Using applets

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I'm quite new to web site design. I found a free java applet on the web that
i'd like to use. I downloaded the web page and .jar file and graphic file and
put them in my current web site folder on my local computer. Then tried to
open the same exact web page I saw on the web site in frontpage 2000 the
applet doesn't seem to work. I get a grey screen where the jpeg should be.
All files are in the same directory. his directions were -> Put
"somefile.jar" file in same directory where is your "html" file. Any help
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Martin J
 
Many users of Windows XP and IE6 do not have a Java Virtual Machine (JVM), so will not be able to
run/see and Java applets unless the user goes to http://java.sun.com and download and install the
Sun JVM.

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Is this something that is cosmetic? I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot
pole, if so.

If it's something you *need* then that's different.

Most Java applets are huge and bulky and notoriously flaky
cross-browser/platform.
 
As an alternative, try using a Macromedia SWF for graphics effects. SWFs are
compatible with all browsers.

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Neither a follower
nor a lender be.
 
Except for people like me who have removed the plugin because of the barrage
of infinetly looping, non-stop Flash created ads.

Bob Lehmann
 
There is nothing wrong with Applets. They are nice. Size is really not a concern unless they are BIG. Mine is 43KB. If they are dial-up then what they get they expect. Yes they need the JVM. Point them to the manual download do not set the applet to install the JVM on demand. That is rude.

Applets do NOT work in FrontPage. They work over http when the applet is viewed in a browser embedded in a web page (.htm).

If you have troubles viewing the applet over the web that is served from your machine then you just need to make sure the files are where expected (error would be nice if not) and you have Sun's or Microsoft's JVM installed. There is a Microsoft JVM for Windows XP:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;163637
 
If they are dial-up then what they get they expect

That's harsh.

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Murray

There is nothing wrong with Applets. They are nice. Size is really not a
concern unless they are BIG. Mine is 43KB. If they are dial-up then what
they get they expect. Yes they need the JVM. Point them to the manual
download do not set the applet to install the JVM on demand. That is rude.

Applets do NOT work in FrontPage. They work over http when the applet is
viewed in a browser embedded in a web page (.htm).

If you have troubles viewing the applet over the web that is served from
your machine then you just need to make sure the files are where expected
(error would be nice if not) and you have Sun's or Microsoft's JVM
installed. There is a Microsoft JVM for Windows XP:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;163637
 
Not everyone has access to DSL, Cable or Satellite service

The MS KB states that the provided link, will not install the MS JVM, it will update the MS JVM if
already installed on the PC.
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There is nothing wrong with Applets. They are nice. Size is really not a concern unless they are
BIG. Mine is 43KB. If they are dial-up then what they get they expect. Yes they need the JVM.
Point them to the manual download do not set the applet to install the JVM on demand. That is rude.

Applets do NOT work in FrontPage. They work over http when the applet is viewed in a browser
embedded in a web page (.htm).

If you have troubles viewing the applet over the web that is served from your machine then you just
need to make sure the files are where expected (error would be nice if not) and you have Sun's or
Microsoft's JVM installed. There is a Microsoft JVM for Windows XP:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;163637
 
I provided the link to show what Microsoft is currently saying about its JVM. It is not the article which refers to
the actual "download" of the Microsoft JVM for Windows XP. It does exist. I don't know if Microsoft has
removed all the information on that. I suspect they have.

http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/javavm.html
 
Legally it is not available, since it has been removed from the MS website.

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I provided the link to show what Microsoft is currently saying about its JVM. It is not the article
which refers to
the actual "download" of the Microsoft JVM for Windows XP. It does exist. I don't know if
Microsoft has
removed all the information on that. I suspect they have.

http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/javavm.html
 
Thomas I don't think your description "illegal" is accurate. It is no longer supported, yes. It is no longer developed, yes. Is it illegal to "download" the Microsoft VM for Windows XP? I doubt it. If you know otherwise please post the appropriate Microsoft article in this regard. As far as I know Microsoft has agreed to no longer devote any more attention to it. That implies it is no longer under their control and the fact that they no longer have it available as a download in no way imples they still have jurisdiction over it. In fact that is a contradiction.
 
George,

Just because MS no longer distribute or supports an application or component, does not give any one
the right to distribute it. It is still the copyrighted property of Microsoft Corporation

So you think it would be ok, to distribute older versions of Office that are no longer supported? If
no, then why do you think it would be different for the MS JVM?

Since you think it is ok, I will let you search the MS site for proof that I am incorrect.

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Thomas I don't think your description "illegal" is accurate. It is no longer supported, yes. It is
no longer developed, yes. Is it illegal to "download" the Microsoft VM for Windows XP? I doubt it.
If you know otherwise please post the appropriate Microsoft article in this regard. As far as I
know Microsoft has agreed to no longer devote any more attention to it. That implies it is no
longer under their control and the fact that they no longer have it available as a download in no
way imples they still have jurisdiction over it. In fact that is a contradiction.
 
I would search for where you are correct. You are not so that would be futile.

Microsoft has agreed to no longer have claims on this application. It is as simple as that. Therefore no claims; no ownership. They have had the courts force them into this position. I didn't do it.

"Just because MS no longer distribute or supports an application or component, does not give any one the right to distribute it." - Thomas they no longer have any rights to it. That includes the right to say what can be done with it. Think about it.
 
George,

Sorry, but you are wrong.

First, MS agreed to no longer distribute the MS JVM under an agreement reach with Sun Microsystems,
but will continue to support current users of the MS JVM until December 2007.
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/

Second, see the following URL regarding distribution:
http://www.microsoft.com/permission/copyrgt/cop-soft.htm#Java

Third, the MS JVM is the copyright property of Microsoft Corporation (view properties of the
MSJAVA.dll). In the USA, the length of copyright is the life of the author, plus 70 years.
http://www.legal-database.com/copyright-length.htm

Additional info:
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/faq.asp

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I would search for where you are correct. You are not so that would be futile.

Microsoft has agreed to no longer have claims on this application. It is as simple as that.
Therefore no claims; no ownership. They have had the courts force them into this position. I
didn't do it.

"Just because MS no longer distribute or supports an application or component, does not give any one
the right to distribute it." - Thomas they no longer have any rights to it. That includes the right
to say what can be done with it. Think about it.
 
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