text formatting....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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I'm not sure if this will help, but I always have Notepad open when I'm
copying text from one Microsoft product to another.

Microsoft products try to retain the original formatting of the source you
are copying from, which can be unbelievably annoying.

I copy and paste into Notepad (which strips all formatting) and then copy
from Notepad to paste into the target application. It's an extra step, which
isn't great, but it's a quick way to loose the formatting, and works fine if
you aren't doing too much C/P work.
 
ekimosis said:
Im trying to copy this linked text. As you can see the words are
different sizes
and different distances between the. I can not figure out how to do
it
and its driving me crazy! help!

<img src="http://thunder-lizard.com/otherstuff/ch_words.jpg">


http://thunder-lizard.com/otherstuff/ch_words.jpg
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f it's a graphic. you'll have to save it that way, and it can't be
edited by a text editor. If it's text, press Crtl/A to select all,
Ctrl/C to copy, Ctrl/V to paste to a WP program. It you paste text to
an HTML editor, the special formatting, text size and fonts should be
remembered.
 
This is a print on a shirt. I am trying to duplicate it in WORD. See
how they have the spacing "justified"....trying to figure out how to
do exacvtly what they did.
 
Have you tried the experts in the Word newsgroups?

| This is a print on a shirt. I am trying to duplicate it in WORD. See
| how they have the spacing "justified"....trying to figure out how to
| do exacvtly what they did.
|
|
|
| > ekimosis wrote:
| > > Im trying to copy this linked text. As you can see the words are
| > > different sizes
| > > and different distances between the. I can not figure out how to do
| > > it
| > > and its driving me crazy! help!
| >
| > > <img src="http://thunder-lizard.com/otherstuff/ch_words.jpg">
| >
| > >http://thunder-lizard.com/otherstuff/ch_words.jpg
| >
| > f it's a graphic. you'll have to save it that way, and it can't be
| > edited by a text editor. If it's text, press Crtl/A to select all,
| > Ctrl/C to copy, Ctrl/V to paste to a WP program. It you paste text to
| > an HTML editor, the special formatting, text size and fonts should be
| > remembered.
| >
| > --
| > Joe =o)
|
|
 
Look up "Justify" in Word Help.
This is a print on a shirt. I am trying to duplicate it in WORD. See
how they have the spacing "justified"....trying to figure out how to
do exacvtly what they did.
Click to expand...
 
ekimosis said:
This is a print on a shirt. I am trying to duplicate it in WORD. See
how they have the spacing "justified"....trying to figure out how to
do exacvtly what they did.
Click to expand...

It's essentially impossible to exactly copy the appearance of an image
of text. You would have to know the exact font that was used, the
printer that was used, and the margins that were used. If the person
who originally created the text was more creative than usual, you might
also have to know line spacing and other formatting characteristics.

That said, you might be able to approximate the look if you can find a
font that is similar to that used on the shirt. In MS Word, the effect
of having "different spaces between the words" is called "justified",
which simply means that each line goes all the way to the margins on
both sides -- if the line is long enough to fill the space between the
margins. You find this under Format | Paragraph.

As an example, I typed the following (without hitting any carriage
return/enter) in a Word document with 1 inch left and right margins
using Times New Roman.

ONCE AGAIN YOU EXPECT US TO BELIEVE YOUR LIES BUT I’VE REMOVED THE
BLINDFOLD YOU PUT ACROSS MY EYES I CAN NO LONGER SIT BACK

I set Paragraph Alignment to "Justified" and selected all of the text
and made it bold. I then selected the first 5 words and increased the
font size until the S of US was at the right margin. In my case, this
required a 31 point font. I did the same for each of the following
lines (from the shirt). This resulted in 36 point font for the second
line, 25 point for the third line, 34 for the fourth line, and 33 for
the fifth.

In my opinion, it looks silly that way.

If you want all of the words in the same size font, insert a "forced new
line" at the end of every line (Shift+Enter). If you do this, the
maximum font size is determined by the longest line (BUT I’VE REMOVED
THE BLINDFOLD) and there will be fairly large spaces between the words,
especially in the shortest line (TO BELIEVE YOUR LIES).

I don't think there's any other way to do what you want, but if you want
more expert advice, post your question in one of the MS Word newsgroups.
Go here and look: http://www.aumha.org/nntp.htm
 
ekimosis said:
Im trying to copy this linked text. As you can see the words are
different sizes
and different distances between the. I can not figure out how to do
it
and its driving me crazy! help!

http://thunder-lizard.com/otherstuff/ch_words.jpg
Click to expand...
HELP!
Click to expand...

Hi ekimosis

Just tried this in my ancient Word 2000; if you have a newer version,
the controls might be in a different place or have a different name, but
it should work.

