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Ano Nym
If you want to worry about something intrusive, read this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/02/washington/02records.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/02/washington/02records.html
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Alias
Ano said:
This is one of the many reasons, as an ex-pat American, I am glad I
don't live in the USA anymore.
That said, WGA still makes me very angry.
Alias
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Guest
11:40 AM 6/2/2006
YEP!!
Looking more and more like the old slippery slope. If this is what we are
being told publicly, one should wonder what records have ALREADY been
delivered or promised by the telcoms, ISP's, etc.
They will be after our brainwaves soon. Time to get a larger tin-foil hat:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Foilhat.jpg
YEP!!
Looking more and more like the old slippery slope. If this is what we are
being told publicly, one should wonder what records have ALREADY been
delivered or promised by the telcoms, ISP's, etc.
They will be after our brainwaves soon. Time to get a larger tin-foil hat:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Foilhat.jpg
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Jon
Alias said:
Look at this for an invasion of privacy and in Spain of all places
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3697940.stm
Jon
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Alias
Jon said:Look at this for an invasion of privacy and in Spain of all places
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3697940.stm
Jon
Um, that implant is voluntary.
Alias
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Jon
Alias said:
True. I doubt many mere mortals could resist that Princess Laia in her white
labcoat, though.
Jon
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All Things Mopar
Today, with great enthusiasm and quite emphatically, Alias laid
this on an unsuspecting readership ...
Well, I'm glad you left and hope you never come back. What's that
old saying "investigate what you like, I ain't got nothin' to
hide!"
I strongly agree that recent wire tapping is the most egregious
assault on the Bill of Rights since FDR interned the Japanese-
Americans following Pearl Harbor. But, if you're not talking to the
camel jockies planning the next WTC attack, what have you got to
fear from the feds? And, in case you're unaware, it is a rare
company in the United States that isn't already tracking all
incoming and outgoing E-mail, all telephone calls in or out and all
web browsing as part of employee surveillance not only to make sure
no trade secrets are taken out but that workers are doing their
jobs and not ****ing around playing on the companies computer.
ON this point, we definitely agree.
this on an unsuspecting readership ...
Well, I'm glad you left and hope you never come back. What's that
old saying "investigate what you like, I ain't got nothin' to
hide!"
I strongly agree that recent wire tapping is the most egregious
assault on the Bill of Rights since FDR interned the Japanese-
Americans following Pearl Harbor. But, if you're not talking to the
camel jockies planning the next WTC attack, what have you got to
fear from the feds? And, in case you're unaware, it is a rare
company in the United States that isn't already tracking all
incoming and outgoing E-mail, all telephone calls in or out and all
web browsing as part of employee surveillance not only to make sure
no trade secrets are taken out but that workers are doing their
jobs and not ****ing around playing on the companies computer.
ON this point, we definitely agree.
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Bruce Chambers
Alias said:
So far....
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
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Bruce Chambers
Callmark1 said:
"Slippery slope?" No, it's more like a full frontal assault on the
Constitution. The Bush Administration is well on its way to creating
the theocratic police state that their masters, the Religious Right
lunatic fringe, want.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
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Jeff
Got to agree
Bruce Chambers said:
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Alias
Jeff said:
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Guest
.... so far indeed. Some of the current immigration legislation being
considered in congress contains provisions for a "bio-metric federal ID
card". If passed, there will presumably be a database of 11 or 12 milllion
aliens with bio-metric data included.
ØŸWhat will happen to this data base if/when/as these aliens become US
citizens? Deletion? I think not. Once this database is created, as with
all beaurocratic efforts, it will tend to creep up larger and larger until
there is enough acceptance to push it on the entire public. There is a
bio-metric card in your future too I think. Can the forehead bar code be
very far behind?
Wear your tin foil hats my friends ... and remember to protect your pets too:
http://www.pembinatrails.ca/arthuraleach/clubs_projects/app_comp/alum_foil/afdbtest.cat-hat.jpg
Callmark1 (T F H)
considered in congress contains provisions for a "bio-metric federal ID
card". If passed, there will presumably be a database of 11 or 12 milllion
aliens with bio-metric data included.
