WGA - Creating more wealth!

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Debi

Hi!

Just a quick polint which is really getting to me!

It appears from a quick scan of eBay that all Microsoft (MS) have achieved
with thier WGA initiative is to create new and substantial wealth for the
pirates! The WGA fix is for sale and they the pirates appear to be making a
fortune. They will make even more whem MS react to the fix and another
remedy is distributed!

The pirates are laughing all the way to the bank and they can't wait for
another MS 'nag' go they can make even more!

That's it, sorry guys.... rant over!


Debi :-)
 
Debi said:
Hi!

Just a quick polint which is really getting to me!

It appears from a quick scan of eBay that all Microsoft (MS) have achieved
with thier WGA initiative is to create new and substantial wealth for the
pirates! The WGA fix is for sale and they the pirates appear to be making
a fortune. They will make even more whem MS react to the fix and another
remedy is distributed!

The pirates are laughing all the way to the bank and they can't wait for
another MS 'nag' go they can make even more!

That's it, sorry guys.... rant over!


Debi :-)
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They won't be worrying about what money other people make. They are only
concerned with their own profits.

They will be naively looking at the short-term revenue gains of people
panic-buying XP, after being told that their Windows is not genuine - not
realising the detrimental effect it will have on sales of Vista and the
detrimental effect it will have on the genuine customer's perception of
Microsoft.

So the head of wga will receive a pat on the back for good work done, while
the head of Vista will get the blame, when their potential Vista customers
switch to linux, or stick with a non-spyware infested version of Windows.

Jon
 
They won't be worrying about what money other people make. They are only
concerned with their own profits.
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They will be naively looking at the short-term revenue gains of people
panic-buying XP, after being told that their Windows is not genuine - not
realising the detrimental effect it will have on sales of Vista and the
detrimental effect it will have on the genuine customer's perception of
Microsoft.
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So the head of wga will receive a pat on the back for good work done,
while the head of Vista will get the blame, when their potential Vista
customers switch to linux, or stick with a non-spyware infested version of
Windows.
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Silliness! Vista won't run on most current machines with any benefit so
upgrades are NOT a biggie for Vista. So you'll have to buy a MAC instead of
a PC with Vista already loaded to keep Vista from adding to MS's bottom
line. Anyone that thinks most users will convert to Linux is deluded.
 
Steve said:
Silliness! Vista won't run on most current machines with any benefit so
upgrades are NOT a biggie for Vista. So you'll have to buy a MAC instead of
a PC with Vista already loaded to keep Vista from adding to MS's bottom
line. Anyone that thinks most users will convert to Linux is deluded.
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Many retail stores where I live will sell you a computer and install
Linux for free. WGA will do more for Linux and the Mac than any virus or
trojan could ever do.

Alias
 
Steve Shattuck wrote:

Anyone that thinks most users will convert to
Linux is deluded.
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Not until the major OEMs start selling computers without the Windows tax
included will most users convert to Linux. When people and small
businesses see the same computers price, with the Windows tax, and
without it, then they will really start considering dropping Windows for
Linux.

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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
kurttrail said:
Steve Shattuck wrote:



Not until the major OEMs start selling computers without the Windows
tax included will most users convert to Linux. When people and small
businesses see the same computers price, with the Windows tax, and
without it, then they will really start considering dropping Windows
for Linux.
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Bah! OEM Windows costs the manufacturer what, maybe $30? So you buy a $500
machine for $470 and get Linux "free!"

Free?

1. A couple of hours of your time to install Linux.*
2. A few more hours to learn the basics.
3. A few weeks to move up the learning curve.
4. Perhaps a few replacement devices (printer, etc.) because your existing
ones don't have Linux drivers.
Total investment in time, tears, and treasure: appx: $15,000.

