sub folders in my recevied mail, not inbox folder

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I recently backed up all my files and then cleaned out my computer and reset
WindowsXp. Everything went fine and there is not a large problem except that
I get sub folders in my inbox. Meaning if anything with the same subject
line get put into the one mail entry. That would not be so bad if they were
all from person, but in a lot of cases, the subject is the same, but the
person sending the mail is different. How can I manage this? Subfolders
meaning there is a little +box beside the mail entry.

Thank you in advance,

Joe
 
Which email client ? Outlook or Outlook Express.

It's early and I've not had enough coffee for my brain to switch on,
but it sounds like your "XP Reset -?" didn't correctly re-establish
the data stores (.dbx or .pst) for your mail account. For Inbox to
have sub-folders usually requires a manual operation, not done by
the email client itself.

You have to be careful with email data stores. They are subject to
corruption. Inbox is really a "Staging Area", to read and then move
messages to a permanent personal folder if you want to keep them.
Size of mail storage folders can be an issue, if they get too large it
becomes more likely you'll have problems.

For Outlook Express you would want to do a folder compression.
For Outlook, use the ScanPst.Exe on your personal folder to check
for any issues.

Data stores for mail is probably one of the most frequently required
"Backups". I actually have a batch file that runs everyday to backup
all my mail account data to an alternate drive/folder.
 
I deleted half my files and nothing changed. Reset means, restored my
computer to when I bought it. Can problem be when I imported my messages?
 
OK, that information helps. You may have some miss-matches
between the master mailbox store (Folders.Dbx) and your
individual folders. You need to locate your .Dbx's and check
the identifier. If OE creates new versions, you'll see items in the
listing like Inbox (1).dbx, instead of Inbox.dbx. You can use
search ( Advanced w/ System & Hidden) to locate your mail
storage files.

Actually, when redoing XP you don't have to "Import" your
original .dbx modules. What I do is have a folder called Mailbox
and within it a sub-folder for each mail profile. This folder is on
a separate drive from XP. When I do a Image restore, the path
to my mail folders is on that secondary drive. Outlook Express
knows that for each mail profile (Identity), it's storage folder is
on that 2nd drive and it uses the content that's already there.
Doing it this way, avoids the pitfalls with Importing & duplicated
folders.
 
I check my inbox.dbx and there is only one listed and nothing out of the
order as I can see.
 
Worth checking, Thanks - If I understand your issue, it's that new
received mail comes in and appears within sub-folders of Inbox &
not just 100% in the Inbox itself - is that correct ?
 
Yes, if mail is received and the subject name is the same as any other mail
received than the incoming mail will become a sub-folder(sub-message) of an
earlier e-mail, not necessarily from the same person.
 
Quite unusual, I've never had a case where I've had inbounds mail that
came in with the same subject line. If they aren't duplicates, then I'm not
sure what to suggest. If it didn't do this prior to your XP reset then it is
likely a setting within Outlook Express and not something related to the
message stores. I'll mull it over and if I can think up something else that
might help, I'll repost. You might want to post over in the Outlook Exp
newsgroup and see if someone there can give you a tip.
 
I have been posting everywhere looking for an answer, but nobody is giving me
one. I thought it would be simple to fix, boy was I wrong. Thank you for you
time and I will check later and see if you come up with anything or I will
post if I find the answer.
 
Doesn't that setting only apply to Newsgroup handing ?

Keith Miller said:
In Outlook Express:

View -> Current View -> uncheck "Group Messages by Conversation"

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows XP Shell/User]


Joe Edwards said:
I have been posting everywhere looking for an answer, but nobody is
giving me
one. I thought it would be simple to fix, boy was I wrong. Thank you for
you
time and I will check later and see if you come up with anything or I
will
post if I find the answer.
 
Nope, it will group inbox messages as well.

