Wesley Vogel said:You have them backwards.
System idle process and user inactivity have nothing to do with each other.
System idle process is a percentage of the CPU resources that are not being
used by the system. Inactivity, as related to Screensavers and Scheduled
Tasks, is when there is no user input. I.e. keyboard or mouse have not been
used for a period of time by the user.
[[System idle process
The System Idle Process is a process in the Microsoft Windows
operating system that displays, as a percentage, how much CPU resources are
"idle" and available for use at any given time. The name of this "process"
may be a misnomer, however, as the System Idle Process is more of a counter
and less of a process that actually uses the resource percentage that it
displays.]]
http://www.answers.com/topic/system-idle-process
From Scheduled Tasks Help...
[[To run a scheduled task when the computer is idle
1. Open Scheduled Tasks.
2. Right-click the task that you want to run when the computer is idle, and
then click Properties.
3. On the Settings tab, under Idle Time, select the Only start the task if
the computer has been idle for at least check box.
4. Enter the length of time (in minutes) for which the computer must be idle
before the task will run.
Notes
To open Scheduled Tasks, click Start, click All Programs, point to
Accessories, point to System Tools, and then click Scheduled Tasks.
A computer is idle when there is no mouse or keyboard activity.
You can specify a length of time (in minutes) in which the computer attempts
to find idle time to run the scheduled task.
You can also specify that any task should be stopped if the computer is in
use by selecting the Stop the task if the computer ceases to be idle check
box. ]]
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
InDrew said:Any chance you can break down the inactivity timer more....for instance I
know that the System Idle monitor the list below, but what does the
inactivity timer exactly monitor
1. There is no user input (keyboard and mouse)
2. The CPU and disk usage is less then 10 percent
3. The system is not running on battery power
4. Presentation programs (such as a Slide show or movie playback) are not
running.
Drew said:Take a look at KB article q310601. At the bottom of the first page it
describes The System Idle Task Scheduler service.....
By reading this, I'm assuming that if I create a scheduled task to run
after 3 hours of being Idle, and during that time, the CPU usages spikes,
maybe because WSUS has downloaded a patch, that the Idle time clock will
reset....
What do you think?
Wesley Vogel said:You have them backwards.
System idle process and user inactivity have nothing to do with each
other. System idle process is a percentage of the CPU resources that are
not being used by the system. Inactivity, as related to Screensavers
and Scheduled Tasks, is when there is no user input. I.e. keyboard or
mouse have not been used for a period of time by the user.
[[System idle process
The System Idle Process is a process in the Microsoft Windows
operating system that displays, as a percentage, how much CPU resources
are "idle" and available for use at any given time. The name of this
"process" may be a misnomer, however, as the System Idle Process is more
of a counter and less of a process that actually uses the resource
percentage that it displays.]]
http://www.answers.com/topic/system-idle-process
From Scheduled Tasks Help...
[[To run a scheduled task when the computer is idle
1. Open Scheduled Tasks.
2. Right-click the task that you want to run when the computer is idle,
and then click Properties.
3. On the Settings tab, under Idle Time, select the Only start the task
if the computer has been idle for at least check box.
4. Enter the length of time (in minutes) for which the computer must be
idle before the task will run.
Notes
To open Scheduled Tasks, click Start, click All Programs, point to
Accessories, point to System Tools, and then click Scheduled Tasks.
A computer is idle when there is no mouse or keyboard activity.
You can specify a length of time (in minutes) in which the computer
attempts to find idle time to run the scheduled task.
You can also specify that any task should be stopped if the computer is
in use by selecting the Stop the task if the computer ceases to be idle
check box. ]]
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
InDrew said:Any chance you can break down the inactivity timer more....for instance
I know that the System Idle monitor the list below, but what does the
inactivity timer exactly monitor
1. There is no user input (keyboard and mouse)
2. The CPU and disk usage is less then 10 percent
3. The system is not running on battery power
4. Presentation programs (such as a Slide show or movie playback) are
not running.
