Theme shell questions

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Greg R

I was wanting to know if there are any themes or shell program out
their that would make xp look like the kde desktop of Linux.

I know you will say run Linux. I would if my modem worked. I have
tried. Most program I have are windows.

On windows xp the 800 x 600 resolution screen is horrible on my
monitor. However, the Linux version I have no problems with.

On xp I have to use 640x480 most of the time. I do have to change to
800x600 for something I use a program similar to quick resolution.


Greg R
 
Greg said:
I was wanting to know if there are any themes or shell program out
their that would make xp look like the kde desktop of Linux.

I know you will say run Linux. I would if my modem worked. I have
tried. Most program I have are windows.

On windows xp the 800 x 600 resolution screen is horrible on my
monitor. However, the Linux version I have no problems with.

On xp I have to use 640x480 most of the time. I do have to change to
800x600 for something I use a program similar to quick resolution.


Greg R

Getting a new modem is what I'd do, just to be able to run Linux.
 
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
I was wanting to know if there are any themes or shell program out
[there] that would make [Windows] xp look like the kde desktop of Linux.

....you are aware that KDE has a bunch of themes, right? Which KDE theme
do you want to use on 'DozeXP? There's always LiteStep;
http://beyondconvention.net/ohussain/lsinstaller/ . I've never used
that though, since I use Linux on my personal machines and can live with
the default 'Doze2K interface on my work 'Doze machine.
I know you will say "run Linux." I would if my modem worked. I have
tried.

If you're stuck with dialup, you're kind of out of luck period. Once
you try cable/DSL, you won't want to go back. If you have a LoseModem,
you may be out of luck. Some LoseModems work with Linux, some don't.
http://linmodems.org/ is the place to go for information on LoseModems.
Note that 9-pin external modems *always* work with any OS, and have
several advantages over internal modems. External modems have
blinkenlights, you can power-cycle an external modem without
power-cycling the computer, and if your phone line gets hit by
lightning, there's less chance of your motherboard getting fried if the
phone line is plugged into an external modem.

I just checked pricewatch.com and found that you can buy a Lucent
LoseModem for about $6 + shipping. (pricewatch->modems->view ads by
brand->Lucent.) Practically every Lucent LoseModem is supported by
Linux kernel modules available through http://linmodems.org/ . My
last 2 laptops have had built-in Lucent LoseModem, and they've worked
fine in the few times I didn't have a real Net connection.
Most program I have are windows.

So? What is it that you need/want to do? There are lots of Linux
programs out there, covering lots of problem domains. Describe the 5 or
6 programs you use the most on 'Doze, and someone will be able to tell
you what the Linux equivalents are.
On windows xp the 800 x 600 resolution screen is horrible on my
monitor. However, the Linux version I have no problems with. On xp I
have to use 640x480 most of the time. I do have to change to 800x600
for something I use a program similar to quick resolution.

I don't really grok your last sentence. If your monitor can't do at
least 1024x768, it's time for a new monitor. LCDs have driven CRT
prices down a lot; you can get a reasonable 17" CRT for $133+shipping.
 
If you're stuck with dialup, you're kind of out of luck period. Once
you try cable/DSL, you won't want to go back.
That I know is not true. You can buy a serial modem for Linux.


I have a disability that give me headaches if I play games or use 3d
graphics for a long time. First thing I did is add my own theme.
Turn down the brightness and contrast .

I don't like huge Monitors. I would like a 17 Inch monitor. I may
get one.

For example when you install red hat. It starts out with the default
kde Desktop. That what I would like windows xp to look like. This is
why I posted to the xp group and the Linux Group. I know some people
use both system.


Plus you can not get the same program for Linux as you can for
windows. Yes, there are starting to make some more. Plus, I don’t
want to start over.

Greg R
 
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
Fix your newsreader; it's reporting all your mesages have 1 line when
they obviously have more than that. And include more context--context
and attributions restored.
That I know is not true. You can buy a serial modem for Linux.

....the whole paragraph I wrote in Message-ID
(e-mail address removed)202.dyndns.org was:
If you're stuck with dialup, you're kind of out of luck period. Once
you try cable/DSL, you won't want to go back. If you have a
LoseModem, you may be out of luck. Some LoseModems work with Linux
[...] Note that 9-pin external modems *always* work with any OS,

....look at the last line, eh? I suppose I should have clarified "out of
luck, period"--dialup is so slow that using it is a real PITA when
you're used to a faster speed. Reading 7 pages with a cablemodem takes
me ~3 minutes, most of that reading the content. Reading the same 7
pages with dialup takes me ~10 minutes, most of it waiting for the
content to download at 3K/sec. YMMV of course--if you turn off images,
and/or use Firefox AdBlock, things could be faster.
I have a disability that give me headaches if I play games or use 3d
graphics for a long time. First thing I did is add my own theme.
Turn down the brightness and contrast . I don't like huge Monitors.
I would like a 17 Inch monitor.

17" isn't huge in these days of 50" plasma wall-TVs. Disability, check,
you really should've mentioned any unusual conditions in your first
message since that can prevent people from making dumb recommendations.
You can change brightness, contrast, colors, and all that junk for
window manager themes in KDE, and you may be able to do the same thing
in Litestep if there isn't an already-existing low-contrast
low-brightness theme. Have you tried Litestep yet? Do that.
For example when you install red hat. It starts out with the default
kde Desktop. That what I would like windows xp to look like.

