Windows validation failed

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That's impossible. I have downloaded umpteen programs from the Microsoft
site that have required validation. My Windows is the real thing, I am the
only user of my machine and I couldn't tamper with Windows if I wanted to.
How can the product key change between validations??
 
chizzy said:
That's impossible. I have downloaded umpteen programs from the
Microsoft site that have required validation. My Windows is the real
thing, I am the only user of my machine and I couldn't tamper with
Windows if I wanted to. How can the product key change between
validations?
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Actually, it can't w/o your activities. Since no error messages have
been posted, run the "WGADiag2.exe" tool and try again.
http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/diag/Support.aspx?page=support
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012
 
chizzy said:
That's impossible. I have downloaded umpteen programs from the
Microsoft site that have required validation. My Windows is the real
thing, I am the only user of my machine and I couldn't tamper with
Windows if I wanted to. How can the product key change between
validations??
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WGA is extremely flawed. If you need to update your OS, then you should
learn to bypass all of the unnecessary technology MS has placed in
between Windows and patching Windows by using Common Sense Computing.

http://comsense.microscum.com

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Try the following workaround:

The WGA Diagnostic Tool has been updated to
correct a problem experienced by some users.
Please download and execute it from:

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012

After running the tool, please return to Windows Update and try again.

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| That's impossible. I have downloaded umpteen programs from the Microsoft
| site that have required validation. My Windows is the real thing, I am the
| only user of my machine and I couldn't tamper with Windows if I wanted to.
| How can the product key change between validations??
 
WGA is extremely flawed. If you need to update your OS, then you should
learn to bypass all of the unnecessary technology MS has placed in
between Windows and patching Windows by using Common Sense Computing.
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Except that sometimes it catches a pirate - as in today I was working on
a home users machine, they didn't have SP2 yet and needed some of the
updates from it. SP2 complained that it could not install due to a
invalid key..... Come to find out that the person was aware they were
using a pirated copy of XP....
 
Leythos said:
Except that sometimes it catches a pirate - as in today I was working
on a home users machine, they didn't have SP2 yet and needed some of
the updates from it. SP2 complained that it could not install due to a
invalid key..... Come to find out that the person was aware they were
using a pirated copy of XP....
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Throw a hundred darts at a dart board and at least one will hit it!

You don't care about the 90 some odd darts that miss the board entirely
as long as a couple hit the board, but I do. Those 90 some odd misses
are real paying customers! But screw them as long as one of two
non-paying customers get caught!

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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
Carey said:
Try the following workaround:

The WGA Diagnostic Tool has been updated to
correct a problem experienced by some users.
Please download and execute it from:

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012

After running the tool, please return to Windows Update and try again.
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See how flawed WGA really is? MS had to make a special tool to TRY to
fix some of the flaws!

Tell MS to go screw themselves! Did you pay your good hard earned money
to waste your off-time tracking down the bugs in their anti-consumer
techologies?

If you are gonna waste your time, call your state attorney general and
complain how MS is screwing up with their flawed anti-consumer
technologies!

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Kurt Kirsch
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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
Use the telephone (toll free) option for activation. It will give you automated
instructions to follow. At the very end you will be ask if it worked (you don't
really know at that point) answer NO. That gets you a living (almost) person to
talk to. Then you get a chance to verify it properly.

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George (Bindar Dundat©)
http://dundats.mvps.org
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| That's impossible. I have downloaded umpteen programs from the Microsoft
| site that have required validation. My Windows is the real thing, I am the
| only user of my machine and I couldn't tamper with Windows if I wanted to.
| How can the product key change between validations??
|
|
 
Throw a hundred darts at a dart board and at least one will hit it!

You don't care about the 90 some odd darts that miss the board entirely
as long as a couple hit the board, but I do. Those 90 some odd misses
are real paying customers! But screw them as long as one of two
non-paying customers get caught!
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Actually, that's the first I've had fail validation, and it didn't
actually fail validation - it correctly identified a pirated copy of the
OS and called it properly.

So, with more than 1500 seats last year, more than another 200 this
year, This is the first one I've had it reject and it's actually right.

