transfer xp home to differant computer

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larry jordan

Hello

I purchased a new xp home sp2 full retail ver. and activated it about
sixty days ago. I put it in a old p3 computer , well a family member has
given me a newer p4 computer so now i want to trash the old p3 and put the
xp home in my newer computer. Would some kind person tell me excatly what i
have to do to get this done.

Thanks Much
larry
 
larry jordan said:
Hello

I purchased a new xp home sp2 full retail ver. and activated it about
sixty days ago. I put it in a old p3 computer , well a family member has
given me a newer p4 computer so now i want to trash the old p3 and put the
xp home in my newer computer. Would some kind person tell me excatly what
i have to do to get this done.

Thanks Much
larry

You have to ring Microsoft and explain the situation so that
you can install WinXP on the newer machine.
 
Pegasus said:
You have to ring Microsoft and explain the situation so that
you can install WinXP on the newer machine.

You have to install it on the new machine first and then call MS' phone
judge, jury and prosecutor and state your case. If they believe you,
they will activate it. If they don't, you have the option to sue them,
buy another copy of XP or use some other operating system. You're also
require to uninstall it from the first machine. How you prove you've
done that is beyond me.

Alias
 
Alias said:
You have to install it on the new machine first and then call MS' phone
judge, jury and prosecutor and state your case. If they believe you, they
will activate it. If they don't, you have the option to sue them, buy
another copy of XP or use some other operating system. You're also require
to uninstall it from the first machine. How you prove you've done that is
beyond me.

Alias

I did it myself two weeks ago and had no problem at all.
 
Pegasus said:
I did it myself two weeks ago and had no problem at all.

You still had to state your case to the judge, jury and prosecutor
before you could use your paid for software. You are still presumed
guilty of piracy until you prove your innocence. Don't you see anything
wrong with this? Had the phone operator told you that your copy was
pirated and you had to buy a new copy, would you be happy with this?

Alias
 
Alias said:
You still had to state your case to the judge, jury and prosecutor before
you could use your paid for software. You are still presumed guilty of
piracy until you prove your innocence. Don't you see anything wrong with
this? Had the phone operator told you that your copy was pirated and you
had to buy a new copy, would you be happy with this?

Alias

Let's pretend for a moment that you're running the HelpDesk
for Alias Enterprises, a software company. Let's also pretend
that a stranger rings you to get a new licence code for AliaSoft,
your company's main product, because he wishes to move it
to a different PC. Keeping in mind that you wish to protect
your company's intellectual property, what mechanism would
you propose to deal with the the caller's query in a balanced
manner?
 
Pegasus said:
Let's pretend for a moment that you're running the HelpDesk
for Alias Enterprises, a software company. Let's also pretend
that a stranger rings you to get a new licence code for AliaSoft,
your company's main product, because he wishes to move it
to a different PC. Keeping in mind that you wish to protect
your company's intellectual property, what mechanism would
you propose to deal with the the caller's query in a balanced
manner?

You're assuming I subscribe to the anti piracy theories and the one copy
per PC trip. I don't. I think most people are honest, as evidenced by
the outrageous amount of money MS made without IP protection. I, for
one, bought 95, 98, Me, 2000, Office 97 and Office 2000. I also think
that IP protection is very bad for PR so, if I had a software company,
no one would ever have to call me for activation or have a problem
moving the software to another PC.

The music business is waking up to the fact that DRM is bad for
business. I wonder when Microsoft will.

Alias
 
Alias said:
You're assuming I subscribe to the anti piracy theories and the one copy
per PC trip. I don't. I think most people are honest, as evidenced by the
outrageous amount of money MS made without IP protection. I, for one,
bought 95, 98, Me, 2000, Office 97 and Office 2000. I also think that IP
protection is very bad for PR so, if I had a software company, no one
would ever have to call me for activation or have a problem moving the
software to another PC.

I know from personal experience with some of my
clients that if they can install a product on more than
one machine then they will, regardless of the small
print in the legal stuff. It's human nature. I also hear
that perhaps 90% of all software in China and Russia
is pirated.
 
larry said:
Hello

I purchased a new xp home sp2 full retail ver. and activated it about
sixty days ago. I put it in a old p3 computer , well a family member has
given me a newer p4 computer so now i want to trash the old p3 and put the
xp home in my newer computer. Would some kind person tell me excatly what i
have to do to get this done.

Thanks Much
larry

Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not legitimately
transferable), and assuming that the WinXP license wasn't used to
qualify for a Vista Upgrade license (in which case the WinXP license
became an inseparable part of the Vista license), simply remove WinXP
from the computer it is currently on and then install it on the new
computer. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that
specific Product Key, the you'll most likely be able to activate via the
Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5
minute phone call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm


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Pegasus said:
I know from personal experience with some of my
clients that if they can install a product on more than
one machine then they will, regardless of the small
print in the legal stuff. It's human nature. I also hear
that perhaps 90% of all software in China and Russia
is pirated.

With that theory, MS would have gone broke before XP. Not only didn't
they go broke, they became one of the richest companies with the highest
profit margin in the world. What you've just stated is the usual MS FUD
that doesn't hold water. True, there are some dishonest people in the
world but they are a minority and not worth the cost of phone activation
operators, anti piracy programmers and the lost PR. Removing the anti
piracy programs would also put the crackers and real pirates out of
business.

Alias
 
Alias said:
You still had to state your case to the judge, jury and prosecutor
before you could use your paid for software. You are still presumed
guilty of piracy until you prove your innocence. Don't you see
anything wrong with this? Had the phone operator told you that your
copy was pirated and you had to buy a new copy, would you be happy
with this?

No, of course not. I still have to prove to the usher at the theatre that I
paid my admission by giving him the ticket.

