Unable to establish connection btwn XP and 98se machines sharing router

[Dale Ciurczak]

As the subject states, I have been unable to establish a network connection
between XP and 98se machines sharing router and cable internet. Both can
connect to the internet. Ran 127.0.0.1 and ipconfig. Established addresses.
The problem seems to lie in the 98se machine. I ran the XP wizard on the
machine (per XP suggestion). Depending on which attempt I'm on, I'll receive
an "unable to browse" message or the Network Neighborhood never shows
anything in it. I have run the wizard several times and attempted to
establish the network independently by cleaning out all the network
properties and assuring its completion, but it ain't happening. I really
have done a lot of reading and researching. I would appreciate any
suggestions, as people are sending out search parties at this point.

Thanks
Dale

 

[David Dickinson]

XP Home or Pro? There's a big difference in configurability and settings
(you can access the local security policy only on a Pro machine). All
machines should have Client for Microsoft Networks and File and Printer
Sharing installed (get rid of other clients, but disable these items on the
NIC on the XP machine that connects to the Internet). Make sure that
Netbios over TCP/IP is enabled and disable Simple File Sharing on the XP
machine. Make sure that the Win98 machines log on with User IDs and
passwords that the XP machines knows. My bet is that it's the configuration
of the XP machine that is the problem.

Does the XP machine have the firewall enabled on the NIC that connects to
the LAN?

Let us know more about the XP machine and, if you can access it, the Local
Security Policy.

David Dickinson
eis at softhome dot net

 

[Dale Ciurczak]

I am using XP Pro with 98se. I followed the suggestions ("Clients" was
installed, have kept file sharing on XP machine as it goes through router
and has limited files shared (not good?)Netbios on and Simple file sharing
disabled. I can access Local Security Policies.
Able to ping 98se machine from XP, but not XP from 98se. Both ping router
and connect to internet.

 

[David Dickinson]

On the XP machine, you can disable both the Client for Microsoft Networks
and File and Printer Sharing on the NIC that connects to the Internet while
leaving them enabled on the LAN adaptor. Just remove the checkmarks next to
them. I recommend it.

Able to ping 98se machine from XP, but not XP from 98se. Both ping router
and connect to internet.

The fact that you can ping the 98 machines from the XP machine but not vice
versa leads me to suspect that you have a software firewall enabled on the
connection to the LAN. If so, disable it.

Also, on the XP machine's NIC to the LAN, check the Internet Protocol
(TCP/IP) Properties. Click the Advanced button. On the Options tab, if
TCP/IP filtering is enabled then you may have a problem. Those settings
affect all adapters. If you're using filtering for the NIC to the internet,
then the LAN's NIC will also be filtered.

Because of the pinging issue, I don't think it's a security policy problem.

David Dickinson
eis at softhome dot net

 

[Dale Ciurczak]

Well, I worked on the great suggestions you've provided (David and Phil)
1). Disabled both the Client for Microsoft Networks and File and Printer
Sharing on the NIC that connects to the Internet while leaving them enabled
on the LAN adaptor.
2) As you suspected that I may have a software firewall enabled on the
connection to the LAN, I checked this and found this button was not selected
anywhere.
3) On the XP machine's NIC to the LAN, I checked the Internet Protocol
(TCP/IP) Properties. I checked advanced>>> Options tab. TCP/IP filtering
was lit up. I selected properties and the "enable TCP/IP wasn't . The
buttons are set with" permanent all" enabled. I am assuming this was the
correct setting.

The XP (pro)machine can ping the 98se machine but not vice versa. The XP
machine is no longer showing itself or the 98se machine in workgroup
computers. Both still access Internet through routerSome files that remain
shared from the XP computer (when it worked for a week or two) are not
accessible, stating
<<<< \\Laptop1\My Documents>>>> is not accessible. You might not have
permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this
server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not
found.
Thanks for anything thoughts
Dale




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On the XP machine, you can disable both the Client for Microsoft Networks
and File and Printer Sharing on the NIC that connects to the Internet while
leaving them enabled on the LAN adaptor. Just remove the checkmarks next to
them. I recommend it.

Able to ping 98se machine from XP, but not XP from 98se. Both ping router
and connect to internet.

The fact that you can ping the 98 machines from the XP machine but not vice
versa leads me to suspect that you have a software firewall enabled on the
connection to the LAN. If so, disable it.

Also, on the XP machine's NIC to the LAN, check the Internet Protocol
(TCP/IP) Properties. Click the Advanced button. On the Options tab, if
TCP/IP filtering is enabled then you may have a problem. Those settings
affect all adapters. If you're using filtering for the NIC to the internet,
then the LAN's NIC will also be filtered.

Because of the pinging issue, I don't think it's a security policy problem.

David Dickinson
eis at softhome dot net

 

[David Dickinson]

Are you pinging from the Windows 98 machine using the IP address of the XP
machine or its workgroup name?

What changes did you make to the machines just before sharing quit working?

Does anything look suspicious in the Event Log?

David Dickinson
eveningstar at mvps dot org

 

[Dale Ciurczak]

I have been pinging the Win 98 to XP machines with both the IP and Workgroup
address successfully.
I lost the sharing just after I adjusted the Client for Microsoft Network
and File and Printer Sharing. I reinstalled these but the network share
views didnt reappear.
I didn't see anything unusual in the event log.
I am using a Dlink wireless system and still connect great to the internet.
I was speaking with someone who suggested that some DLINK cards ( I have a
DWL G650-c) will have problems with file and print sharing. I swear, I feel
like I've been everywhere but administration rights. I'm getting internet
and sharing, so.....
I may just contact DLINK and if not, take it someplace (I hate to do that,
but its burning me that)
Thanks alot for your help and your patience
Good luck in the future
Dale Ciurczak