What's happened to Messenger?

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Bobby

I had to do a repair install of Windows (XPSR1). Among other things,
Messenger was misbehaving before my re-install. But now it doesn't appear
*at all*. There's no sign of it - anywhere.

What's happened? How do I recover it? Apart from Messenger my PC is now
running perfectly.

Bobby
 
Are you talking about MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger?
If Windows Messenger is acting up or not to be found
thats a good thing because companies do netsend random
IPs and you get ads and crap, if you want to recover MSN
go to the MSN website and download the newer version
that's out now.
 
So my usual anti-spam software won't work? I use Ad-Aware and another
program (forget its name) and these are reporting a clean machine. But I'm
still getting these f@cking pop-ups. :-(
 
Wrong as well. Disabling messenger service will *not* effect _internal_
notifications. No services depend on messenger service. As well, I don't
know of any AV software that depends on Alerter Service. And I haven't seen
any errors in my log after disabling the service. Although I still agree
with the firewall approach.

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NOT WRONG........... the note about disabling the messenger service comes
right from the microsoft kb artcle, posted on their site, about messenger
service popups.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;330904
So you know better than MS how their software works and how disabling the
messenger service effects the os. Why would ms know what it does, they only
designed the software. And you also know for sure 100% that no services at
all depend on the messenger service. Gee maybe you should call ms, tell them
they are wrong about the software they designed and tell them how you know
that no service depends on it.
Have you tried every AV software program out there? There are 10's if not
100's. Of couse you didn't, so how would you know that no av software at all
uses the messenger service. You wouldn't, but I imagine ms would. Maybe
that's why they posted the note, cause they know and you don't.
You should not post info with no proof to back it up. If you're not up to
speed on the subject it would be best not to tell someone they're wrong,
unless you want to look like a fool again.
 
The usual anti-popup software will not stop messenger service ads. A
firewall is the only correct solution to stop messenger service ads.
 
Try going to windows update website and see if windows messenger is listed
as an update to be installed.
 
| "Windows cannot find this file."

Bobby, go to Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Add/Remove Windows
Components and make sure Windows Messenger is checked. It should be the last
item in the list.

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Hi Bobby,

Either right click the inf/install or edit sysoc.inf (located in
/WINDOWS/inf). Under [Components] you should see the following line:

msmsgs=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,7

Now, take the word 'hide' out of the line, and it should look like this:

msmsgs=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,,7

Now exit and save. Go to Add or Remove Programs, and click on Add/Remove
Windows Components. There you should now be able to check the MSN Messenger
Service.

/xp_tweaks.htm

Top 10 Frequently Asked Questions and Answers
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/top10faqs.htm
 
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Bobby said:
So my usual anti-spam software won't work?
Click to expand...
It will, purplehaz was mistaken. Read my other post.

I use Ad-Aware and another
program (forget its name) and these are reporting a clean machine. But I'm
still getting these f@cking pop-ups. :-(
Click to expand...
Because Messenger Service is a built in component of XP. Ad-aware doesn't
reconize it as Adware, since it is not Adware. It is a useful tool for
network administrators, that has just been exploited.
 
No, that does not actually remove or add it. It just removes or adds access
to it from the start menu.

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Well it does look like some info doesn't match, but I'd trust the kb over
anything else. But you're missing the real point here. You're against me
having the note about the alerter service in my answer cause you think the
info is wrong. But what the note does is discourage people from disabling
the messenger service. Disabling the service is not the correct solution to
stopping messenger service ads, period. The *only* correct answer is
installing and/or enabling a firewall. Disabling only hides the real problem
of open ports. Ports that are so easy to exploit and hack, my mother could
do it. If everyone on the internet would use a firewall, these ads would
cease to exist and the companies that create them and sell the bogus
software would die. If the note stops one person from listening to all the
bad advice about disabling the messenger service and convinces them to
install a firewall then that's all that matters. Whether or not the note,
written by ms, is correct or not doesn't matter, it's the message that it
sends -- don't disable the service, use a firewall.
 
I would agree 100% with that, especially for folks on broadband that have an
always on connection.
I personally prefer a hardware solution, I run my cable modem behind a
Linksys router, and have never seen one of the messenger service popups so
many complain about.
Simply disabling the messenger service does nothing to protect the computer
against the open ports that are being exploited.
You just gotta use "protection" these days :).

Don Burnette
 
I agree with the firewall approach too. I just felt that you're info was
incorrect. Now I see that it was just mismatched help files.

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