I have to show my receipt at the door to demonstrate I didn't shop-lift
stuff from some retailers.

I must go through metal detectors, etc., at the airport to demonstrate I'm
not a goblin, or at least not a threat goblin.

I have to shoot people to keep them off my property, but that's a different
issue.

Regrettably, as long as there are dishonest people (thieves) and their
enablers (who shall remain nameless) trying to rip off honest folk
(Micros~1), there have to be checks.
 
Alias said:
You're assuming I subscribe to the anti piracy theories and the one
copy per PC trip. I don't. I think most people are honest, as
evidenced by the outrageous amount of money MS made without IP
protection. I, for one, bought 95, 98, Me, 2000, Office 97 and Office
2000. I also think that IP protection is very bad for PR so, if I had
a software company, no one would ever have to call me for activation
or have a problem moving the software to another PC.

Ah, so you DIDN'T buy a license for XP!

So, you either don't have/use XP, in which case why are you posting here, or
you have a pirated copy (which explains your attitude). There is also the
remote possibility that someone likes you so much they gave you a copy as a
gift.
The music business is waking up to the fact that DRM is bad for
business. I wonder when Microsoft will.

It's their business - they can run it however they choose. Your option is,
of course, not to buy their product which is apparantly the choice you made.
 
HeyBub said:
Ah, so you DIDN'T buy a license for XP!

No, I've bought three so far. Where did you get that idea?
So, you either don't have/use XP, in which case why are you posting here, or
you have a pirated copy (which explains your attitude).

I have three copies of XP and use all three and have paid for all three.
Oops. My "attitude" comes from not subscribing to the assumption that
all your paying customers are pirates until they prove otherwise like
Microsoft does.
There is also the
remote possibility that someone likes you so much they gave you a copy as a
gift.


It's their business - they can run it however they choose. Your option is,
of course, not to buy their product which is apparantly the choice you made.

Guessing what people have or have not done is not an exact science to
say the least as you so well prove.

Now, can you address the issues raised or only make up lies about my
persona due to your inability to address the issues?

Alias
 
HeyBub said:
No, of course not. I still have to prove to the usher at the theatre that I
paid my admission by giving him the ticket.

One gets a receipt when one buys MS products.
I have to show my receipt at the door to demonstOne gets a receipt when one buys MS products.rate I didn't shop-lift
stuff from some retailers.

One gets a receipt when one buys MS products.
I must go through metal detectors, etc., at the airport to demonstrate I'm
not a goblin, or at least not a threat goblin.

I'm not suggesting that anyone is trying to sneak on Steve Ballmer's jet.
I have to shoot people to keep them off my property, but that's a different
issue.

Sure is. Why did you bring it up?
Regrettably, as long as there are dishonest people (thieves) and their
enablers (who shall remain nameless) trying to rip off honest folk
(Micros~1), there have to be checks.

Most people are honest as has been proven in spades with the ungodly
money MS made off of Win 95/98/Me/2000 and all prior to Office XP Office
suites.

Alias
 
Hello

I purchased a new xp home sp2 full retail ver. and activated it about
sixty days ago. I put it in a old p3 computer , well a family member has
given me a newer p4 computer so now i want to trash the old p3 and put the
xp home in my newer computer. Would some kind person tell me excatly what
i have to do to get this done.

Thanks Much

Format the old drive that has XP, so it's no longer installed, then install
it on the new computer. When activation is started it won't activate
online, so you'll need to choose the phone activation. It's a short phone
call. Last time I did it was 13 minutes total, and the OP asked one
question, whether it was installed on more than one system.

Contrary to idiotic bull put forth by at least one other in this thread,
it's an easy process.
 
Rock said:
Format the old drive that has XP, so it's no longer installed, then
install it on the new computer. When activation is started it won't
activate online, so you'll need to choose the phone activation. It's a
short phone call. Last time I did it was 13 minutes total, and the OP
asked one question, whether it was installed on more than one system.

Contrary to idiotic bull put forth by at least one other in this thread,
it's an easy process.

It's not a complicated process to be knifed but that doesn't mean it's a
good thing.

Alias
 
Alias said:
No, I've bought three so far. Where did you get that idea?


I have three copies of XP and use all three and have paid for all
three. Oops. My "attitude" comes from not subscribing to the
assumption that all your paying customers are pirates until they
prove otherwise like Microsoft does.


Guessing what people have or have not done is not an exact science to
say the least as you so well prove.

Now, can you address the issues raised or only make up lies about my
persona due to your inability to address the issues?

My apologies. When you said (see above): "I, for one, bought 95, 98, Me,
2000, Office 97 and
Since you claim to have bought three copies of XP, I'll put your distaste
for the whole affair to something else.

Once again, please accept my apologies for lumping you in with the thieves
you only support.
 
Is that 120 day rule (internet activations will work) an official rule
or can someone else at least can verify it works?

You know what I have never understood though? If people at home are
going to be in a position to need access to a fresh installation and
MSFT doesn't want a billion Windows CDs being duplicated then why
don't they set up some kind of service center (like at CompUSA) where
you can get a fresh install for free on the same machine with the same
CD Key put onto it? even charge $10 or something. Of course this may
create other problems . .
 
HeyBub said:
My apologies. When you said (see above): "I, for one, bought 95, 98, Me,
2000, Office 97 and

Since you claim to have bought three copies of XP, I'll put your distaste
for the whole affair to something else.

Once again, please accept my apologies for lumping you in with the thieves
you only support.

The fact that I don't support MS' ineffective anti piracy programs does
not therefore mean I support piracy. I am one of those naive people who
think that most people are honest. I base my conclusion on the fact that
pre XP, MS made billions with unprotected software.

Alias
 
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