or cats or for that matter anything else. I
have never come across non-humans able to use NGs. Only human animals are able to use these NGs!!
whose main common factors are a knowledge of some Microsoft
product and a willingness to share that knowledge A LOT in these newsgroups.
What has this got to do with supplying or not supplying email address -
the main theme of my original message?
Otherwise - they may have nothing else in common.
You mean otherwise - they have nothing else better to do?
Not all MVPs have valid email addresses that they give. Not all MVPs ask you to
send/not send email (everytime.)
Where did I get this email address from then:
<[email protected]>
Did I just imagine it?
Some have a real email they have set aside to accept all the crud they might
Is this one such email address:
<[email protected]>
If so why the request:
"Don't send mail"
Do spammers heed to such requests? If so then they must have
intelligents bots to harvest potential target emails!!
The advice (about not sending email) is generally given (IMHO) so that (1) a
private session will not occur - as that can be very time consuming, (2)
everything said is public, there is no 'he said, she said' and if they
happen to get a point wrong - hopefully someone else will come behind them
and say "Whoa there - not so.." and catch the mistake. It is generally
easier for someone to give you bad advice and not be called on it in the
privacy of email than in the full and overly exposed public eye of these
newsgroups. If I am wrong - I want to know I am wrong and I am sure as the
one taking the advice - so do you.
In my experience, people who wants to send a message will always do so
and the OP has made it easier by supplying the correct email address!.
We are talking about people who have no better things to do then to
contact any stranger on the web.
Remember - MVPs are just plain people
I would say they are ordinary people who have been elevated by their
peers but their knowledge is limited to copying and pasting irrelevant
material. For example, you started talking about their knowledge and
all that nonsense when my question was about: "Can somebody explain to
me why do MVPs give their email address in a public newsgroup but
insists on "Don't send mail". Is this supposed to be a joke or what?"
I hope not all MVPs have "nothing better to do" in life but to spend
time on these NGs. I guess the "title" MVP is just for that - spend
time on these NGs!!
T
Toni Cascarino
Pegasus (MVP) said:Which MVP were you thinking of? Frank gave a web page
address (http://www.fjsmjs.com), not an EMail address.
He gave this email:
<[email protected]>
I did not make this up.
When I post a reply then I give a fake address. Other MVPs give no
address at all.
In that case the above may be an exception to canvass personal thanks,
gifts and bribes.
Have anice one!
S
Shenan Stanley
Toni said:I didn't want to single out any one particular individual just in
case
it was meant to be a joke which some of us may not get it! Jokes
are
specific to a particular country or culture and this is the very
reason,
british comedies don't make it in the States!
I never said they are dogs or cats or for that matter anything
else. I
have never come across non-humans able to use NGs. Only human
animals are able to use these NGs!!
What has this got to do with supplying or not supplying email
address -
the main theme of my original message?
You mean otherwise - they have nothing else better to do?
Where did I get this email address from then:
<[email protected]>
Did I just imagine it?
Is this one such email address:
<[email protected]>
If so why the request:
"Don't send mail"
Do spammers heed to such requests? If so then they must have
intelligents bots to harvest potential target emails!!
In my experience, people who wants to send a message will always do
so
and the OP has made it easier by supplying the correct email
address!.
We are talking about people who have no better things to do then to
contact any stranger on the web.
I would say they are ordinary people who have been elevated by their
peers but their knowledge is limited to copying and pasting
irrelevant
material. For example, you started talking about their knowledge
and
all that nonsense when my question was about: "Can somebody explain
to
me why do MVPs give their email address in a public newsgroup but
insists on "Don't send mail". Is this supposed to be a joke or
what?"
I hope not all MVPs have "nothing better to do" in life but to spend
time on these NGs. I guess the "title" MVP is just for that - spend
time on these NGs!!
You are welcome to your opinion - no matter how warped it is by your own
sense of superiority. ;-)
And British comedies (some) make it quite well in the states.
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Tom Willett
Shenan: Looks like you've stooped to feeding the troll ;-)
Tom
| Toni Cascarino wrote:
| > Shenan Stanley wrote:
| >>
| >
| >> First - you have grouped hundreds (and more) people into a small
| >> box by that comment.
| >
| > I didn't want to single out any one particular individual just in
| > case
| > it was meant to be a joke which some of us may not get it! Jokes
| > are
| > specific to a particular country or culture and this is the very
| > reason,
| > british comedies don't make it in the States!
| >>
| >> MVPs are people
| >
| > I never said they are dogs or cats or for that matter anything
| > else. I
| > have never come across non-humans able to use NGs. Only human
| > animals are able to use these NGs!!
| >
| >> whose main common factors are a knowledge of some Microsoft
| >> product and a willingness to share that knowledge A LOT in these
| >> newsgroups.
| >
| >
| > What has this got to do with supplying or not supplying email
| > address -
| > the main theme of my original message?
| >
| >
| >> Otherwise - they may have nothing else in common.
| >
| > You mean otherwise - they have nothing else better to do?
| >
| >>
| >> Not all MVPs have valid email addresses that they give. Not all
| >> MVPs ask you to send/not send email (everytime.)
| >
| > Where did I get this email address from then:
| > <[email protected]>
| >
| > Did I just imagine it?
| >
| >>
| >> Some have a real email they have set aside to accept all the crud
| >> they might
| >
| > Is this one such email address:
| >
| > <[email protected]>
| >
| > If so why the request:
| >
| > "Don't send mail"
| >
| > Do spammers heed to such requests? If so then they must have
| > intelligents bots to harvest potential target emails!!
