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Just curious:
Has anyone checked out Winzip's "Uniblue RegistryBooster"?
I don't have the time to do an analysis of the product yet so thought I'd
see if there were any head-start opinions here. Well, with the exception of
the misinformationists anyway - misinformationists need not respond.
 
Don't know about their registry scan but their driver scan prompted me to
install the wrong drivers for my Creative soundcard!

Kenny Cargill
 
Twayne

You know my answer Twayne and as usual we both differ in our belief on registry
products


"Uniblue RegistryBooster" It is a snake oil product like all the others. Asking for
trouble if using it
 
As always, drivers should ONLY be downloaded from the manufacturer's web
site. Even Microsoft screws up the driver situation more often than is any
way acceptable, even for their own products.

That's a bad omen though; they shouldn't be messing with trying to provide
anyone with drivers.

Thanks,

Twayne



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Peter Foldes said:
Twayne

You know my answer Twayne and as usual we both differ in our belief
on registry products


"Uniblue RegistryBooster" It is a snake oil product like all the
others. Asking for trouble if using it

Yeah, had you avoided the need to add your second para, I wouldn't have felt
the need to tell you how screwed up you are and how ignorant it is of you to
make such statements that ALL are the same color!
I'd have given it a pass, but ... obviously you hope to have issued troll
bait, but other than this response, I haven't the need to fart around with
your closed minded, malicious and otherwise ignorant statements. You've
already been cubby-holed by most thinking people.
I used to consider you fairly knowledgeable but this libelous vendetta of
yours has ruined any credibility you may have ever had.

Twayne
 
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VanguardLH said:
http://www.winzip.com/

No mention of any "Uniblue" product. Perhaps you meant the
garbageware from www.uniblue.com.

Hmm, interesting. There was something there day before yesterday I think it
was, and they did admit it was a 3rd party program. Not now though.
I guess that answers my question: Thanks. Apparently I wasn't the only
one to chastise WinZip for promoting what I considered spam. OTOH I've
usually found their recommendations to be not be far off the mark so it
piqued my interest to research it a bit. I don't see anything about it
either, now. As a longtime winzip user I'm pretty disappointed in them.
I only went as far as checking Robtex and Spamcop.net and Google for a
reputation on Uniblue and they looked clean, prompting me to ask here about
it since time was at a premium. Additionally I noticed they'd been around
since 2004 so they weren't new to the scene.

And yes, in reality it was the "garbageware" from uniblue.com, as you called
it. I'll paste the e-mail I received at the end of this post, just in case
it does anyone any good as a warning. You'll note it does sound like a carny
worker's spiel; normally that would have turned me off, but like I said, I
was in a hurry (and still am damn it!).
At first I thought the Headers must be forged, etc., but parsing and
lookups came out fine; everything pointed to no forgeries. At least as far
as I could find at the time. So now I think it's just a good forgery, not a
goodmail I guess. I can't find any forgery but ... .

At any rate, I can see there's no reason to look any further at them. It's
not that I need their program, it's more a curiousity and I do keep my eyes
open for controversial applications. They're almost always shams but
occasionally there will be a gem among them<g>.

Regards, & thanks for your input,

Twayne`



------- spam in its entirety but not code ------

Uniblue RegistryBooster

Download Uniblue's best registry cleaner yet

The best RegistryBooster ever!
Uniblue is a Microsoft Gold Certified Partner

If you aren't cleaning your PC's registry regularly then your computer's
performance could be damaged by registry errors. Now, with the launch of the
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PC performance, unexpected computer crashes and other general glitches and
hitches.

Download Uniblue's best registry booster yet and follow our three easy steps
to a faster PC:


1. Download RegistryBooster 2010 and run a free scan. With only a few clicks
you'll quickly be able to see the damage status of your system and how many
errors need fixing.

------------------------------------------------------------------
http://download.uniblue.com/ven/rb/winzip/scan/registrybooster.exe
------------------------------------------------------------------

2. Clean your registry with just the click of a button.

3. Um...? That's it! Now you'll be able to enjoy:

* A faster scanning engine
* A simpler user interface
* Clearer scan results with intelligent system "damage" assessment
* Automatic registry backup for total system safety

Download your FREE RegistryBooster 2010 scan today and see how much faster
your PC could be with our best registry cleaner ever.

