Which Anti Virus to use?

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Dan

Presently using Norton 05 Internet, and Webroot Spyware. Does
Microsoft offer adequate safe coverage? I have 2 pc'c linked by
Linksys wireless.
 
Dan

My preference is for AVG free edition.. others like Avast.. Kapersky and
Nod32 are well respected, but not free.. avoid McAfee and Norton..

Re. Firewalls.. Zonealarm is still free and widely used.. Sygate free
firewall is no longer.. Kerio free firewall is to be resurrected soon.. some
prefer to just sit behind a router.. I am one of them..
 
Mike said:
Dan

My preference is for AVG free edition.. others like Avast.. Kapersky and
Nod32 are well respected, but not free.. avoid McAfee and Norton..

Re. Firewalls.. Zonealarm is still free and widely used.. Sygate free
firewall is no longer.. Kerio free firewall is to be resurrected soon.. some
prefer to just sit behind a router.. I am one of them..
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Avast! has a free version and it's better than AVG.

Alias
 
BitDefender 8 free product is at best a backup solution. It does not offer
an active protection like AVG.
 
Dan said:
Presently using Norton 05 Internet, and Webroot Spyware. Does
Microsoft offer adequate safe coverage? I have 2 pc'c linked by
Linksys wireless.
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LOL! MS is the creator of all the holes exploited by malware writers.
Plus anything MS is a big fat target looking for new way to get hit. As
a matter of security, do you think it makes common sense to place all
your eggs in one basket? If not, then stay way far away for MS's
security products. Plus, in effect, you are rewarding them for creating
the holes that malware writers exploit! Plus all of MS's software
offerings are in BETA, and one should NEVER rely on BETA software!

For AV, Avast or AVG are good solutions for home users, and for spyware
protection, a combination of Spybot S&D, Adaware, and Spyware Blaster.
All free, unlike the bloated resourse-sapping overpriced products for
Symancrap.

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I've been using pc's on a professional level for years. I'm currently using
Norton Internet Security 2005, Microsoft Anti-Spyware & Lavasoft's Ad-Aware.
I've never had a virus, or spyware. My IE does not get hijacked. Corporate
professionals almost always rely upon professional software. I advice is:
You should too!
 
Hospo said:
I've been using pc's on a professional level for years. I'm
currently using Norton Internet Security 2005, Microsoft Anti-Spyware
& Lavasoft's Ad-Aware. I've never had a virus, or spyware. My IE
does not get hijacked. Corporate professionals almost always rely
upon professional software. I advice is: You should too!
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LOL! What are you, a hooker?

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Hospo said:
I've been using pc's on a professional level for years. I'm currently using
Norton Internet Security 2005,
Crapware.

Microsoft Anti-Spyware
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LOL! it's in BETA.
& Lavasoft's Ad-Aware.
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Good program.
I've never had a virus, or spyware.
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You've never lied, either, right?
My IE does not get hijacked. Corporate
professionals almost always rely upon professional software. I advice is:
You should too!
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My advice is for you to get over yourself.

Alias
 
Kurt,

This is a microsoft forum that is used to assist people with advise and
instruction. All you do is mouth nasty phrases and share your one-sided
opinions with people. Why don't you get a life and go find a forum for
opinionated people and leave the advice offerings to the professionals? If
you hate microsoft so much, why are you here? Leave!
 
Hospo said:
Kurt,

This is a microsoft forum that is used to assist people with advise
and instruction.
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It is? And to think, I've been using this place as my personal virtual
playground since 2001! I glad someone finally told me the true purpose
of this group! [Heavy sarcasm]
All you do is mouth nasty phrases
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All I did was ask you a question, as you certainly don't apear to be a
computer professional, I was just trying to narrow down what kind of
professional you really are.
and share your
one-sided opinions with people.
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ROFL! And I suppose your opinions are multi-sided like your
personalities?
Why don't you get a life
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Thanks, but what would I do with another?
and go find
a forum for opinionated people and leave the advice offerings to the
professionals?
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Professional what? You still haven't said.
If you hate microsoft so much, why are you here?
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Oh! Is this a forum for MS-asskissers only? And I never said I hate
MS, so that shows how much you don't know.
Leave!
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Ignore! Or do you not possess the self-control to just ignore my
one-side opinions?

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Ditch Shitmantic products, much cheaper and much better AV programs;

http://www.f-prot.com/
http://www.eset.com/home/home.htm
http://www.kaspersky.com/

Microsoft Anti-Spyware; Still in beta*, it's been in beta* longer than
operating system, office applications and development software have been in
beta* for.
Lavasoft's Ad-Aware, very good, pat on the back with sugar and cream, if
it's not beyong the issue of your mental capacity you might want to use it
in conjuction with SpywareBlaster which, is an immuniser of spyware.
Spyware, that which you claim never to of had or just haven't realised it
yet.

beta*: Is the new line of Microsoft products. Which allows them to deny all
responsibilty.