:
System Idle covers the machine's internals.. inactivity timer logs
operator down time..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Hello,
Would anyone be able to explain the difference between
1. System Idle time, that the Task Scheduler uses
2. Inactivity timer, that the screen saver uses
Thanks
Wesley Vogel said:From Scheduled Tasks Help...
[[A computer is idle when there is no mouse or keyboard activity.]]
User idle time and system idle time are not the same thing.
Your scheduled task has nothing to do with The System Idle Task Scheduler
service.
The System Idle Task Scheduler service schedules SYSTEM maintenance tasks,
the disk layout task, the system restore task and the Help services and data
collection task. The System Idle Task Scheduler service does not run your
scheduled tasks, the Task Scheduler service runs your tasks.
Just like Microsoft to use similar names for different things.
[[Windows XP is designed to automatically perform maintenance tasks to
improve performance and reliability. When your computer is on AC power and
is idle, system maintenance tasks may be able to run for a few minutes.
These system maintenance tasks include disk-layout optimization to improve
performance and preparing automatic system restoration points to increase
reliability. Typically, these tasks occur the first time you leave your
computer idle after you start it. These tasks ensure that the system
maintains its performance and reliability even after long use. Because these
tasks involve reading and writing to the hard disk, the hard disk idle time
is reset regularly during this maintenance period.]]
Hard Disks Do Not Turn Off After Your Computer Has Been Idle
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313300
Windows XP does not enter standby after the exact period that is configured
in the Power Options profile
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899975/
Computer does not enter standby mode if Power Options profile is set to
standby after 45 or more minutes
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310601
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
InDrew said:Take a look at KB article q310601. At the bottom of the first page it
describes The System Idle Task Scheduler service.....
By reading this, I'm assuming that if I create a scheduled task to run
after 3 hours of being Idle, and during that time, the CPU usages spikes,
maybe because WSUS has downloaded a patch, that the Idle time clock will
reset....
What do you think?
Wesley Vogel said:You have them backwards.
System idle process and user inactivity have nothing to do with each
other. System idle process is a percentage of the CPU resources that are
not being used by the system. Inactivity, as related to Screensavers
and Scheduled Tasks, is when there is no user input. I.e. keyboard or
mouse have not been used for a period of time by the user.
[[System idle process
The System Idle Process is a process in the Microsoft Windows
operating system that displays, as a percentage, how much CPU resources
are "idle" and available for use at any given time. The name of this
"process" may be a misnomer, however, as the System Idle Process is more
of a counter and less of a process that actually uses the resource
percentage that it displays.]]
http://www.answers.com/topic/system-idle-process
From Scheduled Tasks Help...
[[To run a scheduled task when the computer is idle
1. Open Scheduled Tasks.
2. Right-click the task that you want to run when the computer is idle,
and then click Properties.
3. On the Settings tab, under Idle Time, select the Only start the task
if the computer has been idle for at least check box.
4. Enter the length of time (in minutes) for which the computer must be
idle before the task will run.
Notes
To open Scheduled Tasks, click Start, click All Programs, point to
Accessories, point to System Tools, and then click Scheduled Tasks.
A computer is idle when there is no mouse or keyboard activity.
You can specify a length of time (in minutes) in which the computer
attempts to find idle time to run the scheduled task.
You can also specify that any task should be stopped if the computer is
in use by selecting the Stop the task if the computer ceases to be idle
check box. ]]
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
In Drew <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Any chance you can break down the inactivity timer more....for instance
I know that the System Idle monitor the list below, but what does the
inactivity timer exactly monitor
1. There is no user input (keyboard and mouse)
2. The CPU and disk usage is less then 10 percent
3. The system is not running on battery power
4. Presentation programs (such as a Slide show or movie playback) are
not running.
:
System Idle covers the machine's internals.. inactivity timer logs
operator down time..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Hello,
Would anyone be able to explain the difference between
1. System Idle time, that the Task Scheduler uses
2. Inactivity timer, that the screen saver uses
Thanks
Wesley Vogel said:From Scheduled Tasks Help...
