Which is better??

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Hi! I would like to know your suggestions on choosing the display cards? AGP
and PCI-X which one is more better and stability?
 
Asuran said:
attn; Pro's

Hi! I would like to know your suggestions on choosing the display
cards? AGP and PCI-X which one is more better and stability?
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I assume by 'PCI-X' you mean 'PCI-E' and it isn't a question of "better"
it's a question of which one can your motherboard take? Boards with AGP
slots generally do not have PCI-E slots and vice versa (and, no, you cannot
put a PCI-E card in an ordinary PCI slot).

So, if your board has an AGP slot (usually brown) you need to purchase an
AGP card, if it has a PCI-E slot (can be any colour, depending on the
manufacturer, but most I've seen have either been blue or black). They are
longer than a standard PCI slot and have a lever at the end (usually white).

If in doubt, visit the board - or system - manufacturer's website.
 
Miss Perspicacia Tick said:
I assume by 'PCI-X' you mean 'PCI-E' and it isn't a question of "better"
it's a question of which one can your motherboard take? Boards with AGP
slots generally do not have PCI-E slots and vice versa (and, no, you
cannot put a PCI-E card in an ordinary PCI slot).

So, if your board has an AGP slot (usually brown) you need to purchase an
AGP card, if it has a PCI-E slot (can be any colour, depending on the
manufacturer, but most I've seen have either been blue or black). They are
longer than a standard PCI slot and have a lever at the end (usually
white).

If in doubt, visit the board - or system - manufacturer's website.
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So, what is the answer, which is better, the AGP or PCI-E (he obviously
didn't ask for the technicalities regarding what and how cards are used with
certain MOBOs)?
 
S

There goes my chance of using a PCI-E graphics card.. :(

On a lighter note, I know of somebody who cut down a 72 pin FPM stick with a
view to using it in a 30 pin slot.. the defence was simple enough.. there
was no documentation in the X-Acto tool kit stating that use of a fine tooth
X-Acto saw would essentially render a memory stick useless if any attempt
was made to shorten it a little..

If SP2 had been available at the time, I have no doubt that MS would have
been blamed..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user
 
Asuran said:
attn; Pro's

Hi! I would like to know your suggestions on choosing the display cards?
AGP
and PCI-X which one is more better and stability?
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Kind of a long read, but here are some stats on different AGP and PCI-E
cards:
http://www.spodesabode.com/content/article/gfxgroup/

And here is another:
http://www.diamondmm.com/howtobuyvideocard.php

You mean PCI-E, but to be honest, there isn't much more benefit to using a
PCI-E over an AGP type card at this time, except the PCI-E will cost more
:-). The main offering PCI-E has over AGP's best, is that PCI-E can be 4x
faster than the fastest AGP card (16x versus 8x). It all depends on what you
want, and especially if your are intense type gamer, or use intense graphics
apps, and more impostnatly, how much money you want to spend.
 
Tom

Why don't you tell the OP which is better?.. or is your sole purpose for
being here at all to criticize the help given by others?

So, in your own words please.. we are waiting.. you might also want to add
at the end of your 'piece' a remark covering the fact that what is best is
generally what fits..

And if I am going to learn off of a self confessed master such as yourself,
make it good..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user
 
Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
Tom

Why don't you tell the OP which is better?.. or is your sole purpose for
being here at all to criticize the help given by others?

So, in your own words please.. we are waiting.. you might also want to add
at the end of your 'piece' a remark covering the fact that what is best is
generally what fits..

And if I am going to learn off of a self confessed master such as
yourself, make it good..
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Well Mikey, if you read my reply (and stop worrying about lil'ol me), you'd
have seen that I stated there isn't much difference as of now, and provided
relevant links as to help the OP make a decision, or are there anymore hairs
in your ass that you have plucked out yet?
 
Tom

It would have been so easy for you to post the info FIRST.. but oh no.. you
choose to criticize others before deciding if you know enough to put in your
own answer..

It would be nice to see your name as the first answer for once..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user
 
Mikey, it would be oh so easy for you to do the very thing you are so
critical about, yet you only worry about lil'ol me, don't ya think? But,
since I read inline, I posted to Miss Premenstrual Sweat first, who claims
to be such the "pedant" and typically coughs up her phlegm at those whose
posts don't suit her sights. I just follow through with her, the very same
thing she does to others.
 
Asuran said:
attn; Pro's

Hi! I would like to know your suggestions on choosing the display cards? AGP
and PCI-X which one is more better and stability?
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As others have said, it is an "either/or" situation, depending on
which type of video slot your motherboard has.

PCI Express 16 video slots operate at a higher base speed than AGP
slots, so the potential performance is better with PCIe.

My impression of the current market is that systems with PCIe cards
with perform better than systems with AGP cards that have a comparable
price. However a high end (= high priced) AGP card will outperform a
bargain priced PCIe card.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
 
In all of this, and yes I'm coming in late, Steven Chan hasn't given much
thought to his posting.

Obviously there is a reason for his post, but that hasn't been given. A
person seeking proper advice would specify the details of their computer and
the applications for which the advanced graphics performance is required.

As for PCI-E vs AGP the debate is irrelevant if the PC supports one bu not
the other.

We all waste out time by responding to this further.
 
Thank you..guys and i already know what should i need to purchased for my new
pc! Hei..asked you once again compares with ATI and NVIDIA do you know which
is better in terms of graphics/animations and gaming? Thank you.
 
Mike said:
Tom

Why don't you tell the OP which is better?.. or is your sole purpose
for being here at all to criticize the help given by others?

So, in your own words please.. we are waiting.. you might also want
to add at the end of your 'piece' a remark covering the fact that
what is best is generally what fits..

And if I am going to learn off of a self confessed master such as
yourself, make it good..
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Mike,

I've had 'Tom' in my killfile for ages. I strongly recommend you do the
same. He's a complete moron. He never offers any advice, just criticises
everyone else.
 
Miss Perspicacia Tick said:
Mike,

I've had 'Tom' in my killfile for ages. I strongly recommend you do the
same. He's a complete moron. He never offers any advice, just criticises
everyone else.
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Well, considering your more than caustic repsonses you give here, as opposed
to offering help, I would suggest you glare at yourself in the mirror a bit
longer. You far outdo anyone here with demeaning other, while not giving any
helpful advice. But, noting that Tom's first reply to you was very spot on
to your reply, how did your reply help the OP answer his question, since he
didn't ask about compatibility, rather what you think is best?
 
You did no such thing in your first post, you specifically asked about
advantages between PCI-E and AGP, not what video card maker is better, or do
you not read your own writings?
 
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