ØŸWhat will happen to this data base if/when/as these aliens become US
citizens? Deletion? I think not. Once this database is created, as with
all beaurocratic efforts, it will tend to creep up larger and larger until
there is enough acceptance to push it on the entire public. There is a
bio-metric card in your future too I think. Can the forehead bar code be
very far behind?
Wear your tin foil hats my friends ... and remember to protect your pets too:
http://www.pembinatrails.ca/arthuraleach/clubs_projects/app_comp/alum_foil/afdbtest.cat-hat.jpg
Callmark1 (T F H)
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Guest
If that is their goal, they will fail.
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Jeff
Yup,
What I heard about legislation; is not only for "aliens" but for ANY
citizen working!! to register with Homeland security.
George Orwell is laughing in his grave
Jeff
What I heard about legislation; is not only for "aliens" but for ANY
citizen working!! to register with Homeland security.
George Orwell is laughing in his grave
Jeff
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Didn't Bruce Willis' character from the future in "12 Monkeys" have a barcode?
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Verdefruto
I thought this was a technical discusson group.
Yes, I know technique has a political dimension
(give me one that hasn't), but please discuss
these at an
alt.microsoft.public.windowsxp.political.implications
in order we can focuses here in technical issues.
Regards.
Yes, I know technique has a political dimension
(give me one that hasn't), but please discuss
these at an
alt.microsoft.public.windowsxp.political.implications
in order we can focuses here in technical issues.
Regards.
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Rhonda Lea Kirk
Verdefruto said:
You can focus on technical issues by using your killfile or a little
personal restraint.
If you see "WGA" in the subject line, don't click on the thread.
rl
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
Human beings, who are almost unique in having
the ability to learn from the experience of others,
are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so. Douglas Adams
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Verdefruto
Why not ?
Sort of sin ? Censorship ?
Course not.
What I want to learn here are the technical issues
on WXP and features.
Learning about any other issues, the most important
they are (and they are), I will go learning them elsewhere.
A lot of people that, perhaps having nothing else to do,
come to this group only to do some inkling on MS, MS people,
and, worst, MVP people that are helping others with real
problems.
Best regards to you, Rhonda.
Sort of sin ? Censorship ?
Course not.
What I want to learn here are the technical issues
on WXP and features.
Learning about any other issues, the most important
they are (and they are), I will go learning them elsewhere.
A lot of people that, perhaps having nothing else to do,
come to this group only to do some inkling on MS, MS people,
and, worst, MVP people that are helping others with real
problems.
Best regards to you, Rhonda.
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Guest
I agree with much of what you say greenfruit-- especially ragging on MVP's in
here ... why the heck would you do that to such a nice group of people?
I say that most of us in here who benefit from their experience should help
them out by answering some of the more tedious, mundane questions from the
"typical" OP--i.e., Start > All Programs > blah balh blah
Having said that, I believe most in here are pretty thick-skinned. And I
don't know how you can stop posters from venting a little without throttling
the open nature of this forum. What community would long survive without a
little lubrication from off-topic postings and attempts-- albeit pathetic
attempts-- at humor. LOL
Callmark1, (Tf.H)
here ... why the heck would you do that to such a nice group of people?
I say that most of us in here who benefit from their experience should help
them out by answering some of the more tedious, mundane questions from the
"typical" OP--i.e., Start > All Programs > blah balh blah
Having said that, I believe most in here are pretty thick-skinned. And I
don't know how you can stop posters from venting a little without throttling
the open nature of this forum. What community would long survive without a
little lubrication from off-topic postings and attempts-- albeit pathetic
attempts-- at humor. LOL
Callmark1, (Tf.H)
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Leythos
aka@ said:
Except that you don't have any more privacy in any other country, even
less in most, than you did when you lived in the USA. If you really
think that Spain offers you more privacy, well, lets just say you really
are delusional.