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I have used Sysprep to image many Windows XP Pro PC's and never did the step (missed it) telling you to create an account, log into that account and configure it how you want it, log out and into the local administrator account and copy the profile into the Default User profile.

These PC's are in classrooms and multiple students log into these PC's with no problem. They see and can run all the applications that I have installed for them to use. What problems will I see by not doing the above ? I have not seen anything out of the ordinary and these PC's have been used this way for months

Not sure what the ramificatons will be

Thanks
Kurt ...
 
Hello Kurt,
That is an old process that used to work with older versions of Windows NT.
Doing so today could cause problems with your user profiles, going forward.

This was done in the past and is still done today as a way to simplify some
of the configuration options for each user to ensure everyone has the exact
same profile when they log onto the box.

Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Hello,
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I have used Sysprep to image many Windows XP Pro PC's and never did the
step (missed it) telling you to create an account, log into that account
and configure it how you want it, log out and into the local administrator
account and copy the profile into the Default User profile.

These PC's are in classrooms and multiple students log into these PC's
with no problem. They see and can run all the applications that I have
installed for them to use. What problems will I see by not doing the above
? I have not seen anything out of the ordinary and these PC's have been
used this way for months.

Not sure what the ramificatons will be.

Thanks,
Kurt ...
 
Some apps are not XP compliant and may not install for all users - therefore
you'll have issues with those apps asking for serial as an example.

XP compliant apps installs for EVERYONE or have the option to do so. By
doing the copy of default - you help out =)


"Darrell Gorter[MSFT]" said:
Hello Kurt,
That is an old process that used to work with older versions of Windows NT.
Doing so today could cause problems with your user profiles, going forward.

This was done in the past and is still done today as a way to simplify some
of the configuration options for each user to ensure everyone has the exact
same profile when they log onto the box.

Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Hello,
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I have used Sysprep to image many Windows XP Pro PC's and never did the
step (missed it) telling you to create an account, log into that account
and configure it how you want it, log out and into the local administrator
account and copy the profile into the Default User profile.

These PC's are in classrooms and multiple students log into these PC's
with no problem. They see and can run all the applications that I have
installed for them to use. What problems will I see by not doing the above
? I have not seen anything out of the ordinary and these PC's have been
used this way for months.

Not sure what the ramificatons will be.

Thanks,
Kurt ...
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Hello Zane,
So that would be one of the potential problems that you will have when
overwriting the Default User Profile.
Some of the links and registry entires for the app still point back to the
first profile location.
So new user will need to be administrators and that initial profile can
never to removed or replaced.
So If I install those apps as Darrell, then copy the Darrell profile
overwriting Default User,
now Mike logs in for the first time.
We create teh Mike Profile from Default user.
If you look in Mike's registry, you will see entries that point back to
\Documents and Settings\Darrellg, which Mike does not have access to.
Administrators normally would have access to other profiles, but other
accounts would not. It's also possible the app could write some of the
files to the \Documents and Settings\Darrell folder and put user specific
ACLS on it, not allowing administrators access.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Some apps are not XP compliant and may not install for all users - therefore
you'll have issues with those apps asking for serial as an example.

XP compliant apps installs for EVERYONE or have the option to do so. By
doing the copy of default - you help out =)


"Darrell Gorter[MSFT]" said:
Hello Kurt,
That is an old process that used to work with older versions of Windows NT.
Doing so today could cause problems with your user profiles, going forward.

This was done in the past and is still done today as a way to simplify some
of the configuration options for each user to ensure everyone has the exact
same profile when they log onto the box.

Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Hello,
Click to expand...

I have used Sysprep to image many Windows XP Pro PC's and never did the
step (missed it) telling you to create an account, log into that account
and configure it how you want it, log out and into the local administrator
account and copy the profile into the Default User profile.

These PC's are in classrooms and multiple students log into these PC's
with no problem. They see and can run all the applications that I have
installed for them to use. What problems will I see by not doing the above
? I have not seen anything out of the ordinary and these PC's have been
used this way for months.

Not sure what the ramificatons will be.

Thanks,
Kurt ...
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Sorry to be dense, but are you two (Darrell and Zane)
saying that we should or should not create an account, install and
configure using that account, and then copy that account over the
Default User Profile?