This should help you Hostpooh.

- Winux P

: I've been using pc's on a professional level for years. I'm currently
using
: Norton Internet Security 2005, Microsoft Anti-Spyware & Lavasoft's
Ad-Aware.
: I've never had a virus, or spyware. My IE does not get hijacked.
Corporate
: professionals almost always rely upon professional software. I advice is:
: You should too!
:
: "kurttrail" wrote:
:
: > Dan wrote:
: > > Presently using Norton 05 Internet, and Webroot Spyware. Does
: > > Microsoft offer adequate safe coverage? I have 2 pc'c linked by
: > > Linksys wireless.
: >
: > LOL! MS is the creator of all the holes exploited by malware writers.
: > Plus anything MS is a big fat target looking for new way to get hit. As
: > a matter of security, do you think it makes common sense to place all
: > your eggs in one basket? If not, then stay way far away for MS's
: > security products. Plus, in effect, you are rewarding them for creating
: > the holes that malware writers exploit! Plus all of MS's software
: > offerings are in BETA, and one should NEVER rely on BETA software!
: >
: > For AV, Avast or AVG are good solutions for home users, and for spyware
: > protection, a combination of Spybot S&D, Adaware, and Spyware Blaster.
: > All free, unlike the bloated resourse-sapping overpriced products for
: > Symancrap.
: >
: > --
: > Peace!
: > Kurt
: > Self-anointed Moderator
: > microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
: > http://microscum.com/mscommunity
: > "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
: > "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
: >
: >
: >
 
LOL! it's in BETA.
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And even in it's pre-beta form (Giant Antispyware) it was one of the
top rated products. The additional development work as a Microsoft
Beta product has only made it better.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
 
Dan said:
Presently using Norton 05 Internet, and Webroot Spyware. Does
Microsoft offer adequate safe coverage? I have 2 pc'c linked by
Linksys wireless.
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You have a combination of the very best (Webroot) and very worst
(Norton) products, at least in my opinion.

Alternatives to Norton would include AVG or Avast antivirus (free); or
Kaspersky, Trend PCCillin, or eTrust (paid products).

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
 
Ron said:
And even in it's pre-beta form (Giant Antispyware) it was one of the
top rated products. The additional development work as a Microsoft
Beta product has only made it better.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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I heard it gives a lot of false positives.

Alias
 
Dan said:
Presently using Norton 05 Internet, and Webroot Spyware. Does
Microsoft offer adequate safe coverage? I have 2 pc'c linked by
Linksys wireless.
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Keep 2 anti-virus programs on your pc. Keep both updated.
 
Ron said:
And even in it's pre-beta form (Giant Antispyware) it was one of the
top rated products. The additional development work as a Microsoft
Beta product has only made it better.
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LOL! I've tested it, and think its crap. Especially since MS is in bed
with companies like Claria.

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Kurt
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
Alias said:
I heard it gives a lot of false positives.
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I've *seen* that it gives a lot of false positives. Also, without going into
it too deeply, I couldn't see how to stop it re-setting itself to run at
Startup, every time you use it.


Shane
 
Microsoft Anti-Spyware
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I heard it gives a lot of false positives.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
I've *seen* that it gives a lot of false positives.
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False positives as in detecting something as being a part of a named
malware when it was not?

Or in rating an edgy app as malware when you wouldn't judge it that?

Or raising general heuristic alerts on things that were harmless?

I'd consider only the first as a true false positive, e.g. detecting
signature material within an av product as if it were that malware.
If you know of any cases of this, please list them here, as these are
serious flaws we would wish to act on. In the harder test traditions
of the av industry, one false positive can disqualify a product.

The second is always going to be controversial when you expand malware
beyond viruses and criminal trojans to generally unwanted commercial
software, as one must do in the 21st century. If anything, MSAS have
been accused of being too weak; they detect things OK, but the advice
on what to do about these detections may be too "soft" for comfort.

The last is simply the way risk management works. Malware scanners
use the blacklist approach when they tell you they blocked a named
malware recognised as such; they use the whitelist approach when they
block all risk behaviors until you indicate it's OK for that
particular program to initiate that particular risk.

So if by "false positive", you mean "I ran a batch file I wrote, and
MSAS popped up a dialog warning me a script was trying to run", then
welcome to the world of risk management - that's not a "false
positive" because it's not a malware detection as such.


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