Good job MS, correctly identifying a pirated copy while not causing any
issues with the other 1700 seats we've activated.
 
Leythos said:
Actually, that's the first I've had fail validation, and it didn't
actually fail validation - it correctly identified a pirated copy of
the OS and called it properly.

So, with more than 1500 seats last year, more than another 200 this
year, This is the first one I've had it reject and it's actually
right.

Good job MS, correctly identifying a pirated copy while not causing
any issues with the other 1700 seats we've activated.
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All hail mighty monopoly!

How do you type with your head so far up MS's arse?

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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
George said:
Use the telephone (toll free) option for activation.
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There are MANY countries around the world where the call is NOT toll
free.
It will give
you automated instructions to follow. At the very end you will be
ask if it worked (you don't really know at that point) answer NO.
That gets you a living (almost) person to talk to. Then you get a
chance to verify it properly.
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It sounds as if you are confused. Activation (MPA) and Validation (WGA)
are too different things. As far as I'm aware, there is NO phone option
for validation, other than calling MS pay-for support line.

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Kurt Kirsch
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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
| George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:
|
| > Use the telephone (toll free) option for activation.
|
| There are MANY countries around the world where the call is NOT toll
| free.
|
| > It will give
| > you automated instructions to follow. At the very end you will be
| > ask if it worked (you don't really know at that point) answer NO.
| > That gets you a living (almost) person to talk to. Then you get a
| > chance to verify it properly.
|
| It sounds as if you are confused. Activation (MPA) and Validation (WGA)
| are too different things. As far as I'm aware, there is NO phone option
| for validation, other than calling MS pay-for support line.

You are absolutely correct, that one zipped right past me since i still needed
my morning coffee. Thanks for pointing that out Kurt
Now go take your meds and lay down for a while. The world will look better when
you get up.

|
| --
| Peace!
| Kurt Kirsch
| Self-anointed Moderator
| http://microscum.com
| "It'll soon shake your Windows
| And rattle your walls
| For the times they are a-changin'."
|
|
 
All hail mighty monopoly!

How do you type with your head so far up MS's arse?
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What's wrong, don't like it when you have a real users experience that
indicates your position is wrong and unfounded?

Certainly we have more activations that most of the people that post
here, and never had one that was incorrect to date - never had one that
we had to rebuild the system with, and only a very few that required a
phone call to activate (as we use the same key more than once by
accident, but they still activated it after explained).

Must suck to be so negative all the time and have so many around you not
have your problems.
 
Leythos said:
What's wrong, don't like it when you have a real users experience that
indicates your position is wrong and unfounded?
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You experience proves nothing but your experience. One that has been
proven to be quite disingenuous over time. You still claim that Iraq
had vast stockpiles of WMDs in 2003, when any sane person knows
differently.

So excuse me if I don't place any value in ANYTHING you claim. My
experience with you has taught me that you are totally full of sh*t.
Certainly we have more activations that most of the people that post
here, and never had one that was incorrect to date - never had one
that we had to rebuild the system with, and only a very few that
required a phone call to activate (as we use the same key more than
once by accident, but they still activated it after explained).
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So that invalidates the thousands upon thousands that have had problems
with both WGA & PA? You put way too much credence in your very limited
experience.
Must suck to be so negative all the time and have so many around you
not have your problems.
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ROFL! At least I'm not a sycophantic lapdog like you. That would be a
problem that I would never want to have.

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Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
George said:
You are absolutely correct, that one zipped right past me since i
still needed my morning coffee. Thanks for pointing that out Kurt
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Your welcome.
Now go take your meds and lay down for a while. The world will look
better when you get up.
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LOL! The natural world looks great. Don't need drugs to see beauty in
the natural world. Only the unnatural man-made world requires
drug-usage.

