Suggest a good XP Registry Cleaner Package

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Could anyone suggest a good XP registry cleaning tool. Dell recommended
EASYCLEANER.

Does Microsoft endorse any? I have not seen this or can find any info on if
they do or don't.

I am not PC literate enough to go in and manually edit/clean up the registry.
 
If you are intent to "Clean-the-Registry", which has all sorts of
hidden dangers - then Image the XP partition/disk before you
turn one (Registry Cleaner) loose on the PC. This way when the
death by a thousand cuts manifests itself you can put the computer
back to a known good state. It gets old trying to explain why a
Registry Cleaning is an itch you don't have to scratch.
Microsoft does not endorse or promote Registry Cleaning. It
was different when they (MS) created the cleaner for 9X/ME.
The Registry layout/structure was different on the 9X OS line
from NT/2000/XP.
 
If you dont have the expertise to manually edit the reg dont use a reg
cleaner. - you still need to know what your deleting.
In any case MS has stated cleaning the reg has no impact upon xp performance
 
HRH said:
Could anyone suggest a good XP registry cleaning tool. Dell recommended
EASYCLEANER.

Does Microsoft endorse any? I have not seen this or can find any info on if
they do or don't.

I am not PC literate enough to go in and manually edit/clean up the registry.
 
HRH said:
Could anyone suggest a good XP registry cleaning tool.


There's no such thing that's safe for the average computer user.

Dell recommended
EASYCLEANER.

I'm glad I don't own any Dells, if that's the caliber of their support.

Does Microsoft endorse any? I have not seen this or can find any info on if
they do or don't.

No, of course they don't. Primarily because there's no real need to
ever use such a thing; and the use of such products is perilous.

I am not PC literate enough to go in and manually edit/clean up the registry.


Then you're most definitely "not PC literate enough" to be able to
safely use a registry "cleaner." How would you know if the action(s)
being proposed and/or performed by a "cleaner" will be safe, or will
leave your computer in an unbootable state, as often happens?

Why would you even think that you need to clean your registry?

What specific problem(s) are you experiencing that you believe will
be fixed by using a registry "cleaner?" If you do have a problem that
is rooted in the registry, it would be far better to simply edit (after
backing up, of course) only the specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are
causing the problem. Why use a shotgun when a scalpel will do the job?
Additionally, the manually changing of one or two registry entries is
far less likely to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated
product to make multiple changes simultaneously.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change. Having seen the results of inexperienced people
using automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user.

The only thing needed to safely maintain your registry is knowledge
and Regedit.exe. If you lack the knowledge and experience to maintain
your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry "cleaner,"
no matter how safe they claim to be. I will concede that a good
registry scanning tool, in the hands of an experienced and knowledgeable
technician or hobbyist can be a useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as
long as it's not allowed to make any changes automatically. But I
really don't think that there are any registry cleaners that are truly
safe for the general public to use. Experience has proven just the
opposite: such tools simply are not safe in the hands of the
inexperienced user.

Further, and more importantly, no one has ever demonstrated, to my
satisfaction, that the use of any automated registry "cleaner,"
particularly by an untrained, inexperienced computer user, does any real
good. There's certainly been no empirical evidence offered to
demonstrate that the use of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry
improves a computer's performance or stability.




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I use jv16 PowerTools from MACECRAFT. I find it to be 100% safe and has
several other functions which I sometimes find usefull.

http://www.macecraft.com

This program is not free but you get what you pay for. I use it frequently
and find it improves the operation of my system and has never screwed
anything up.

Go to the following web page and read about some testing of regestry
cleaning and some recomendations.

http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171203805
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Carl
 
carlbeck said:
Go to the following web page and read about some testing of regestry
cleaning and some recomendations.

http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171203805
:


Langa is not to be trusted on technical issues; he's a journalist first
and foremost, paid by the advertisers of the products he "reviews," and
an indifferent computer user. He has always demonstrated very limited
knowledge of technical matters. Personally, I always tell anyone who
asks to read Frank Langa's advice very carefully, and then do the exact
opposite.


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Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
 
Bruce said:
Langa is not to be trusted on technical issues; he's a journalist
first and foremost, paid by the advertisers of the products he
"reviews," and an indifferent computer user. He has always demonstrated
very limited knowledge of technical matters. Personally, I always tell
anyone who asks to read Frank Langa's advice very carefully, and then do
the exact opposite.


In fact, if you were to actually read Langa's article, you'll see that
his sole criteria for recommending any one registry cleaner over another
is the numbers of purported "errors" each product reported on subsequent
runs. To a limited extent, this is certainly a reasonable test. An
awful lot of these products do report false numbers, for no other reason
than to impress the clueless.

However, and more importantly, at *NO* time did Langa mention any real,
user-experienced problems that the use of these products actually fixed;
nor did he provided any sort of before and after bench-marking tests to
demonstrate any improvement in performance. Do you truly think that, if
these products actually served a useful purpose, Langa would have
completely omitted pointing out the benefits?


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Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
 
You hit on a key aspect of Registry Cleaning - repeat runs and new,
undetected errors from a previous run. If a Registry Cleaner is 100%
effective, it would indict all errors on a single pass. Unfortunately, all
Registry Cleaners work like Pealing an Onion. The more you run it,
the deeper it drills into the Registry. That's the real issue, the Registry
is a highly referenced/intertwined database of links and Class IDs.
The more you run a Registry Cleaner the more it nicks this and that,
until a function or reference becomes broken. You may not discover
the damage until weeks or months later - when it's nearly impossible
to re-import or repair those changes.
 
HRH said:
Could anyone suggest a good XP registry cleaning tool. Dell
recommended EASYCLEANER.


My advice is to use no registry cleaner at all. The registry doesn't need to
be cleaned. Extra registry entries
don't hurt you. The risk of a registry cleaner hurting you (deleting an
entry you need) isn't necessarily enormous, but it's much greater than any
potential benefit it may have.
 
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