------------------------------------------------------------------
http://download.uniblue.com/ven/rb/winzip/scan/registrybooster.exe
------------------------------------------------------------------

But don't just take our word for how good RegistryBooster 2010 is:

"RegistryBooster 2010 is the only registry cleaner I use and recommend. It
is safe, makes backups before making any changes and it has a registry
defragmenter too." James Fisher, Microsoft Most Valuable Professional

Restore your PC's speed
Download your FREE performance scan now »

------------------------------------------------------------------
http://download.uniblue.com/ven/rb/winzip/scan/registrybooster.exe
------------------------------------------------------------------


The free RegistryBooster scan will provide you with a diagnostic report on
how your computer's performance can be optimized. You will then be able to
implement improvements by purchasing the full version of RegistryBooster.


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Unknown said:
You really mean you don't want to waste your time on garbage you'd
rather someone else?

Typical thinking for you, I suppose, and this response fits with your
trollish behavior on many posts you make.
 
Just curious:
Has anyone checked out Winzip's "Uniblue RegistryBooster"?
I don't have the time to do an analysis of the product yet so thought I'd
see if there were any head-start opinions here.  Well, with the exception of
the misinformationists anyway - misinformationists need not respond.

I will install it.

I have tried at least a dozen registry cleaners/optimizers/compactors/
compressors/defragmenters/remove unnecessary thingers.

What kind of testing and analysis would you do if you had the time?
 
Twayne said:
Just curious:
Has anyone checked out Winzip's "Uniblue RegistryBooster"?
I don't have the time to do an analysis of the product yet so
thought I'd see if there were any head-start opinions here. Well,
with the exception of the misinformationists anyway -
misinformationists need not respond.

There are several reviews from various places.

Some are fairly old (the product is not 'new'), most are new; so one might
want to use them to see how the product improved over releases... Did they
listen to the past reviews and comments?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E1681447939SF
http://www.pcmech.com/article/uniblue-registry-booster-review/
http://registry-repair-software-review.toptenreviews.com/uniblue-registrybooster-review.html
http://www.whatsabyte.com/P1/RegistryBooster_2009.html
http://www.maconusersgroup.org/RegistryBoosterReview.html
http://www.pallab.net/2009/07/05/uniblue-registry-booster-2009-review-and-benchmark/
http://personal-computer-tutor.com/uniblue2.htm

The more, the merrier.
 
Shenan said:

If you ever think your Registry needs to be cleaned, repaired, boosted, or
optimized (it doesn't), read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw
your own conclusions.
 
Jose said:
I will install it.

I have tried at least a dozen registry cleaners/optimizers/compactors/
compressors/defragmenters/remove unnecessary thingers.

Have you noticed any performance impovement from any of them? So far, no
one has been able to offer convincing evidence that registry "cleaners"
or "optimizers" speed up a PC appreciably (unless the PC is still
running Windows 95 or 98). I do realize that in rare circumstances, they
can be beneficial in quickly identifying problem spots, but to date I
have never come across any evidence to support the claim they
significantly boost performance.
 
Typical thinking but also true. Trollish behavior?????? You had best look in
a mirror to find the trollish one.
I don't push and have never pushed registry cleaners.
 
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Jose said:
I will install it.

I have tried at least a dozen registry cleaners/optimizers/compactors/
compressors/defragmenters/remove unnecessary thingers.

What kind of testing and analysis would you do if you had the time?

Actually, I wouldn't bother wtih it now. As you may have noticed in one of
my other responses some of the things I have figured out now, and had a few
responses here that back that up, says it's most likely not worth bothering
with.
I'm still curious, having a tendency to not burn bridges between me, but
I think I'll leave it until the holidays when I can get more consecutive
time together.

