Update Menus?

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John Leeke

At my website www.HistoricHomeWorks.com I have a simple menu structure that
uses an "include page" at the top and bottom of each of hundreds of
webpages. The menus scroll out of view and into view along with the rest of
the page contents. The site was first developed in FP98, but I now use
FP2000 to maintain it.

I want to convert this menu structure to one that always keeps the menu in
view in a narrow band all across the top of the page. I suspect this would
be done with frames. Could you tell me the "right" way to do this?

Also, is there a simple way to remove all of the "include page" features
from the top and bottom of all those pages all an once?

Normally I would just start trying things until I got what I wanted, but my
situation is complicated by the fact that the only copy of my website is at
my remote server service. I do not have a copy of it here on my own desktop
computer. So I don't want to mess up my active website with a lot of
experimentation. I only have Window XP Home, so I think I cannot set up a
server
here on my own desktop.

Thanks for your help.

John
by hammer and hand great works do stand
by pen and thought best words are wrought
 
-----Original Message-----
At my website www.HistoricHomeWorks.com I have a simple
menu structure that uses an "include page" at the top
and bottom of each of hundreds of webpages. The menus
scroll out of view and into view along with the rest of
the page contents. The site was first developed in FP98,
but I now use FP2000 to maintain it.

I want to convert this menu structure to one that always
keeps the menu in view in a narrow band all across the
top of the page. I suspect this would be done with
frames. Could you tell me the "right" way to do this?
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No. This depends entirely on your requirements and skills.

Frames are a possibility, but they don't scale well and
they're hard to bookmark. The visitor's Address bar shows
the same URL (the frameset's) no matter where in your
site they happen to be.

You could also do this with a DIV and some JavaScript
code that moves it around as the visitor scrolls the
page, but that can be tricky to get working with all
browsers.
Also, is there a simple way to remove all of
the "include page" features from the top and bottom of
all those pages all an once?
Click to expand...

You could try searching your entire Web for

<!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="header.htm"
TAG="BODY" -->

and replacing it with an empty string. However, this will
likely take several tries. For example, the path in front
of header.htm may have several variations.
Normally I would just start trying things until I got
what I wanted, but my situation is complicated by the
fact that the only copy of my website is at my remote
server service. I do not have a copy of it here on my
own desktop computer. So I don't want to mess up my
active website with a lot of experimentation. I only
have Window XP Home, so I think I cannot set up a
server here on my own desktop.
Click to expand...

BAD situation. What if your remote site went belly up?

For the kind of changes you're describing, a disk-based
Web should work fine. Open your remote site, choose
Publish from the file menu, and send a copy of the entire
site to a folder somewhere on your hard disk. Then open
the copy and experiment.

If you must have a live Web server to test with, think
seriously about upgrading to Windows XP Pro. I've seen
upgrades for as little as $150.

You really should publish a local copy from of your Web
time to time, though, if for no other reason than backup.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
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Jim:

Thank you for your guidance.

I do routinely backup the site to my local disk drive, and upon your
reminder I have attempted to do it again, except I get the following error
message:

"An error occurred accessing your FrontPage web files. Authors - if
authoring against a web server, please contact the webmaster for this
server's site. WebMasters - please see the server's system log for more
details."

My procedure was to run FrontPage2000, log into the website with name and
password, File>PublishWeb> specify location, select publish all pages,
<Publish>. The website appears to be accessible to FrontPage and to Internet
Explorer.

What would cause this error message? Where do I find the system log? There
appears to me nothing about it in the help.

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John
by hammer and hand great works do stand
by pen and thought best words are wrought
 
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