The first step in learning how to backup my data from XP?

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Could anybody be kind enough to give me a few pointers on the first simple
process of backing up my data on my PC? I am knowing how to burn data to a
CD, but am wondering how others backup data both on their pc and off.

Is there some simple way to backup everything on XP that allows you then
back that up. Instead of laboriously having to backup each and every file

In Summary is there a simpler way than that which I am currently doing it at
the moment which is: Basically manually copy everything I want to a file
labelled bakup, and burning it to a CD, is this the most simple and best way
to backup data?

Thanks in advance and any suggestions or tips appreciated
 
You have several choices, All of your personal data, such as Mail, My
Documents, IE Favorites are stored in a Profile. Profiles are stored on
XP in C:\Documents and Settings\'YourLoginName'
Depending on how much content you have, you could login to another
account and simply burn that entire profile to a CD-R. You can't burn
the data while that user is logged in since XP has the files/folders open
for use. I do recommend that users do a simple backup of Personal data
in a readable format. This way if something needs to be recovered it is
simple to insert the CD/DVD and do a direct copy.
Alternately, you can use an Imaging program to make a full system image.
This not only backs up your data, but your entire XP install. Imaging is
useful since it protects 100% of your setup. Say your disk drive fails. If
you use imaging, you could install a replacement drive and restore your
last image set to it. Process takes less than 30-minutes and you are back
up and running.
If you wanted to take it to a more segmented level then you would want
multiple partitions. A C:\ drive with Windows and applications. A D:\
drive that only holds your personal data. Then you would simply burn a
CD/DVD of D:\ on a regular schedule. Also, use Imaging to protect the
XP install. Doing this requires re-directing your profile paths for My Docs
and other personal folders to the D:\ Drive. This can be done fairly easy
with Tweak-UI for Windows XP.
In my own case, I use segmented data and take it a little further. Since
I have 11 Gigabytes of Music I have a dedicated drive in my system for
storing that data by itself.
Whatever method you use - Always verify the backups/images. For a
simple CD/DVD burn eject the disk and re-insert and explore it to make
sure the data is intact and readable. For Images use the programs verify
function to not only write the Image, but make a verification pass.
Nothing is worse than thinking you have a "Valid" backup and when you
go to use it find out the data wasn't written correctly.
 
Hi,

Sounds to me like you already have the first steps, you just want to make it
easier. I prefer to just do images of the various system volumes, but I
still do monthly backups of frequently changed store folders (like the
digital photos). However I don't do a backup file and then burn the backup,
I just drag & drop the entire folder onto a new CD (they're cheap, so I just
create periodic new ones rather than selectively adding to an existing one).

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
Backup and Recovery go hand in glove.

One performs a backup to prevent loss when files are accidentally deleted or
if the hard drive fails.

To recover from deleted files can be performed if one makes a copy of all
files and simply 'copies' the deleted file back to the folder on the HDD.

One could also use Windows Backup / Restore to achieve the same result.
However the backup image will be as large as the source [so all your
documents, emails, MP3s etc can easily exceed the capacity of a CD ROM -
around 700Mb - or DVD ROM - 4 to 6 Gb] and you may need to copy this across
to a second HDD to ensure enough capacity.

To recover from a HDD failure is another series of issues.

In order to recover an entire 'System' [the full compliment of Operating
System, Application SOfwtare and Personal Files and Settings], in the
shortest possible time would require a small investment in Hardware and
Software. 1. Buy an External USB HDD or a second HDD to connect internally
if space allows. 2. Buy a Disk Imaging Applocation such as Norton Ghost.

Ghost permits one to Image the entire contents of a HDD to another HDD or
Partition.

Should you ever suffer a catastrophe and loose you Windows System, or have
it so corrupted by Virus or Spyware, then you can use the Ghost Image to
recover the image file back to your C Drive [takes about 1/2 hr for a 100Gb
drive; compared with 6 to 10 hours required to reinstall XP all applications
and then recreating the user settings, network settings etc etc.].

If the C Drive fails, then buy a replacement drive and reimage from the
Ghost Image.

I use this Ghost process for all the SOHO and small business PCs that I
support: it's inexpensive and saves lots of productive time when recovering
from a HDD failure.
 
Could anybody be kind enough to give me a few pointers on the first simple
process of backing up my data on my PC? I am knowing how to burn data to a
CD, but am wondering how others backup data both on their pc and off.

Is there some simple way to backup everything on XP that allows you then
back that up. Instead of laboriously having to backup each and every file

In Summary is there a simpler way than that which I am currently doing it at
the moment which is: Basically manually copy everything I want to a file
labelled bakup, and burning it to a CD, is this the most simple and best way
to backup data?

Thanks in advance and any suggestions or tips appreciated

What you are thinking of is called incremental backup. Most backup
programs allow this. You can back up a single file, or a few
files, to your existing complete backup.

I don't use it. Too complicated, too much chance of screwing
something up when you need it the most. I've tried every kind of
backup there is, and this is what I've learned.

Forget about the backup program that comes with Windows XP. It is
not very good. Forget about restore points. They chew up a sorry
amount of hard drive space and don't do what you want when you
need them. They aren't a replacement for a backup program in any
case. I suggest turning restore off entirely.