[[A computer is idle when there is no mouse or keyboard activity.]]
User idle time and system idle time are not the same thing.
Your scheduled task has nothing to do with The System Idle Task Scheduler
service.
The System Idle Task Scheduler service schedules SYSTEM maintenance tasks,
the disk layout task, the system restore task and the Help services and data
collection task. The System Idle Task Scheduler service does not run your
scheduled tasks, the Task Scheduler service runs your tasks.
Just like Microsoft to use similar names for different things.
[[Windows XP is designed to automatically perform maintenance tasks to
improve performance and reliability. When your computer is on AC power and
is idle, system maintenance tasks may be able to run for a few minutes.
These system maintenance tasks include disk-layout optimization to improve
performance and preparing automatic system restoration points to increase
reliability. Typically, these tasks occur the first time you leave your
computer idle after you start it. These tasks ensure that the system
maintains its performance and reliability even after long use. Because these
tasks involve reading and writing to the hard disk, the hard disk idle time
is reset regularly during this maintenance period.]]
Hard Disks Do Not Turn Off After Your Computer Has Been Idle
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313300
Windows XP does not enter standby after the exact period that is configured
in the Power Options profile
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899975/
Computer does not enter standby mode if Power Options profile is set to
standby after 45 or more minutes
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310601
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
InDrew said:Take a look at KB article q310601. At the bottom of the first page it
describes The System Idle Task Scheduler service.....
By reading this, I'm assuming that if I create a scheduled task to run
after 3 hours of being Idle, and during that time, the CPU usages spikes,
maybe because WSUS has downloaded a patch, that the Idle time clock will
reset....
What do you think?
Wesley Vogel said:You have them backwards.
System idle process and user inactivity have nothing to do with each
other. System idle process is a percentage of the CPU resources that are
not being used by the system. Inactivity, as related to Screensavers
and Scheduled Tasks, is when there is no user input. I.e. keyboard or
mouse have not been used for a period of time by the user.
[[System idle process
The System Idle Process is a process in the Microsoft Windows
operating system that displays, as a percentage, how much CPU resources
are "idle" and available for use at any given time. The name of this
"process" may be a misnomer, however, as the System Idle Process is more
of a counter and less of a process that actually uses the resource
percentage that it displays.]]
http://www.answers.com/topic/system-idle-process
From Scheduled Tasks Help...
[[To run a scheduled task when the computer is idle
1. Open Scheduled Tasks.
2. Right-click the task that you want to run when the computer is idle,
and then click Properties.
3. On the Settings tab, under Idle Time, select the Only start the task
if the computer has been idle for at least check box.
4. Enter the length of time (in minutes) for which the computer must be
idle before the task will run.
Notes
To open Scheduled Tasks, click Start, click All Programs, point to
Accessories, point to System Tools, and then click Scheduled Tasks.
A computer is idle when there is no mouse or keyboard activity.
You can specify a length of time (in minutes) in which the computer
attempts to find idle time to run the scheduled task.
You can also specify that any task should be stopped if the computer is
in use by selecting the Stop the task if the computer ceases to be idle
check box. ]]
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
In Drew <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Any chance you can break down the inactivity timer more....for instance
I know that the System Idle monitor the list below, but what does the
inactivity timer exactly monitor
1. There is no user input (keyboard and mouse)
2. The CPU and disk usage is less then 10 percent
3. The system is not running on battery power
4. Presentation programs (such as a Slide show or movie playback) are
not running.
:
System Idle covers the machine's internals.. inactivity timer logs
operator down time..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Hello,
Would anyone be able to explain the difference between
1. System Idle time, that the Task Scheduler uses
2. Inactivity timer, that the screen saver uses
Thanks
Drew said:hmmm,
my problem is that we are setting up a scheduled task to restart machines
after x hours of Idle time. If the machine is in the middle of receiving
an update from SUS, and the xth hour is reached, according to what you are
saying the task will still run, the machine will restart, even though it
was in the process of installing an update.