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows XP Shell/User]


R. McCarty said:
Doesn't that setting only apply to Newsgroup handing ?

Keith Miller said:
In Outlook Express:

View -> Current View -> uncheck "Group Messages by Conversation"

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows XP Shell/User]


Joe Edwards said:
I have been posting everywhere looking for an answer, but nobody is
giving me
one. I thought it would be simple to fix, boy was I wrong. Thank you for
you
time and I will check later and see if you come up with anything or I
will
post if I find the answer.

:

Quite unusual, I've never had a case where I've had inbounds mail that
came in with the same subject line. If they aren't duplicates, then I'm
not
sure what to suggest. If it didn't do this prior to your XP reset then
it is
likely a setting within Outlook Express and not something related to
the
message stores. I'll mull it over and if I can think up something else
that
might help, I'll repost. You might want to post over in the Outlook Exp
newsgroup and see if someone there can give you a tip.

Yes, if mail is received and the subject name is the same as any
other
mail
received than the incoming mail will become a sub-folder(sub-message)
of
an
earlier e-mail, not necessarily from the same person.

:

Worth checking, Thanks - If I understand your issue, it's that new
received mail comes in and appears within sub-folders of Inbox &
not just 100% in the Inbox itself - is that correct ?

message
I check my inbox.dbx and there is only one listed and nothing out
of the
order as I can see.

:

OK, that information helps. You may have some miss-matches
between the master mailbox store (Folders.Dbx) and your
individual folders. You need to locate your .Dbx's and check
the identifier. If OE creates new versions, you'll see items in
the
listing like Inbox (1).dbx, instead of Inbox.dbx. You can use
search ( Advanced w/ System & Hidden) to locate your mail
storage files.

Actually, when redoing XP you don't have to "Import" your
original .dbx modules. What I do is have a folder called Mailbox
and within it a sub-folder for each mail profile. This folder is
on
a separate drive from XP. When I do a Image restore, the path
to my mail folders is on that secondary drive. Outlook Express
knows that for each mail profile (Identity), it's storage folder
is
on that 2nd drive and it uses the content that's already there.
Doing it this way, avoids the pitfalls with Importing &
duplicated
folders.

message
I deleted half my files and nothing changed. Reset means,
restored
my
computer to when I bought it. Can problem be when I imported
my
messages?

:

Outlook Express, I will delete a lot of unneeded material and
see
what
happens.

:

Which email client ? Outlook or Outlook Express.

It's early and I've not had enough coffee for my brain to
switch
on,
but it sounds like your "XP Reset -?" didn't correctly
re-establish
the data stores (.dbx or .pst) for your mail account. For
Inbox
to
have sub-folders usually requires a manual operation, not
done by
the email client itself.

You have to be careful with email data stores. They are
subject
to
corruption. Inbox is really a "Staging Area", to read and
then
move
messages to a permanent personal folder if you want to keep
them.
Size of mail storage folders can be an issue, if they get
too
large
it
becomes more likely you'll have problems.

For Outlook Express you would want to do a folder
compression.
For Outlook, use the ScanPst.Exe on your personal folder to
check
for any issues.

Data stores for mail is probably one of the most frequently
required
"Backups". I actually have a batch file that runs everyday
to
backup
all my mail account data to an alternate drive/folder.



in
message
I recently backed up all my files and then cleaned out my
computer
and
reset
WindowsXp. Everything went fine and there is not a large
problem
except
that
I get sub folders in my inbox. Meaning if anything with
the
same
subject
line get put into the one mail entry. That would not be
so bad
if
they
were
all from person, but in a lot of cases, the subject is
the
same,
but
the
person sending the mail is different. How can I manage
this?
Subfolders
meaning there is a little +box beside the mail entry.

Thank you in advance,

Joe
 
Thanks - Learn something important everyday in here.

Keith Miller said:
Nope, it will group inbox messages as well.

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows XP Shell/User]


R. McCarty said:
Doesn't that setting only apply to Newsgroup handing ?

Keith Miller said:
In Outlook Express:

View -> Current View -> uncheck "Group Messages by Conversation"

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows XP Shell/User]


I have been posting everywhere looking for an answer, but nobody is
giving me
one. I thought it would be simple to fix, boy was I wrong. Thank you
for
you
time and I will check later and see if you come up with anything or I
will
post if I find the answer.

