SUS on a DC and a NAVCE server ¿?

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David Sabo

I have the following server:
PIII 1.0 GHz
384 Ram
2x 40Gb
Microsoft Windows Server 2000 SP3
Actual Functions:
Active Directory DC
Norton Antivirus Server Corporate Edition 7.6

With this configuration should I install SUS on this server?
You should know that this is the only DC on my network, we are short on
resources.

I'm controling around 60 computers. All the users have remote profile
(mobile profile) on this server. The clients are using Win XP and Win2k

The active directory database and profiles are in one hard drive, and the
operating system with all the software is on a second hardrive.

Should I install SUS, I need a practical solution for updates distribution.
(I'm the olny one encharge of the software administration).

Thanks In Advance.....

Regards from Venezuela

David Sabo
Carcas-Venezuela
 
You are putting quite a load on a server with this amount of RAM. SUS server
will consume some more memory on your server. If you have a chance to
upgrade a server with more RAM, then you could do it. You must also know,
that SUS downloads updates from MS to your server, so you have to plan to
have some more disk space available. For the network of 60 computers it
would be good to place at least one more DC for redundancy.

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Regards

Matjaz Ladava, MCSE, MCSA, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
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http://ladava.com
 
David said:
I have the following server:
PIII 1.0 GHz
384 Ram
2x 40Gb
Microsoft Windows Server 2000 SP3
Actual Functions:
Active Directory DC
Norton Antivirus Server Corporate Edition 7.6

With this configuration should I install SUS on this server?
You should know that this is the only DC on my network, we are short
on resources.

I'm controling around 60 computers. All the users have remote profile
(mobile profile) on this server. The clients are using Win XP and
Win2k

The active directory database and profiles are in one hard drive, and
the operating system with all the software is on a second hardrive.

Should I install SUS, I need a practical solution for updates
distribution. (I'm the olny one encharge of the software
administration).
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I'd have to second Matjaz's comments:
Not only are you already putting too much of a load on this machine for me
to feel happy to reccomend SUS on there too, I'm alarmed to hear its your
only domain controller.

Can you buy a workstation-class machine and another copy of Windows Server
to use as a second domain controller and also install SUS on that?
 
What kind of workstation should I buy?

Robert Moir said:
I'd have to second Matjaz's comments:
Not only are you already putting too much of a load on this machine for me
to feel happy to reccomend SUS on there too, I'm alarmed to hear its your
only domain controller.

Can you buy a workstation-class machine and another copy of Windows Server
to use as a second domain controller and also install SUS on that?


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Robert was just suggesting using a workstation as a cheap way to get you a
second domain controller. Ideally, it should be a server-class machine.

You really do need a second DC, otherwise you'll have one heck of a job on
your hands the day that DC keels over.

I'm not aware of SUS having any huge requirements, but you really should get
another machine anyway, so I'd recommend you install SUS on that.

Oli
 
David said:
What kind of workstation should I buy?
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Any decently configured desktop can serve as a secondary DC and even host
SUS as long as you don't tax it with other services and file sharing. Of
course a server class PC would be nice. You should look at Dells PowerEdge
SE series of servers. They are very well priced and would be perfect for
you needs.

As others have suggested I strongly recommend a second DC. If you're
primary goes down you stand to lose your entire AD environment. With a
second DC you won't. In addition, increase the RAM in that primary server.
384 is hardly enough to run Win2K server let alone other services.
 
You might want to see the following KB article regarding SUS requirements:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=322365

(This article states that you should not install SUS on a DC.)
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Wade said:
You might want to see the following KB article regarding SUS
requirements:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=322365

(This article states that you should not install SUS on a DC.)
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You need to catch up a bit there Wade... The ability to install SUS on a DC
was added with the release SUS 1.1/Service pack 1 for SUS. It isn't the
most ideal situation but there are folks out there that just can't afford
the $$$ for a computer (server) and a second copy of Windows Server just to
run SUS. With that in mind the advice given is good advice.
 
Thanks for the help, I'm already working to get a new server as soon as
possible and to upgrade the memory RAM of my actual server...

Thanks again
David
 
You need to catch up a bit there Wade... The ability to install SUS on a DC
was added with the release SUS 1.1/Service pack 1 for SUS. It isn't the
most ideal situation but there are folks out there that just can't afford
the $$$ for a computer (server) and a second copy of Windows Server just to
run SUS. With that in mind the advice given is good advice.
Click to expand...

And ofcourse there are people out there with SBS server. Now they are
also finally able to run SUS.


Dennis
 
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