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I ask this hear first because I get the best information here. If for
some reason my question can best be answered elsewhere please let me
know where to direct it next time..

Why is it most times when I go to the windows update website through my
link on my startup icon on my desktop that when the updates have been
installed i reboot my system and my system works like crap and it looks
like my computer has had a stroke.

I want to update with the patches and such but it messes up my system
 
richk said:
I ask this hear first because I get the best information here. If for
some reason my question can best be answered elsewhere please let me
know where to direct it next time..

Why is it most times when I go to the windows update website through my
link on my startup icon on my desktop that when the updates have been
installed i reboot my system and my system works like crap and it looks
like my computer has had a stroke.

I want to update with the patches and such but it messes up my system
I also use Windows Update, but have never had a problem like this.
Perhaps try asking your question at 24 hour support desk as well.
 
richk said:
I ask this hear first because I get the best information here. If for
some reason my question can best be answered elsewhere please let me
know where to direct it next time..

Why is it most times when I go to the windows update website through my
link on my startup icon on my desktop that when the updates have been
installed i reboot my system and my system works like crap and it looks
like my computer has had a stroke.

I want to update with the patches and such but it messes up my system

Microsoft has newsgroups fow answers to problems like yours,
find the right group here: news://msnews.microsoft.com/

ct
 
richk said:
I ask this hear first because I get the best information here. If for
some reason my question can best be answered elsewhere please let me
know where to direct it next time..

Why is it most times when I go to the windows update website through my
link on my startup icon on my desktop that when the updates have been
installed i reboot my system and my system works like crap and it looks
like my computer has had a stroke.

I want to update with the patches and such but it messes up my system


Either turn off Automatic Update or configure it to alert you when new
updates are available but not to download them or install them without
checking with you. When the yellow icon appears in your taskbar alerting
you that new updates are available, click on them to see which updates
they are. Write them down. Wait a few days or a week. That will give you
a chance to review the Microsoft Windows Update newsgroups to see if
anyone has problems with the new updates. If no one has problems after a
while, go ahead and install the updates.
 
Why is it most times when I go to the windows update website through my
link on my startup icon on my desktop that when the updates have been
installed i reboot my system and my system works like crap and it looks
like my computer has had a stroke.

Because all the updates do is bloat the already bloated system a
little more. Eventually it gets so bloated that you're willing to
shell out big bucks for the next version ... and start the whole thing
all over again.

It can't be that all those $100,000/year (and up) programmers at MS
are incompetent. Can it?
 
Because all the updates do is bloat the already bloated system a
little more. Eventually it gets so bloated that you're willing to
shell out big bucks for the next version ... and start the whole thing
all over again.

It can't be that all those $100,000/year (and up) programmers at MS
are incompetent. Can it?

I'm so glad someone else has figured this out! Praise be to Al Klein!

Only download a fix if it takes care of a problem that is bothering
you. Keep in mind that the "fix" may have new bloating features you
don't want attached to it.
 
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Spacey Spade said:
Because all the updates do is bloat the already bloated system a
little more. Eventually it gets so bloated that you're willing to
shell out big bucks for the next version ... and start the whole thing
all over again.

It can't be that all those $100,000/year (and up) programmers at MS
are incompetent. Can it?

I'm so glad someone else has figured this out! Praise be to Al Klein!

Only download a fix if it takes care of a problem that is bothering
you. Keep in mind that the "fix" may have new bloating features you
don't want attached to it.

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I don't know what planet you guys live on, but Windows update works fine,
thank you. I work in a library with 30 PCs, mostly WinNT and Win2K and eight
WinXPs. Windows update has never been a problem, except last summer when we
didn't do it and a virus whacked us. We have since learned our lesson and
there have been no more problems. We update all the time.

You obviously don't use it yourself so all you have to go on is hearsay.
Shame on you. :-)

Bill T.
 
Bill Turner said:
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Spacey Spade said:
Because all the updates do is bloat the already bloated system a
little more. Eventually it gets so bloated that you're willing to
shell out big bucks for the next version ... and start the whole thing
all over again.

It can't be that all those $100,000/year (and up) programmers at MS
are incompetent. Can it?

I'm so glad someone else has figured this out! Praise be to Al Klein!

Only download a fix if it takes care of a problem that is bothering
you. Keep in mind that the "fix" may have new bloating features you
don't want attached to it.

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I don't know what planet you guys live on, but Windows update works fine,
thank you. I work in a library with 30 PCs, mostly WinNT and Win2K and
eight WinXPs. Windows update has never been a problem, except last summer
when we didn't do it and a virus whacked us. We have since learned our
lesson and there have been no more problems. We update all the time.

You obviously don't use it yourself so all you have to go on is hearsay.
Shame on you. :-)

Bloated opinion most likely Bill ;-)

Any other O.S's that don't update because of hackers releasing NEW stuff I
would'nt install at all.

These people will probably complain PAL is UK and USA is NTSC and poses a
monopoly :-)))
 
Bill Turner said:
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news:[email protected]...
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I don't know what planet you guys live on, but Windows update works fine,
thank you. I work in a library with 30 PCs, mostly WinNT and Win2K and eight
WinXPs. Windows update has never been a problem, except last summer when we
didn't do it and a virus whacked us. We have since learned our lesson and
there have been no more problems. We update all the time.

