Task Manager and Remote Desktop

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How does one open the taskmanager on a XPe Device while remoting in with
Remote Desktop? Ctr Alt Del opens the task manager on the local machine
instead of the remote machine?

Richard
 
Thanks, but there is no Desktop and no task bar and no task manager.

For an example, during development, say the target application locks up, If
there is a local keyboard, I can do Control Alt Del and the window comes up
so I can click on log off or restart.

Sure, I could do this from the custom shell, problem is when the application
locks up, I can't get to the shell. I was simply trying to figure out how
to do that key sequence remotely.

Previous suggestions do not work.

Richard
 
How does one open the taskmanager on a XPe Device while remoting in withI am not a specialist in 'terminal services' by Microsoft, but there are
alternatives on remote screen&keyboard control.
Consider using Radmin by
http://radmin.com/?lang_ui=en
It allows you to send Ctrl+Alt+Del sequence remotely, replacing it with
Ctrl+Alt+F12
I use it everyday to control my NT4 server, and I am sure it will work
on XPe

Igor
 
Igor,

Although I love and use RAdmin all the time here, it has known issues and the worse one (in my opinion) on XP is the bug around Fast
User Switching. This is just to say that there may be some problems with the software on Winlogon images.
Also, AFAIK, RAdmin license will const some noticeable fees for mass production devices. They don't seem to support tier pricing.

Anyway, if the idea is supported I'd vote for RAdmin 2.1/2.2 - fast, small footprint server. RAdmin 3.0 will rather bring too much
dependencies.
 
Richard,

How about using parameters of RDP file to launch the app (taskmgr) on remote logon? (e.g., alternate shell parameter)
If acceptable, if your app locks up, you disconnect the session and create a new one that will launch the Task Manager.

Or have a target local agent that checks periodically if your shell app is locked up and if so, bring the taskmgr.
 
Thanks, but there is no Desktop and no task bar and no task manager.
Maybe you can associate some keyboard shortcut with executing the task
manager program?
Better yet, use this program
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml
as a replacement to the standard task manager. It is more powerful and
AFAIK gives you the possibility to kill process even when the standard
just says 'access denied'. It is a good possibility when dealing with
hanging services.

Igor
 
Konstantin,

Thank you for your comment on Radmin use on XPe.
I haven't tried it yet :) but was going to do so.
I wasn't able to turn RDP on my test computer (didn't try much anyway)
By reading some answers on this NG I've come to the conclusion this
maybe because of empty administrator password.

To answer the original question - is there a way in RDP client to send
Ctrl+Alt+Del sequence to the remote computer?

Igor
 
Igor,
To answer the original question - is there a way in RDP client to send
Ctrl+Alt+Del sequence to the remote computer?
Click to expand...

Well.. If that would be a Winlogon/Explorer Shell image, the easiest way to bring up the Task Manager while having an full screen
mode RDP session active would be to press Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-End. (according to MS documentation in RDP
Ctrl-Alt-Esc=Ctrl-Alt-Del which is not exactly true).
However, Richard mentioned that "there is no Desktop and no task bar and no task manager". So I am not sure about the thread subject
any more.

Or, as I already mentioned earlier, he may disconnect the session with the hanging application and launch another RDP session with
the alternative shell setting set to whatever recovery application is needed. The recovery application can do anything as it is
going to be launched remotely on the target. It could be a task manager (MS or any 3rd party), a simple app to send Ctrl-Alt-Del
sequence or just a call to reboot, etc.

Konstantin
 
Just got a couple more ideas on how to work around the hanging shell app over RDP problem:

- Create another application to monitor RDP session disconnection on the target device.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/e...ng_session_connections_and_disconnections.asp

If user feels that the shell app is hung on the remote machine, he can disconnect and that will trigger the monitoring app
that can do anything (e.g., restart the shell app).

- Create and register a virtual channel server application (an app that runs on the target device)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/e.../using_terminal_services_virtual_channels.asp

This is most flexible approach but will require a client dll on the connecting side (basically, just the mstsc.exe wouldn't be
enough). Although, with some custom GUI app or Remote Desktop ActiveX control this is easy to implement and deploy.
A custom data (signal) can be sent to the channel by the client dll if the shell app is hung on the server. This way
implementing a Ctrl-Alt-Del substitute is simple.

KM
 
Richard said:
*How does one open the taskmanager on a XPe Device while remoting in
with
Remote Desktop? Ctr Alt Del opens the task manager on the local
machine
instead of the remote machine?

Richard *
Click to expand...

ctl alt end
 
The CTRL-ALT-DEL can be enabled for both the desktop and the Remote Desktop. Check the Option settings to enable this feature.


Regards,

Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
XP Embedded Book Author - XP Embedded Advanced, XP Embedded Supplemental Toolkit
 
I am also having the same problem.

i do not have the explorer. i can not get the task manager also.
1.If i type the Cntrl+Alt+Del it goes to the local machine.
2.since the explorer is not there, i can not get the
windows-->start-->run menu also.
3.i can not get the task pan also.

i need the run the explorer in the remote client.
or i just need to log off or restart the remote machine.

i am using the citrix client s/w to access the RDP machine.

Can any one help..
 
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