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Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
You experience proves nothing but your experience. One that has been
proven to be quite disingenuous over time.
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Except that you can't disprove my experience with WGA or PA, and you
have no factual information to prove that it's any form of major problem
for the masses - yet it does seem to work to stop the casual pirate as
I've mentioned here in my experience yesterday.
You still claim that Iraq
had vast stockpiles of WMDs in 2003, when any sane person knows
differently.
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And when you've lost your position you try to divert the subject off
track, a typical troll tactic.
So excuse me if I don't place any value in ANYTHING you claim. My
experience with you has taught me that you are totally full of sh*t.
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Yep, again, another typical troll tactic - you can't find any way to
dispute the actual experiences that contradict your position so you
resort to BS.
So that invalidates the thousands upon thousands that have had problems
with both WGA & PA? You put way too much credence in your very limited
experience.


ROFL! At least I'm not a sycophantic lapdog like you. That would be a
problem that I would never want to have.
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And you have nothing to support your position as you've been proven to
be wrong on all accounts.
 
Leythos said:
Except that you can't disprove my experience with WGA or PA, and you
have no factual information to prove that it's any form of major
problem for the masses - yet it does seem to work to stop the casual
pirate as I've mentioned here in my experience yesterday.
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LOL! I don't go around disproving people delusions. As for numbers,
there are literally thousands of posts regarding PA & WGA problems in
various Windows XP newsgroups. And a only a minute fraction of Windows
users even know about these groups, one can extrapulate that there are
thousands upon thousands that have had various PA and WGA problems. Way
to many to justify catching the occasional pirated install.

But you don't care at all about all those people that have had problems.
You care more about inhuman anti-consumer technologies than you do real
people!
And when you've lost your position you try to divert the subject off
track, a typical troll tactic.
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No. Just showing people an example of why I think you are full of it.
Yep, again, another typical troll tactic - you can't find any way to
dispute the actual experiences that contradict your position so you
resort to BS.
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LOL! Whatever! But any thinking person now knows why I don't put any
value in anything you claim, as you aren't disputing that you believe in
imaginary stockpiles of WMDs in Iraq in 2003.
And you have nothing to support your position as you've been proven to
be wrong on all accounts.
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Proven? Your delusional claims are proof?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Kurt Kirsch
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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
It would be nice, just once, if you could prove the WGA or WPA is as big
a problem to legit owners as you imply - based on the posts I've seen
here, it's only a problem to very few that appear to have a legit issue.
 
Leythos said:
It would be nice, just once, if you could prove the WGA or WPA is as
big a problem to legit owners as you imply - based on the posts I've
seen here, it's only a problem to very few that appear to have a
legit issue.
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Very few? We have a WGA post practically every day. And when you think
of the minute proportion of computer users that even use the USENET, let
alone MSNEWS, then you would see that there is indeed a real problem.

Doesn't the fact that MS has a WGA debugging tool speak for itself? But
no, you could care less about real paying customers having problems with
flawed anti-consumer technologies. But that shows what kind of person
you are.

And to me, ONE person having a totally unnecessary problem is one too
many considering how much hard earned money they spent on Windows! But
I'm not heartless, like you!

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Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
Very few? We have a WGA post practically every day. And when you think
of the minute proportion of computer users that even use the USENET, let
alone MSNEWS, then you would see that there is indeed a real problem.

Doesn't the fact that MS has a WGA debugging tool speak for itself? But
no, you could care less about real paying customers having problems with
flawed anti-consumer technologies. But that shows what kind of person
you are.

And to me, ONE person having a totally unnecessary problem is one too
many considering how much hard earned money they spent on Windows! But
I'm not heartless, like you!
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Maybe you need to look closer at why the people are posting, what it is
that caused the problem, rather than assume it was WGA that is the
fault.

Most of the issues I read are because the user has done something that
MS considers a violation of the licensing agreement. Notice I didn't say
ALL, just most of them.

WGA/WPA has worked without fault for the seats we have experience with,
and the only times I've seen WGA or WPA fail was due to the multiple
installation problem during the 120 day period, but a few minutes on the
phone clears that up.

Oh, and cut the BS, every one of those 1500+ licenses was PAID FOR BY A
REAL CUSTOMER and they didn't have any problems, didn't think it was
anti-consumer, didn't even know it was part of the package.
 
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