The best backup is a compressed mirror image of the entire boot
drive. Put your important files on the boot drive, and regularly
back the entire thing up using either Drive Image or Ghost.
Recently Symantic bought out Drive Image, so Ghost is the only
player, although you can still get old copies of Drive Image 7, as
I did.

Don't bother backing up to tape or CDs or DVDs, they are too damn
slow and too awkward. Back up to another hard drive, either
internal or external. External drives have the advantage that you
can turn them off or remove them, making it less likely they will
get infected with a virus. They have the disadvantage of being
slower to write to or read from.

For me, using Drive Image, a full compressed backup of my C drive,
which presently has 42.5 gigs on it, takes under half an hour. I
make rotating backups, so that if the last one is corrupted by a
virus, the previous one is likely to be clean.

I also back up my data files, uncompressed, to folders on a second
internal hard drive as I create them. That is, important files get
backed up when they get saved. This prevents loss of data due to
the backup mirror being out of date. Sure, it's a bit of work to
do this manually, but you always know what is happening that way.

At irregular intervals, it's not a bad idea to burn a mirror of
your drive to a set of DVDs, just to have an external backup to go
to if all your internal drives are corrupted or destroyed or lost
for some reason. I do this, but don't do it that frequently, since
flipping DVD disks is a chore. Rewritable DVDs are best for this.
 
R. McCarty said:
You have several choices, All of your personal data, such as Mail, My
Documents, IE Favorites are stored in a Profile. Profiles are stored on
XP in C:\Documents and Settings\'YourLoginName'
Depending on how much content you have, you could login to another
account and simply burn that entire profile to a CD-R. You can't burn
the data while that user is logged in since XP has the files/folders open
for use. I do recommend that users do a simple backup of Personal data
in a readable format. This way if something needs to be recovered it is
simple to insert the CD/DVD and do a direct copy.
Alternately, you can use an Imaging program to make a full system image.
This not only backs up your data, but your entire XP install. Imaging is
useful since it protects 100% of your setup. Say your disk drive fails. If
you use imaging, you could install a replacement drive and restore your
last image set to it. Process takes less than 30-minutes and you are back
up and running.
If you wanted to take it to a more segmented level then you would want
multiple partitions. A C:\ drive with Windows and applications. A D:\
drive that only holds your personal data. Then you would simply burn a
CD/DVD of D:\ on a regular schedule. Also, use Imaging to protect the
XP install. Doing this requires re-directing your profile paths for My
Docs
and other personal folders to the D:\ Drive. This can be done fairly easy
with Tweak-UI for Windows XP.
In my own case, I use segmented data and take it a little further. Since
I have 11 Gigabytes of Music I have a dedicated drive in my system for
storing that data by itself.
Whatever method you use - Always verify the backups/images. For a
simple CD/DVD burn eject the disk and re-insert and explore it to make
sure the data is intact and readable. For Images use the programs verify
function to not only write the Image, but make a verification pass.
Nothing is worse than thinking you have a "Valid" backup and when you
go to use it find out the data wasn't written correctly.
Actually this is a quick thankyou to all who wrote here, I'm actually having
read a few replies, but to be honest htey are quite deep, I mean not deep
and meaninful in a philsophical and meditative kind of way, but deep in as
much as I have to dig deeper to understand it, but I know what your talking
about and will post separately to find out more and do some research on
googling, but it seems you guys have the answer here.

Herin lies the answer to my system. For someone like me, a power user, it is
valable to save data from corruption and valuable in case of having to
reinstall the operating system
 
Rick "Nutcase" Rogers said:
Hi,

Sounds to me like you already have the first steps, you just want to make
it easier. I prefer to just do images of the various system volumes, but I
still do monthly backups of frequently changed store folders (like the
digital photos). However I don't do a backup file and then burn the
backup, I just drag & drop the entire folder onto a new CD (they're cheap,
so I just create periodic new ones rather than selectively adding to an
existing one).

--
Thanks for the tips, I think I am managing but people seem to be using
"imaging" this is the sytem where people just copy an entire disc
then store it on another partition.

I would like to know if you can do this for an entire operating system
also...

the thought of not having to install windows is pretty powerful
 
Hi,

I image the volume containing the operating system on a regular basis.
Haven't had to reinstall the operating system yet, but I have had to restore
an image three times (not because Windows screwed up, but because I did -
sort of on purpose). I use the same program as comes with Image for Windows
at www.terabyteunlimited.com

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
Rick "Nutcase" Rogers said:
Hi,

I image the volume containing the operating system on a regular basis.
Haven't had to reinstall the operating system yet, but I have had to
restore an image three times (not because Windows screwed up, but because
I did - sort of on purpose). I use the same program as comes with Image
for Windows at www.terabyteunlimited.com

Hi Rick

So you mean you just can "copy" the entire operating system, and transplant
it perfectly without having to actually install it?

Thats my understanding and it must save a huge amount of time.
 
Hi,

It's an exact copy of the existing system, and if I munge the current
installation, I simply wipe it and replace it with the image.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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