:

Quite unusual, I've never had a case where I've had inbounds mail
that
came in with the same subject line. If they aren't duplicates, then
I'm
not
sure what to suggest. If it didn't do this prior to your XP reset
then
it is
likely a setting within Outlook Express and not something related to
the
message stores. I'll mull it over and if I can think up something
else
that
might help, I'll repost. You might want to post over in the Outlook
Exp
newsgroup and see if someone there can give you a tip.

message
Yes, if mail is received and the subject name is the same as any
other
mail
received than the incoming mail will become a
sub-folder(sub-message)
of
an
earlier e-mail, not necessarily from the same person.

:

Worth checking, Thanks - If I understand your issue, it's that
new
received mail comes in and appears within sub-folders of Inbox &
not just 100% in the Inbox itself - is that correct ?

message
I check my inbox.dbx and there is only one listed and nothing
out
of the
order as I can see.

:

OK, that information helps. You may have some miss-matches
between the master mailbox store (Folders.Dbx) and your
individual folders. You need to locate your .Dbx's and check
the identifier. If OE creates new versions, you'll see items
in
the
listing like Inbox (1).dbx, instead of Inbox.dbx. You can use
search ( Advanced w/ System & Hidden) to locate your mail
storage files.

Actually, when redoing XP you don't have to "Import" your
original .dbx modules. What I do is have a folder called
Mailbox
and within it a sub-folder for each mail profile. This folder
is
on
a separate drive from XP. When I do a Image restore, the path
to my mail folders is on that secondary drive. Outlook Express
knows that for each mail profile (Identity), it's storage
folder
is
on that 2nd drive and it uses the content that's already
there.
Doing it this way, avoids the pitfalls with Importing &
duplicated
folders.

message
I deleted half my files and nothing changed. Reset means,
restored
my
computer to when I bought it. Can problem be when I
imported
my
messages?

:

Outlook Express, I will delete a lot of unneeded material
and
see
what
happens.

:

Which email client ? Outlook or Outlook Express.

It's early and I've not had enough coffee for my brain to
switch
on,
but it sounds like your "XP Reset -?" didn't correctly
re-establish
the data stores (.dbx or .pst) for your mail account. For
Inbox
to
have sub-folders usually requires a manual operation, not
done by
the email client itself.

You have to be careful with email data stores. They are
subject
to
corruption. Inbox is really a "Staging Area", to read and
then
move
messages to a permanent personal folder if you want to
keep
them.
Size of mail storage folders can be an issue, if they get
too
large
it
becomes more likely you'll have problems.

For Outlook Express you would want to do a folder
compression.
For Outlook, use the ScanPst.Exe on your personal folder
to
check
for any issues.

Data stores for mail is probably one of the most
frequently
required
"Backups". I actually have a batch file that runs
everyday
to
backup
all my mail account data to an alternate drive/folder.



"Joe Edwards" <[email protected]>
wrote
in
message
I recently backed up all my files and then cleaned out
my
computer
and
reset
WindowsXp. Everything went fine and there is not a
large
problem
except
that
I get sub folders in my inbox. Meaning if anything
with
the
same
subject
line get put into the one mail entry. That would not
be
so bad
if
they
were
all from person, but in a lot of cases, the subject is
the
same,
but
the
person sending the mail is different. How can I manage
this?
Subfolders
meaning there is a little +box beside the mail entry.

Thank you in advance,

Joe
 
Asked, answered & still under discussion in OE General newsgroup.

If you must make identical posts to multiple newsgroups, please cross-post
one (1) message to all of them. Thank you.
 
That was the solution that I have been looking for. Simple is best and
sometimes we think to hard. Thanks guys for you help. One note: this
setting can be set separately for local folders and newsgroups.

Thanks again

Joe
 
You're welcome.

Joe said:
That was the solution that I have been looking for. Simple is best and
sometimes we think to hard. Thanks guys for you help. One note: this
setting can be set separately for local folders and newsgroups.

Thanks again

Joe

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