Check for a Litestep theme that mimics the default KDE theme, maybe
"Plastik" widgets, "Plastik" colors and "Plastik" style. Later versions
of Redhat may have used a theme called "Bluecurve", so look for
that might be useful to Google as well.
Plus you can not get the same program for Linux as you can for
windows.

Firefox (web browser), Gimp (image editor), ImageMagick (image
utilities), OpenOffice (MS Office replacement, reads/writes MS Office
file formats), openssh (secure remote access to machines running an SSH
server), Perl (scripting language), gvim (text editor), bash (shell),
and a whole bunch of other things are available for both Linux and Win32
platforms. They are all free as in speech and free as in beer. The
ones I mentioned behave similarly on both platforms (well, not really
Perl). You should follow my advice that I posted upthread and quoted
here: Describe the 5 or 6 Windows programs that you use the most, and
someone will be able to tell you what the Free equivalents are.
Yes, there are starting to make some more. Plus, I don't want to
start over.

? You said in your first message that you'd run Linux if your LoseModem
worked with it. Now you say you won't. Indecision, or did you
misspeak?
 
I have a disability that give me headaches if I play games or use 3d
graphics for a long time. First thing I did is add my own theme.
Turn down the brightness and contrast .

You should check that your refresh rate is at least 70 hz in Windows. This is easiest to do if Windows knows
what monitor you are using. Use the control panel if your monitor is not plug-and-play or Windows is too dim
to guess correctly.

Turning down the brightness and contrast is not enough to prevent headaches.


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Sincerely,

Tris Orendorff

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I was wanting to know if there are any themes or shell program out
their that would make xp look like the kde desktop of Linux.

I know you will say run Linux. I would if my modem worked. I have
tried. Most program I have are windows.

On windows xp the 800 x 600 resolution screen is horrible on my
monitor. However, the Linux version I have no problems with.

On xp I have to use 640x480 most of the time. I do have to change to
800x600 for something I use a program similar to quick resolution.


Greg R

bbwin is what you want. Comes in several varieties; I prefer bblean. You
can find plenty of themes at deviantart.com or at
http://box.crackmonkey.us/. Support forum at
http://forums.loose-screws.com.
 
If using the monitor is causing headaches, it ain't the brightness/contrast,
it's the refresh rate. On an CRT, you should be running at least 100 if not
120Mhz refresh rate, plenty fast for your brain not to see the "flicker". I
suffer from extreme migraines, and have since moved to LCD screens, and
although the refresh rate of 75Mhz is slow, LCD's don't flicker like CRT's,
not to mention the increase clarity of the fonts and graphics. I have dual
19" NEC XtraView+, running at 1280x1040 resolution, with 75Mhz refresh rate
and true color. I've downloaded and installed the "ClearType PowerToy" so I
could adjust the font clarity to my liking, and I very rarely, if ever have
had a headache due to reading/viewing on my computer.
As far as the RedHat thing, I run Fedora Core 3 on a totally separate box,
with a screen resolution of 1024x800, but I very seldom use the 21" CRT
connected to it, most of my work is done via VNC, some my window actually
shows up on my Windows 2k3 monitor, as another window to another
application. I use SAMBA to share the Linux Mount Points with my network
(Home Workgroup), but as I said, the mouse, keyboard and monitor on the
Linux box mostly collects dust, at the VNC interface allows me to use the
same mouse, keyboard and monitor to work on both.

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: If using the monitor is causing headaches, it ain't the brightness/contrast,
: it's the refresh rate. On an CRT, you should be running at least 100 if not
: 120Mhz refresh rate, plenty fast for your brain not to see the "flicker". I
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's a darn fast refresh rate!!!

About the best any of my monitors can do is 100 _Hz_ or so.

Stan


PS- for me it is the "blinding white" background that causes headaches.
Even 100 Hz refresh doesn't stop the flicker of a white screen. Dark
backgrounds are fine though even at 60Hz. LCD's are _much_ better also.
 
: If using the monitor is causing headaches, it ain't the brightness/contrast,
: it's the refresh rate. On an CRT, you should be running at least 100 if not
: 120Mhz refresh rate, plenty fast for your brain not to see the "flicker". I
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's a darn fast refresh rate!!!

About the best any of my monitors can do is 100 _Hz_ or so.

PS- for me it is the "blinding white" background that causes headaches.
Even 100 Hz refresh doesn't stop the flicker of a white screen. Dark
backgrounds are fine though even at 60Hz. LCD's are _much_ better also.

We have one client that is one floor lower than the Adelphia network
center in a building with MCI also - they produce so much EMI and RF that
the monitors running at anything above 60hz actually get wavy - even at
120Hz they look bad. When we set them to 60hz or 47hz they looked a lot
better. I had to purchase everyone LCD monitors, since they have a much
slower refresh, to get rid of the problem.
 
Have only 1 CRT left, it does max. 160Hz, running with 85-95 Hz
is usually sufficient for extreme good picture quality. There's
zero "blinding white" as you mention. What monitor is yours and
how old is it?

For text reading LCD are IMHO better, however it depends on the
manufacturer. Likely that a cheapo new LCD does have a better
picture quality then a cheapo CRT.
We have one client that is one floor lower than the Adelphia network
center in a building with MCI also - they produce so much EMI and RF that
the monitors running at anything above 60hz actually get wavy - even at
120Hz they look bad. When we set them to 60hz or 47hz they looked a lot
better. I had to purchase everyone LCD monitors, since they have a much
slower refresh, to get rid of the problem.

LCD/TFT have zero refresh, there's no need, the technical way to
generate the picture differs completely from a CRT. There's
nothing that needs a refresh.
 
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