Now this is the result of those whose dominant buying motive is money (the
owners of the machines). For those whose dominant buying motive is
"minimization of woe" (purchasing agents, supervisors), the grief that would
come each day from the shrews, harridans, and fishwives making up the
administrative staff is just too awful to contemplate (for anyone who's ever
been married, multiply your worst nag experience by 100).
 
|>Hi!
|>
|>Just a quick polint which is really getting to me!
|>
|>It appears from a quick scan of eBay that all Microsoft (MS) have achieved
|>with thier WGA initiative is to create new and substantial wealth for the
|>pirates! The WGA fix is for sale and they the pirates appear to be making a
|>fortune. They will make even more whem MS react to the fix and another
|>remedy is distributed!

Pirates only made it available, jerks are the ones that expect to make
money on it.

It's just a rework'd LegitCheckControl.dll file.
 
Bah! OEM Windows costs the manufacturer what, maybe $30? So you buy a $500
machine for $470 and get Linux "free!"

Free?

1. A couple of hours of your time to install Linux.*
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It's obvious you've never tried installing any of the recent distros of
Linux. Many of today's distros install in around 15 minutes (maybe 25 min
on a slower box) and that doesn't only include the o/s itself but a few
hundred applications as well.
2. A few more hours to learn the basics.
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OK, so Linux is DIFFERENT than Windoze (thank gawd) and requires learning
some new stuff. But a Wintard like you that still has his VCR blinking
12:00 would find that task difficult I guess.
3. A few weeks to move up the learning curve.
Click to expand...

Look at the weeks wasted over the course of using Windoze between getting
updates installed (reboots required most times), getting updates for
anti-virus software/spyware/etc. and defragging your Sea Drive and you'll
quickly learn about wasted time. Never mind the inevitable need to
re-install your Windoze from time to time because it's crapped out or
having to spend hours trying to remove malware because it just wasn't
caught.
4. Perhaps a few replacement devices (printer, etc.) because your existing
ones don't have Linux drivers.
Click to expand...

Maybe, but one can today get most of that stuff working under Linux. Heck
there are even devices that don't work under XP now.
Total investment in time, tears, and treasure: appx: $15,000.
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What a load of crap! But expected from a MickeyMouse Fanboy like you.
Now this is the result of those whose dominant buying motive is money (the
owners of the machines). For those whose dominant buying motive is
"minimization of woe" (purchasing agents, supervisors), the grief that
would come each day from the shrews, harridans, and fishwives making up
the administrative staff is just too awful to contemplate (for anyone
who's ever been married, multiply your worst nag experience by 100).
Click to expand...

Still a lot cheaper than going the Windoze route. :-)

--
The ULTIMATE Windoze Fanboy:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2370205018226686613

View Some Common Linux Desktops ...
http://linclips.crocusplains.com/index.php
 
I have yet to have any ***Lintard*** show me that Linux is better. When you
can load AutoCAD 2005 into Linux, and have it function as smoothly (and with
the same apparent speed) as it does in Windows XP, then you will have made a
believer out of me.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
I usually try to follow the theme of the thread, however you did not. so
I will top post.
AutoCAD is a multi thousand dollar program used by design engeneers.
This would hardly be needed to send a photo of the grandkids or to play
a game or two of freecell.
A lot of people leave the big box store with a PC with windows
preinstalled
but would not be aware of much of a difference whether Linux, OSX or
whatever was installed.