As for how/what I'd test and analyze, I have a few things I use but a lot of
it comes from using the program after the research and seeing where its
activities lead me. Most of these following are simply things I've picked up
around the 'net and only the implementations might actually be originated by
me. A sniffer you understand how to use is pretty handy, as are file
comparison ware and up to the minute disk images, plus file and registry
monitors, things like that. It has to be a labor of love, something
interesting, to do or the boredom of it will destroy any functional
outcomes. Patience and Perseverence become the top keywords<g>.

Things like, but far from being all-inclusive:
-- Check reputation, blocklists, complaints, newsgroup mentions, nanae,
etc. etc.. You have to be good at spotting the trends and separating them
from the chaff and WAGs.
-- Most important: Have a SANDBOX available; never use a production machine
when messing around with disk images known to contain malware.
-- Does it allow you to "unfix" fixes?
-- Does it do any repairs without giving you the chance to opt out of them?
-- If I fix it once, then fix it again, then discover one of the removals
it did was necessary to get program X to work properly, can I unroll that
specific change to get X to work again?
-- Are there any/many false positives?
-- Likewise with misses. In checking these I often use the fake virus Eicar
and three infected disk images from another computer that coincidentally
happened to be close enough to mine that I can "unfix" things to my own
compuer, meaning I can put those viruses onto my own computer and see if
they get caught.
Unfortunately (or fortunately<g>) I haven't had any malware in so long
I've nothing of my own to use for testing purposes. But clients have
provided me with some usable code they were infected with.
-- Speed of course. Hopefully such things have their own protected and
specialized engines so they don't chance using already infected executables
anywhere. Speed can be difficult to measure and I've never been certain I
got it accurate but then I'm usually looking for orders of magnitude, not a
few points one way or the other.
-- Specifically how it treats things like the GAIN spyware & the other
names it comes under, the one that will load more and more spyware
permanently as long as it's on the machine and is one real bitch to clean
off. Last I heard, the law suits GAIN started had all been turned down and
refused by the courts but that was some time ago. I don't know if the site/s
still exist to get it from, but it used to be real easy; there was a
particular one for smilies that tricked a lot of people, including myself
because it was recommended by a knowledgeable and reliable friend. Just
proved; do it yourself. Never depend on someone else's opinions/outcomes.
-- If they claim to "optimize" the registry, do they really, or do they
simply move a couple things up/down to make the boot seem different?
-- Keep good backups of the registry components for file comparisons so the
precise, exact changes can be seen and evaluated.
-- Is it customized to "allow" certain spywares to get through? Many are
these days. First time I ran into that was the GAIN incident, using Yahoo's
bastardized version of Norton AV. That one's a lot harder to check and
AFAIK only experience can give you the ammunition to be able to do at least
cursory testing. In the Yahoo case, they did admit to allowing GAIN (a
response to the law suit) but it was buried several tiers deep in their
policies and very vaguely defined at that.
-- Does it touch the HOSTS or any other type of file? That's a
show-stopper.
-- It can't phone home for any reason.

There's a lot more, some of it really simple, and I realize that's a little
haphazard as written, but it's the idea behind it all. The last time I did
one of those it took me almost 4 weeks but I work slowly and in spurts
rather than chance missing anything obvious, which is real easy to do. Oh,
and you have to watch out for dates of origin of the information too.
After that you at least get a feeling for whether it's malware or sending
out information as opposed to doing what it advertises. No damage or covert
changes are made to anything, etc.. So it becomes time to try the product
in reality and get some real world experience with it.
After an application appears to be doing what it says it'll do, then I
consider user friendliness, how it fits with the way I want to work, how
many things it locks up while it's running, appearance and ease of finding
the features/controls I want.

I don't recall whether you're pro/con registry manipulators but I decided to
spend a few minutes bashing the keyboard to write this since you asked, so
there 'tis.
If nothing else I'll have given some people some food for thought and
probably irritated the misinformatoinists too but that's OK. Coming from an
engineering background I'm naturally curious about how/if/why things
work/don't work, so that's why I feel I know just a little about the subject
from efforts so far.

If you do install & check it out, I would be quite interested in your
opinions and the outcomes but as I said earlier, I don't really expect it to
be stellar results, although I'd be satisfied if it just did what it said it
does and meets minimal expectations.
I'd like to spend some time over the holidays checking things further and
your own opinions might be pretty helpful in determining mehodologies for
the effort.