| >
| >> The advice (about not sending email) is generally given (IMHO) so
| >> that (1) a private session will not occur - as that can be very
| >> time consuming, (2) everything said is public, there is no 'he
| >> said, she said' and if they
| >> happen to get a point wrong - hopefully someone else will come
| >> behind them
| >> and say "Whoa there - not so.." and catch the mistake. It is
| >> generally
| >> easier for someone to give you bad advice and not be called on it
| >> in the privacy of email than in the full and overly exposed public
| >> eye of these newsgroups. If I am wrong - I want to know I am
| >> wrong and I am sure as the
| >> one taking the advice - so do you.
| >
| > In my experience, people who wants to send a message will always do
| > so
| > and the OP has made it easier by supplying the correct email
| > address!.
| > We are talking about people who have no better things to do then to
| > contact any stranger on the web.
| >
| >>
| >> Remember - MVPs are just plain people
| >
| > I would say they are ordinary people who have been elevated by their
| > peers but their knowledge is limited to copying and pasting
| > irrelevant
| > material. For example, you started talking about their knowledge
| > and
| > all that nonsense when my question was about: "Can somebody explain
| > to
| > me why do MVPs give their email address in a public newsgroup but
| > insists on "Don't send mail". Is this supposed to be a joke or
| > what?"
| >
| > I hope not all MVPs have "nothing better to do" in life but to spend
| > time on these NGs. I guess the "title" MVP is just for that - spend
| > time on these NGs!!
|
| You are welcome to your opinion - no matter how warped it is by your own
| sense of superiority. ;-)
|
| And British comedies (some) make it quite well in the states.
|
| --
| Shenan Stanley
| MS-MVP
| --
| How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
|
|
|
Tom
| Toni Cascarino wrote:
| > Shenan Stanley wrote:
| >>
| >
| >> First - you have grouped hundreds (and more) people into a small
| >> box by that comment.
| >
| > I didn't want to single out any one particular individual just in
| > case
| > it was meant to be a joke which some of us may not get it! Jokes
| > are
| > specific to a particular country or culture and this is the very
| > reason,
| > british comedies don't make it in the States!
| >>
| >> MVPs are people
| >
| > I never said they are dogs or cats or for that matter anything
| > else. I
| > have never come across non-humans able to use NGs. Only human
| > animals are able to use these NGs!!
| >
| >> whose main common factors are a knowledge of some Microsoft
| >> product and a willingness to share that knowledge A LOT in these
| >> newsgroups.
| >
| >
| > What has this got to do with supplying or not supplying email
| > address -
| > the main theme of my original message?
| >
| >
| >> Otherwise - they may have nothing else in common.
| >
| > You mean otherwise - they have nothing else better to do?
| >
| >>
| >> Not all MVPs have valid email addresses that they give. Not all
| >> MVPs ask you to send/not send email (everytime.)
| >
| > Where did I get this email address from then:
| > <[email protected]>
| >
| > Did I just imagine it?
| >
| >>
| >> Some have a real email they have set aside to accept all the crud
| >> they might
| >
| > Is this one such email address:
| >
| > <[email protected]>
| >
| > If so why the request:
| >
| > "Don't send mail"
| >
| > Do spammers heed to such requests? If so then they must have
| > intelligents bots to harvest potential target emails!!
| >
| >> The advice (about not sending email) is generally given (IMHO) so
| >> that (1) a private session will not occur - as that can be very
| >> time consuming, (2) everything said is public, there is no 'he
| >> said, she said' and if they
| >> happen to get a point wrong - hopefully someone else will come
| >> behind them
| >> and say "Whoa there - not so.." and catch the mistake. It is
| >> generally
| >> easier for someone to give you bad advice and not be called on it
| >> in the privacy of email than in the full and overly exposed public
| >> eye of these newsgroups. If I am wrong - I want to know I am
| >> wrong and I am sure as the
| >> one taking the advice - so do you.
| >
| > In my experience, people who wants to send a message will always do
| > so
| > and the OP has made it easier by supplying the correct email
| > address!.
| > We are talking about people who have no better things to do then to
| > contact any stranger on the web.
| >
| >>
| >> Remember - MVPs are just plain people
| >
| > I would say they are ordinary people who have been elevated by their
| > peers but their knowledge is limited to copying and pasting
| > irrelevant
| > material. For example, you started talking about their knowledge
| > and
| > all that nonsense when my question was about: "Can somebody explain
| > to
| > me why do MVPs give their email address in a public newsgroup but
| > insists on "Don't send mail". Is this supposed to be a joke or
| > what?"
| >
| > I hope not all MVPs have "nothing better to do" in life but to spend
| > time on these NGs. I guess the "title" MVP is just for that - spend
| > time on these NGs!!
|
| You are welcome to your opinion - no matter how warped it is by your own
| sense of superiority. ;-)
|
| And British comedies (some) make it quite well in the states.
|
| --
| Shenan Stanley
| MS-MVP
| --
| How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
|
|
|
S
Shenan Stanley
Tom said:Shenan: Looks like you've stooped to feeding the troll ;-)
Sometimes you throw the bread in the pond just to watch the fish come to the
surface...
*grin*
K
Ken Blake, MVP
Toni said:He gave this email:
<[email protected]>
I did not make this up.
In that case the above may be an exception to canvass personal thanks,
gifts and bribes.
Have anice one!
MVPs are not clones of each other. We are all different people. We often
have different likes and dislikes, different opinions and preferences on how
to do things, and even different strengths and weaknesses in particular
areas.
I prefer not to get personal E-mail from newsgroup participants and don't
supply my real address here. Frank apparently doesn't mind. If that's OK
with Frank, it's OK with me--just another example of how we are all
different.