Is this correct?
Any way around this?
We have our machine setup to check in randomly to our SUS
Wesley Vogel said:From Scheduled Tasks Help...
[[A computer is idle when there is no mouse or keyboard activity.]]
User idle time and system idle time are not the same thing.
Your scheduled task has nothing to do with The System Idle Task Scheduler
service.
The System Idle Task Scheduler service schedules SYSTEM maintenance
tasks, the disk layout task, the system restore task and the Help
services and data collection task. The System Idle Task Scheduler
service does not run your scheduled tasks, the Task Scheduler service
runs your tasks.
Just like Microsoft to use similar names for different things.
[[Windows XP is designed to automatically perform maintenance tasks to
improve performance and reliability. When your computer is on AC power
and is idle, system maintenance tasks may be able to run for a few
minutes. These system maintenance tasks include disk-layout optimization
to improve performance and preparing automatic system restoration points
to increase reliability. Typically, these tasks occur the first time you
leave your computer idle after you start it. These tasks ensure that the
system maintains its performance and reliability even after long use.
Because these tasks involve reading and writing to the hard disk, the
hard disk idle time is reset regularly during this maintenance period.]]
Hard Disks Do Not Turn Off After Your Computer Has Been Idle
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313300
Windows XP does not enter standby after the exact period that is
configured in the Power Options profile
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899975/
Computer does not enter standby mode if Power Options profile is set to
standby after 45 or more minutes
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310601
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
InDrew said:Take a look at KB article q310601. At the bottom of the first page it
describes The System Idle Task Scheduler service.....
By reading this, I'm assuming that if I create a scheduled task to run
after 3 hours of being Idle, and during that time, the CPU usages
spikes, maybe because WSUS has downloaded a patch, that the Idle time
clock will reset....
What do you think?
:
You have them backwards.
System idle process and user inactivity have nothing to do with each
other. System idle process is a percentage of the CPU resources that
are not being used by the system. Inactivity, as related to
Screensavers and Scheduled Tasks, is when there is no user input.
I.e. keyboard or mouse have not been used for a period of time by the
user.
[[System idle process
The System Idle Process is a process in the Microsoft Windows
operating system that displays, as a percentage, how much CPU resources
are "idle" and available for use at any given time. The name of this
"process" may be a misnomer, however, as the System Idle Process is
more of a counter and less of a process that actually uses the resource
percentage that it displays.]]
http://www.answers.com/topic/system-idle-process
From Scheduled Tasks Help...
[[To run a scheduled task when the computer is idle
1. Open Scheduled Tasks.
2. Right-click the task that you want to run when the computer is idle,
and then click Properties.
3. On the Settings tab, under Idle Time, select the Only start the task
if the computer has been idle for at least check box.
4. Enter the length of time (in minutes) for which the computer must be
idle before the task will run.
Notes
To open Scheduled Tasks, click Start, click All Programs, point to
Accessories, point to System Tools, and then click Scheduled Tasks.
A computer is idle when there is no mouse or keyboard activity.
You can specify a length of time (in minutes) in which the computer
attempts to find idle time to run the scheduled task.
You can also specify that any task should be stopped if the computer is
in use by selecting the Stop the task if the computer ceases to be idle
check box. ]]
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
In Drew <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Any chance you can break down the inactivity timer more....for
instance I know that the System Idle monitor the list below, but what
does the inactivity timer exactly monitor
1. There is no user input (keyboard and mouse)
2. The CPU and disk usage is less then 10 percent
3. The system is not running on battery power
4. Presentation programs (such as a Slide show or movie playback) are
not running.
:
System Idle covers the machine's internals.. inactivity timer logs
operator down time..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Hello,
Would anyone be able to explain the difference between
1. System Idle time, that the Task Scheduler uses
2. Inactivity timer, that the screen saver uses
Thanks