Regards,

Twayne
 
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Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP

That's a good set of links; thanks. They surprised me as a couple were more
positive than I expected, and the others followed the expected hype
channels. I plan to give this a little attention over the holidays and most
likely put it on my sandbox, at least, and see how it turns out. I noticed
a couple of claims there that my favorite reg apps do. But mostly I'm just
interested in whether it can be a recommendable application or might be on
the other side of the fence. I did a reputation check tonite and it turned
out positive too.

Regards,

Twayne
 
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PA Bear said:
If you ever think your Registry needs to be cleaned, repaired,
boosted, or optimized (it doesn't), read
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.

You're welcome to your own opinion, and that's all it is, is an opinion, not
a fact as you wish to make it seem.
Now, let's see here: Most registry cleaners give themselves good marks
and hype themselves, obviously in order to further their own business and
convince others that their printed words are THE information to believe;
right?
Next, let's think about aumha.net as referenced: Check out who wrote it?
The originator of the 'no registry cleaner can ever be any good and never
has been' posts. The negative posters are the very same misinformatinists as
appear in this very newsgroup and others in the microsoft groups. So, for
"proof" or evidence, you get/find an article that supports what you wish to
follow, sock-puppet or otherwise, and then try to recommend it as proof of
anything.
You all need to move into the current century, learn to think for
yourselves, and stop measuring your success by how many sock-puppets you can
gather to support you. It's fine to state a difference of opinion. It's
stoopid, egotistical, myopic, closed minded and sometimes narcicistic in a
couple of cases, to intentionally remain so ignorant as you have all chosen
to be.
Off to the side here I have a couple posts from one misinformationist who
said he would "never allow" a registry cleaner on his system, and the other
one talks about how ccleaner (crap cleaner of the old days) and a several
years old other application failed so miserably on his machine. There are
more such instances of such in the archives, but suffice it to say that
"misinformationist" sums it all up rather nicely in nicer words than
deserved, on this subject.

Most snake oil is made from Chinese water snakes.

Twayne
 
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Daave said:
Have you noticed any performance impovement from any of them? So far,
no one has been able to offer convincing evidence that registry
"cleaners" or "optimizers" speed up a PC appreciably (unless the PC
is still running Windows 95 or 98). I do realize that in rare
circumstances, they can be beneficial in quickly identifying problem
spots, but to date I have never come across any evidence to support
the claim they significantly boost performance.

It's the unusual case IME where an optimizer actually results in
noticeable/appreciable boost in performance. It's really only when a 20
second delay (the default) occurs while the registry searches for a
component before deciding it's not available (and doesn't warrant an error
message) that I've seen noticeable changes, and that case would be for
booting. It would often take a stopwatch to tell if there was any change in
performance timing. Again, they're special cases IMO. Oh, there was one I
just recalled: It manifested itself in an iterative situation where the
operation repeated many thousands of times in succession.
I've never noticed a perfrmance boost on my own machines but on occasion
I have seen it help in customer's machines. I don't look for it either as a
rule because it's not my purpose in running such a program. Even then you
have to be purposely looking for it though, since an A-B comparison can't be
made.
At the same time I've never seen a mfr taken to task for his claims of
performance boosts either; assuming you could get them to respond, I wonder
what they would say? Well, i wonder what those past the marketing peons
would say, really. Marketing types only know what they're told.
I don't dispute that performance boosts don't happen, but I do dispute
that they are NOTICEABLE. Most of us don't consider a few hundred
micro-Seconds or milliseconds to be much of a performance boost.

Twayne
 
Twayne said:
That's a good set of links; thanks. They surprised me as a couple were more
positive than I expected, and the others followed the expected hype
channels.

It isn't hype when someone disagrees with you. Otherwise, everything you
say is hype. Don't fall into the Alan Connor syndrome where either
everythig that agrees with you is saintly and everyone that disagrees with
you is satanic. Would you really want to live in a world of Twayne clones?
 