I have a KB article at work (don't remember if its a MS or Symantec)
that says that we should follow the above procedure and copy over
the Default User Profile, however the MS book 'Windows XP: Inside
and out' says to log on as administrator to install apps and configure.

john


"Darrell Gorter[MSFT]" said:
Hello Zane,
So that would be one of the potential problems that you will have when
overwriting the Default User Profile.
Some of the links and registry entires for the app still point back to the
first profile location.
So new user will need to be administrators and that initial profile can
never to removed or replaced.
So If I install those apps as Darrell, then copy the Darrell profile
overwriting Default User,
now Mike logs in for the first time.
We create teh Mike Profile from Default user.
If you look in Mike's registry, you will see entries that point back to
\Documents and Settings\Darrellg, which Mike does not have access to.
Administrators normally would have access to other profiles, but other
accounts would not. It's also possible the app could write some of the
files to the \Documents and Settings\Darrell folder and put user specific
ACLS on it, not allowing administrators access.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Some apps are not XP compliant and may not install for all users - therefore
you'll have issues with those apps asking for serial as an example.

XP compliant apps installs for EVERYONE or have the option to do so. By
doing the copy of default - you help out =)


"Darrell Gorter[MSFT]" said:
Hello Kurt,
That is an old process that used to work with older versions of Windows NT.
Doing so today could cause problems with your user profiles, going forward.

This was done in the past and is still done today as a way to simplify some
of the configuration options for each user to ensure everyone has the exact
same profile when they log onto the box.

Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Hello,

I have used Sysprep to image many Windows XP Pro PC's and never did the
step (missed it) telling you to create an account, log into that account
and configure it how you want it, log out and into the local administrator
account and copy the profile into the Default User profile.

These PC's are in classrooms and multiple students log into these PC's
with no problem. They see and can run all the applications that I have
installed for them to use. What problems will I see by not doing the above
? I have not seen anything out of the ordinary and these PC's have been
used this way for months.

Not sure what the ramificatons will be.

Thanks,
Kurt ...
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Hello,
I am stating that replacing the default user profile with another user
profile has the potential to create any number of future problems.
There are problems with following the procedure in the article(s).
Currently there isn't a good way to do this.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Sorry to be dense, but are you two (Darrell and Zane)
saying that we should or should not create an account, install and
configure using that account, and then copy that account over the
Default User Profile?

I have a KB article at work (don't remember if its a MS or Symantec)
that says that we should follow the above procedure and copy over
the Default User Profile, however the MS book 'Windows XP: Inside
and out' says to log on as administrator to install apps and configure.

john


"Darrell Gorter[MSFT]" said:
Hello Zane,
So that would be one of the potential problems that you will have when
overwriting the Default User Profile.
Some of the links and registry entires for the app still point back to the
first profile location.
So new user will need to be administrators and that initial profile can
never to removed or replaced.
So If I install those apps as Darrell, then copy the Darrell profile
overwriting Default User,
now Mike logs in for the first time.
We create teh Mike Profile from Default user.
If you look in Mike's registry, you will see entries that point back to
\Documents and Settings\Darrellg, which Mike does not have access to.
Administrators normally would have access to other profiles, but other
accounts would not. It's also possible the app could write some of the
files to the \Documents and Settings\Darrell folder and put user specific
ACLS on it, not allowing administrators access.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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From: "Zane" <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
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Some apps are not XP compliant and may not install for all users - therefore
you'll have issues with those apps asking for serial as an example.

XP compliant apps installs for EVERYONE or have the option to do so. By
doing the copy of default - you help out =)


Hello Kurt,
That is an old process that used to work with older versions of Windows
NT.
Doing so today could cause problems with your user profiles, going
forward.

This was done in the past and is still done today as a way to simplify
some
of the configuration options for each user to ensure everyone has the
exact
same profile when they log onto the box.

Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Hello,

I have used Sysprep to image many Windows XP Pro PC's and never did the
step (missed it) telling you to create an account, log into that account
and configure it how you want it, log out and into the local administrator
account and copy the profile into the Default User profile.

These PC's are in classrooms and multiple students log into these PC's
with no problem. They see and can run all the applications that I have
installed for them to use. What problems will I see by not doing the
above
? I have not seen anything out of the ordinary and these PC's have been
used this way for months.

Not sure what the ramificatons will be.

Thanks,
Kurt ...
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