Richard Urban wrote:
|| I have yet to have any ***Lintard*** show me that Linux is better.
|| When you can load AutoCAD 2005 into Linux, and have it function as
|| smoothly (and with the same apparent speed) as it does in Windows
|| XP, then you will have made a believer out of me.
||
|| --
|| Regards,
||
|| Richard Urban
|| Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
|| (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
||
|| Quote from George Ankner:
|| If you knew as much as you think you know,
|| You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
||
|| ||| On Saturday 03 June 2006 07:39 am, HeyBub had this to say in
||| microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
|||
|||| kurttrail wrote:
||||| Steve Shattuck wrote:
|||||
||||| <snip>
|||||
|||||| Anyone that thinks most users will convert to
|||||| Linux is deluded.
|||||
||||| Not until the major OEMs start selling computers without the
||||| Windows tax included will most users convert to Linux. When
||||| people and small businesses see the same computers price, with
||||| the Windows tax, and without it, then they will really start
||||| considering dropping Windows for Linux.
||||
|||| Bah! OEM Windows costs the manufacturer what, maybe $30? So you
|||| buy a $500
|||| machine for $470 and get Linux "free!"
||||
|||| Free?
||||
|||| 1. A couple of hours of your time to install Linux.*
|||
||| It's obvious you've never tried installing any of the recent
||| distros of Linux. Many of today's distros install in around 15
||| minutes (maybe 25 min on a slower box) and that doesn't only
||| include the o/s itself but a few hundred applications as well.
|||
|||| 2. A few more hours to learn the basics.
|||
||| OK, so Linux is DIFFERENT than Windoze (thank gawd) and requires
||| learning some new stuff. But a Wintard like you that still has his
||| VCR blinking 12:00 would find that task difficult I guess.
|||
|||| 3. A few weeks to move up the learning curve.
|||
||| Look at the weeks wasted over the course of using Windoze between
||| getting updates installed (reboots required most times), getting
||| updates for anti-virus software/spyware/etc. and defragging your
||| Sea Drive and you'll quickly learn about wasted time. Never mind
||| the inevitable need to re-install your Windoze from time to time
||| because it's crapped out or having to spend hours trying to remove
||| malware because it just wasn't caught.
|||
|||| 4. Perhaps a few replacement devices (printer, etc.) because your
|||| existing
|||| ones don't have Linux drivers.
|||
||| Maybe, but one can today get most of that stuff working under
||| Linux. Heck there are even devices that don't work under XP now.
|||
|||| Total investment in time, tears, and treasure: appx: $15,000.
||||
||| What a load of crap! But expected from a MickeyMouse Fanboy like
||| you.
|||
|||| Now this is the result of those whose dominant buying motive is
|||| money (the
|||| owners of the machines). For those whose dominant buying motive is
|||| "minimization of woe" (purchasing agents, supervisors), the grief
|||| that would come each day from the shrews, harridans, and fishwives
|||| making up the administrative staff is just too awful to
|||| contemplate (for anyone who's ever been married, multiply your
|||| worst nag experience by 100).
||||
|||| -------
|||| *Alternative: Hire a pre-pubescent male (either chronological or de
|||| facto)
|||| to do the installation, ~$50.00.
|||
||| Still a lot cheaper than going the Windoze route. :-)
|||
||| --
||| The ULTIMATE Windoze Fanboy:
|||
||| http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2370205018226686613
|||
||| View Some Common Linux Desktops ...
||| http://linclips.crocusplains.com/index.php
 
So the head of wga will receive a pat on the back for good work done,
while
the head of Vista will get the blame, when their potential Vista customers
switch to linux, or stick with a non-spyware infested version of Windows.
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....and this is a bad thing?

With the amount of DRM, and the lopsided-ness of the user interface I can
only hope that Vista becomes as popular as OS/2!

By lopsided-ness I mean that there are several ways to turn ON a
Microsoft-centric feature, but almost no way to turn it OFF - like the UAP
(or whatever they call it now). 23 clicks to get to a feature that used to
be two clicks away, etc.
 
1. A couple of hours of your time to install Linux.*
2. A few more hours to learn the basics.
3. A few weeks to move up the learning curve.
4. Perhaps a few replacement devices (printer, etc.) because your existing
ones don't have Linux drivers.
Total investment in time, tears, and treasure: appx: $15,000.
Click to expand...

So, how will this be different from Vista?

Drivers aren't out there. The UI is greatly different from XP so there is
still that learning curve. ALSO, what you forgot to mention is all the
occurances of someone going out and buying a "Windows compatible" program or
piece of hardware and finding out that Windows compatible does NOT mean
Vista compatible.
 
People "keep" posting as how Linux is better. Well, I happen to need
AutoCAD.