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VanguardLH said:
It isn't hype when someone disagrees with you. Otherwise, everything
you say is hype. Don't fall into the Alan Connor syndrome where
either everythig that agrees with you is saintly and everyone that
disagrees with you is satanic. Would you really want to live in a
world of Twayne clones?

LOL, that's not quite what I intended to convey, but ... close enough!
I'd NEVER think that everyone agreeing with me as saintly; smart maybe, but
not saintly<G>! I'm sure that'll draw a few comments.
As for a world full of Twaynes, nah, but I could use one or two now and
then.

Cheers,

Twayne
 
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LOL, that's not quite what I intended to convey, but ... close enough!
I'd NEVER think that everyone agreeing with me as saintly; smart maybe, but
not saintly<G>! I'm sure that'll draw a few comments.
As for a world full of Twaynes, nah, but I could use one or two now and
then.

Cheers,

Twayne

--

I have run many cleaners and now Uniblue. I did not pay for the full
cleaning capability (yes, you have to pay) though but did let it
report it's results.

I have my own "clean" registry and several dirty copies that contain
installations of lots of messy things like Visual Studio and SQL
Server which do not always uninstall cleanly. VS is so poor about
uninstalling, MS even has a KB about how to uninstall it to remove all
the miscellaneous stuff it leave behind in the registry. They know it
sucks at uninstalling.

My system runs just fine with all this stuff and it would go unnoticed
if you did not look for it. Things looks like they are uninstalled -
no folders, shortcuts, icons, etc., but there sure is a lot of junk
left behind in the registry. I use these dirty registries to see
which cleaners find and report the most junk correctly and which ones
miss it.

Uniblue is just "okay" at finding things but lacks some features of
others I prefer and also adds it's own entries to the registry that do
not get removed even when you uninstall it. It is unbelievably slack
and creates it's own registry info that does not get removed when you
uninstall it, so it rudely doesn't even cleanup after itself. I had
to say WTF at some of the stuff.

Other deficiencies with Uniblue are, you have one option - clean all.
You cannot click and "go to" the registry value and look at it to
decide if it makes sense or not. You can regedit your way to it from
the report, but that is time consuming. Uniblue missed a lot of
things other cleaners will find. It missed 1834 entries my preferred
inspection tool finds. They are not harmful things but are not
required in the registry. Uniblue is not the worst I have seen
though.

It is like malware canning programs. Nobody knows everything, some
will miss things others pick up.

My system runs fine with my VS and SQL Server "dirty" registry and I
can clean it up using the MS method and a few registry cleaners I can
use will also report the stuff. But the stuff in the registry takes
up space. Smebody has to look at it and decide what to do about it.

I like to find everything and be able to understand it and make my own
decision about what to do about it.

I figure that every thing in the registry that is not needed has to be
processed somehow - loaded, parsed and decided upon sooner or later
and maybe only once, but it takes time. It must take longer to load
and sort through a file with a bunch of junk in it than it does to use
a file that has less stuff in it.

I can follow up cleaning with use an optimizer and also defragment the
registry files and get smaller files - 50% smaller in my example
cases. Take my really dirty registry, clean it up, and it is half the
size. Does a smaller file take less time to process and load?

I am not afraid to try these things because they do not frighten me a
bit. I have never had a bad outcome using any registry cleaner and
can switch in a dirty registry in and out in seconds to test the next
cleaner. I don't know why they have such a bad reputation. I think
folks that have bad experiences inflict the damage on themselves
(usually with the process all buttons). Some cleaners are actually
quite revealing and to me, anything that loads or even needs a
decision about that is not necessary slows my system down.

However, in benchmark testing or boot times, the measurement of system
performance are not significant to the average user. One of the
dirtiest registries I have increases boot time by about 13 seconds
(and that is moderately dirty). But 13 seconds is a long time to me
and I can prove that I can take 13 seconds off a boot time with a
cleaner registry - every time. The dirty one still boots just fine
and the system runs great, but it is just slower to load.

Is it noticeable and worth it? Probably not to the average user, but
I measure things in time and if I can shave off a second or 5 or 10, I
am pleased with the results.

Uniblue - I'll never use it.
 
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