You obviously don't use it yourself so all you have to go on is hearsay.
Shame on you. :-)

Bill T.

Query: are you talking about SERVERS or stand alone WORKSTATIONS
without servers? Does your reply apply to both or just the former? Does your
response apply to one and only one OS or all? If the latter, which ones? TIA.

Helen
 
I don't know what planet you guys live on

One on which I'v been earning my living designing software since
before Bill Gates wrote Integer Basic.
You obviously don't use it yourself

Of course I do, but I know what's happening. You're content to accept
the hype.

And remember, almost every single update to fix a bug has bugs in it
that need further updates to fix.
 
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Query: are you talking about SERVERS or stand alone WORKSTATIONS
without servers? Does your reply apply to both or just the former? Does
your
response apply to one and only one OS or all? If the latter, which ones?
TIA.

Helen

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They are workstations networked to the main library. Two of the 30 local
computers also act as print servers for the other 28.

Bill, W6WRT
 
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Of course I do, but I know what's happening. You're content to accept
the hype.

And remember, almost every single update to fix a bug has bugs in it
that need further updates to fix.
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"Accept the hype"? All I know is it works as advertised. Forgot to mention
my one at home too. Auto updates on, never a problem yet. WinXP SP2.

As to bugs upon bugs: Ok if you say so. Can't prove it by me.

Bill T.
 
Bill Turner said:
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"Accept the hype"? All I know is it works as advertised. Forgot to mention
my one at home too. Auto updates on, never a problem yet. WinXP SP2.

As to bugs upon bugs: Ok if you say so. Can't prove it by me.

You'll always get haters of successful companies Bill.

A lot of those will prefer cheap, *incompatable with most things* Cheapo or
freebie O.S's to avoid MS products. (Have to remember the everything for
free newsgroup title too!)

Remember the kids with the "I've got a Spectrum" and the other kid laughing
saying it's crap and the CBM 64 He had was better?

No doubt linux has the very same problems (or at least hackers/crackers
are'nt bothering to attack cheapo O.S's ....YET!)

I have both but like yourself prefer Windows...A lot more support should
there be a problem though I've had none.
 
Why is it most times when I go to the windows update website

WTF has windows updates got to do with FREEWARE ?

I see the same old 'anti OT purists' answering this Off Topic post.

Hypocrites.
 
I have been using Windows since Win 95. And I have had alot of
problems. But after crashing my PC 144 times I figured out what NOT to
do.

I have always had alot of very good friends that where techies and
helped me a lot, I learned a lot.
Windows is like a big batch of soup.

Too much of this, or that the soup goes bad.

Now if you do not install a lot of programs on your PC as one friend
who is a tech said "Do you want fries with that." Kind of computer.

My girlfriend is a tech as well, she and i both have a lot of apps on
our PC's I more than her I and CoMa beta test a lot of apps.

I recently installed a Unistaller to uninstall some troublesome
programs that would not uninstall.
The uninstaller uninstalled Explorer.exe. Which as we all know Kills
Windows!.

So I lost a lot of data, its annoying and a real pain.
I had most of it backed up.
Some I did not, but "found it once I will find it again."

So remember that soup you put to much salt the soup goes bad,
 
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So I lost a lot of data, its annoying and a real pain.
I had most of it backed up.
Some I did not, but "found it once I will find it again."

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Does the phrase "drive image" have any meaning to you? An experienced techie
should *never* lose data, no matter what happens, including fire, theft,
earthquake or thermonuclear war.

You are now an "experienced tech", presumably. Don't let it happen again.
:-)

Bill T.
 
Bill said:
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Spacey Spade said:
Because all the updates do is bloat the already bloated system a
little more. Eventually it gets so bloated that you're willing to
shell out big bucks for the next version ... and start the whole thing
all over again.

It can't be that all those $100,000/year (and up) programmers at MS
are incompetent. Can it?

I'm so glad someone else has figured this out! Praise be to Al Klein!

Only download a fix if it takes care of a problem that is bothering
you. Keep in mind that the "fix" may have new bloating features you
don't want attached to it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I don't know what planet you guys live on, but Windows update works fine,
thank you. I work in a library with 30 PCs, mostly WinNT and Win2K and eight
WinXPs. Windows update has never been a problem, except last summer when we
didn't do it and a virus whacked us. We have since learned our lesson and
there have been no more problems. We update all the time.

You obviously don't use it yourself so all you have to go on is hearsay.
Shame on you. :-)

Bill T.

Are you using Internet Explorer or Firefox as the workstation browser?
Make sure IE is completely removed so no one launches it. Same for OE
and Outlook.
 
Spacey said:
Are you using Internet Explorer or Firefox as the workstation browser?
Make sure IE is completely removed so no one launches it. Same for OE
and Outlook.
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We use both IE and Outlook on our 30 PCs. They work fine, which will
come as a surprise to MS haters. Get a life, you guys. Better yet, get
a new religion.

Mr Bill
 
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