Linux is NOT better - it doesn't even compete! Same game - different
ballpark.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
NoStop said:
OK, so Linux is DIFFERENT than Windoze (thank gawd) and requires
learning some new stuff. But a Wintard like you that still has his
VCR blinking 12:00 would find that task difficult I guess.
Click to expand...

I don't have a VCR. VCRs are SO 80's. What does yours blink?
Look at the weeks wasted over the course of using Windoze between
getting updates installed (reboots required most times), getting
updates for anti-virus software/spyware/etc. and defragging your Sea
Drive and you'll quickly learn about wasted time. Never mind the
inevitable need to re-install your Windoze from time to time because
it's crapped out or having to spend hours trying to remove malware
because it just wasn't caught.

What a load of crap! But expected from a MickeyMouse Fanboy like you.
Click to expand...

In my small company, we have 26 XP users and we bill our time at $100/hour.
26 users at 1 hour for installation and four hours each for training and two
hours bitching/weeping = 26 x 7 x 100 = $18,200 in potential lost revenue.
In two years (on all these machines), we had, like, maybe three unscheduled
re-boots and NO re-installs (unless you count reinstalls due to hard drive
replacements - of which there have been four). Sorry about your contrary
experience. On the other hand, I understand Linux users sometimes reinstall
just for fun!

As for being a Micros~1 Fanboy, well, they DID send me a checky-poo last
year for $1600 as a bonus dividend for the piddly few shares I own; when's
the last time anybody got a stock dividend from Linux?
Still a lot cheaper than going the Windoze route. :-)
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Maybe, but the investment in Windows is already made. You're talking about a
NEW expense of tens of thousands of dollars for my small company. For a new
installation, with immigrants who don't already speak Micros~1, you might
have a valid selling point. In my view, Linux has about the same growth
curve as the metric system or the total eradication of smoking. Eventually,
perhaps, but not anytime soon.
 
HeyBub said:
Bah! OEM Windows costs the manufacturer what, maybe $30? So you buy a
$500 machine for $470 and get Linux "free!"
Click to expand...

And how much does the OEM charge for it?
Free?

1. A couple of hours of your time to install Linux.*
Click to expand...

Not if it came preinstalled by the OEM.
2. A few more hours to learn the basics.
Click to expand...

You mean like clicking on a browser icon? LOL!
3. A few weeks to move up the learning curve.
Click to expand...

Since most users and small businesses only need browser, email, IM, and
an office suite, the learning curve isn't all that. Only most advanced
users of Windows would have a learning curve. And there is fewer of
them than average users.
4. Perhaps a few replacement devices (printer, etc.) because your
existing ones don't have Linux drivers.
Total investment in time, tears, and treasure: appx: $15,000.
Click to expand...

LOL! You weren't very good at math, were you?
Now this is the result of those whose dominant buying motive is money
(the owners of the machines). For those whose dominant buying motive
is "minimization of woe" (purchasing agents, supervisors), the grief
that would come each day from the shrews, harridans, and fishwives
making up the administrative staff is just too awful to contemplate
(for anyone who's ever been married, multiply your worst nag
experience by 100).
Click to expand...

You are a fool.

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
Richard said:
People "keep" posting as how Linux is better. Well, I happen to need
AutoCAD.

Linux is NOT better - it doesn't even compete! Same game - different
ballpark.
Click to expand...



--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
Richard said:
People "keep" posting as how Linux is better. Well, I happen to need
AutoCAD.

Linux is NOT better - it doesn't even compete! Same game - different
ballpark.
Click to expand...

Then run AutoCAD in a virtual machine.

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
Tried that, slower that molasses.

I am "playing" with three different versions of Linux (out of about 380).
None of them have shown me what I need to see, to use it anywhere else but
on my TEST machine. I always look though.

Trying Ubuntu 6.06, Fedora CORE 5 and Linspire.

They all work, but I find them basically unusable for what I need to do.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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