1. Type the text, ending each line with a soft return (Shift+Enter).
Highlight the whole thing and click the Justify button on the toolbar.

2. Change the typeface to whatever you wish and increase the size until
it's as big as you want it -- don't worry if some lines break for now.
The shorter lines will have ugly too-big spaces between words.

3. Now look at the longest line ("Everything that surrounds me is a
lie"). This one is the most important. Swipe it to highlight,
right-click and choose Font. . .| Character Spacing tab. In the Scale
box experiment with different figures until you get it to fit across the
width of your page, box or whatever in one line and with reasonable
space between words. You don't have to stick to the pre-set numbers; you
can type your own percentages in there. I found I needed 80%.

4. Do the same to each of the other lines in turn. Some will need
expanding, some compressing. Keep the scale percentage as high as you
can without the text breaking and keeping the word spacing in harmony
with the wider or narrower letters. I just set the text across an A4
page and, as a guide, I scaled "to believe your lies" to 160%.

Hope this helps :-)
 
It appears to be standard New Times.

The reason it appears to be different
sizes is that "full" justification
was used when the paragraph
was created.

"Left justification" is
normally the default mode for
printing standard verbiage.

By adding a letter or two to
a line, the words will squeeze
together. Conversely removing a letter
or two the words will be distributed loosely
and "fully justified" from margin to margin.

Your word pad or other word processor and
outlook provide the left, right, center and
full text justification options.


- db
Im trying to copy this linked text. As you can see the words are
different sizes
and different distances between the. I can not figure out how to do
it
and its driving me crazy! help!

<img src="http://thunder-lizard.com/otherstuff/ch_words.jpg">


http://thunder-lizard.com/otherstuff/ch_words.jpg


HELP!
 
The reason it appears to be different
sizes is that "full" justification
was used when the paragraph
was created. [...]
By adding a letter or two to
a line, the words will squeeze
together.  Conversely removing a letter
or two the words will be distributed loosely
and "fully justified" from margin to margin.
Click to expand...

In a word processor, setting full justified alone wouldn't achieve the
effect the OP is seeking, db. Spaces between words would vary but the
width of the characters wouldn't be affected.

Look at the three consecutive lines beginning "These are" in ekimosis'
link ( http://thunder-lizard.com/otherstuff/ch_words.jpg ), then try
setting them full justified in Word:

These are your standards
These are your ideas
These are your morals

It won't look the same. Your three sets of "These" will all be the same
width. What the original setter has done is justify, then
expand/compress character width to make each line fit without excess
space between words.

In a typesetting program you can set limits on how much
squishing/expanding is allowed. I used to spend a lot of time trying to
avoid this effect, LOL.
 
Yes, that is interesting. I didn't take
a really good look at the original
pic as I thought it to be something
of a whine. However your attention to detail is
excellent.

If it is not an optical
illusion, then a graphics software
was likely used to create the distortions.
Another clue is that the statement is an image.

A graphics software is what was
likely used to distort the graphical
representation of the text
characters and statement.

After each line was typed out, the
graphics program converted the lines
into a rectangular image. Then after
creating a multitude of rectangles,
neatly together vertical wise, each
line was either squeezed in or
stretched out to make
a square image.

It seems that the creator
wanted to fill up a viewing
area and left no room
for spaces or discussion.

Maybe one of those emotional outbursts
that requires a swipe across
the cheek to gain a little
piece n quiet. My guess it is
the ramblings of a 16 year old.
Fortunately, there is "myspace"
now.

I suppose with a little shadowing,
the words and the statement
could have appeared to be
"carved in stone"...

- db
The reason it appears to be different
sizes is that "full" justification
was used when the paragraph
was created. [...]
By adding a letter or two to
a line, the words will squeeze
together. Conversely removing a letter
or two the words will be distributed loosely
and "fully justified" from margin to margin.
Click to expand...

In a word processor, setting full justified alone wouldn't achieve the
effect the OP is seeking, db. Spaces between words would vary but the
width of the characters wouldn't be affected.

Look at the three consecutive lines beginning "These are" in ekimosis'
link ( http://thunder-lizard.com/otherstuff/ch_words.jpg ), then try
setting them full justified in Word:

These are your standards
These are your ideas
These are your morals

It won't look the same. Your three sets of "These" will all be the same
width. What the original setter has done is justify, then
expand/compress character width to make each line fit without excess
space between words.

In a typesetting program you can set limits on how much
squishing/expanding is allowed. I used to spend a lot of time trying to
avoid this effect, LOL.
 
Maybe one of those emotional outbursts
that requires a swipe across
the cheek to gain a little
piece n quiet. My guess it is
the ramblings of a 16 year old.
Fortunately, there is "myspace"
now.
Click to expand...

ROFL! Good one, db. . .
 
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