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I bought a Acer laptop a little while ago and it say that is has 60GB HDD. I
have used up 26GB and it says that there is no more space. Why is that and I
would like to know if I can make it get more space without removing programs?
 
Many times OEMs partition (segment) the physical drive
into multiple volumes.Usually, this is done to hold the Factory
State or recovery image. To visually examine the drive's
layout or structure use DiskMgmt.Msc [Enter]
If the computer has only the single physical drive, it will show
the layout in a horizontal bar graph.
 
clayton said:
I bought a Acer laptop a little while ago and it say that is has 60GB HDD. I
have used up 26GB and it says that there is no more space. Why is that and I
would like to know if I can make it get more space without removing programs?
You may have things set so that you do not see hidden or system files,
and it is these that are taking up space.

A particularly likely culprit is System Restore. The default is to let
SR use 12% of your disk space. On a 60GB drive, this is over 7 GB. For
most normal users, 1 GB should be sufficient space for SR.

Right-click on "My Computer"
click on "Properties"
click the "System Restore" tab
select the monitored drive to be resized and click settings;
move the slider to the left to reduce the disk space used to hold
restore points

Reducing the alloted size will purge the oldest restore points on a
first in first out (FIFO) bases and leave as many recent restore points
as the new size will allow.

You also should run DiskCleanup (pick one of the following methods to
access):

-- Click Start | Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Disk Cleanup
-- Click Start | Run and in the Open box type cleanmgr and click OK
-- In Windows Explorer or My Computer, right-click the disk in which you
want to free up space, click Properties, click the General tab, and then
click Disk Cleanup.

DiskCleanup includes an option to delete all but the most recent System
Restore point. If things have generally been behaving themselves for
the past week or two, you might try that as well.

Finally, there was (is?) a bug in a version 6.5 of ZoneAlarm Free that
causes System Restore to quickly grow to its maximum size. If you have
this version, either go back to an earlier one or see if a newer one has
been released. This was back in June, so it may have been fixed by now.
See this thread:
http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=gen&message.id=34871
 
To investigate how you are using hard disk space you need to make sure that
you can see all files. Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View,
Advanced Settings and verify that the box before "Show hidden files and
folders" is checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is
unchecked. You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should
also make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file types"
is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View, Details is selected
and then select View, Choose Details and check before Name, Type, Total
Size, and Free Space.

You still will not see the System Volume Information folder.
How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531

FileSize -a useful tool for use with Windows Explorer when investigating how
disk space is being used.
http://markd.mvps.org/

The download link is not obvious. Click the here in the two sentences of the
web page accessed through the link above. "I can't count the number of times
someone has asked for this. So here is a module you can install that shows a
Folder Size column in Explorer."

To increase you free space on your C select Start, All Programs,
Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and
remove all but the latest System Restore points? Restore points can be quite
large.

You should use Disk CleanUp regularly to Empty your Recycle Bin and
Remove Temporary Internet Files. Whenever you remove redundant files you
should always run Disk Defragmenter by selecting Start, All Programs,
Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter.

It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System Restore on
your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right
click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore.
Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this time find the
slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get
to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.

Are you using any Norton Utilities?

If your hard drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of your
C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows folder
typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$ etc.

These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed the
text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not compressed
you can compress them. Right click on each folder and select Properties,
General, Advanced and check the box before Compress contents to
save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount gained
by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder compression is
only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.

Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful is that for
temporary internet files especially if you do not store offline copies on
disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to
offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer
select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings
to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days history
is held.

The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. On your drive
5% should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor on your
Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and move the slider
from 10% to 5%.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Thanks, but I also found after that I have a c:drive that is full (26gb) and
D:drive that is empty. why is there 2 drives and how do I use the D: drive
for storage. Sorry I'm kind of new at this. Thanks

R. McCarty said:
Many times OEMs partition (segment) the physical drive
into multiple volumes.Usually, this is done to hold the Factory
State or recovery image. To visually examine the drive's
layout or structure use DiskMgmt.Msc [Enter]
If the computer has only the single physical drive, it will show
the layout in a horizontal bar graph.


clayton said:
I bought a Acer laptop a little while ago and it say that is has 60GB HDD.
I
have used up 26GB and it says that there is no more space. Why is that
and I
would like to know if I can make it get more space without removing
programs?
 
clayton said:
Thanks, but I also found after that I have a c:drive that is full
(26gb) and D:drive that is empty. why is there 2 drives and how do I
use the D: drive for storage. Sorry I'm kind of new at this. Thanks


As R. Mcarty says, you don't literally have two drives, but one drive that
is divided into two pieces (partitions) called C: and D: Based on what you
say, they are probably of equal size.

Think of a two-drawer file cabinet. The top drawer is C: and the bottom one
D: You've been filling up the top one and there's no room left in it, but
the bottom one is empty.

Why did they partition the drive in two pieces? Your vendor thought it was
better that way. There are many reasons for having multiple partitions (two
drawers in the file cabinet instead of one giant drawer), but argung the
pros and cons of it doesn't matter much once it's done. It can be changed,
but not easily (it requires special software).

So the pertinent question is "how do I use the D: drive for storage?" The
simple answer is just put any files you want to save there instead of in C:.
For example, if you download a file from the internet, you get a dialog box
asking you where to put it. You presumably just take the default, which puts
it somewhere on C:, but you can use that dialog box to navigate to someplace
on D: instead and save the file there. You can do the same when you install
programs.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

R. McCarty said:
Many times OEMs partition (segment) the physical drive
into multiple volumes.Usually, this is done to hold the Factory
State or recovery image. To visually examine the drive's
layout or structure use DiskMgmt.Msc [Enter]
If the computer has only the single physical drive, it will show
the layout in a horizontal bar graph.


clayton said:
I bought a Acer laptop a little while ago and it say that is has
60GB HDD. I
have used up 26GB and it says that there is no more space. Why is
that and I
would like to know if I can make it get more space without removing
programs?
 
26GB is good size for XP, apps, swapfile and hibernation file. When you
start storing your own data on it, and accumulates, you run out of space.
Using the D: partition may be a good idea. But, again may not if a recovery
partition is its purpose. If you are totally sure there is no data on the
partition, is not purposely hidden from the user as an example, remove the
partition, create another and format it.
--
Jonny
clayton said:
Thanks, but I also found after that I have a c:drive that is full (26gb)
and
D:drive that is empty. why is there 2 drives and how do I use the D:
drive
for storage. Sorry I'm kind of new at this. Thanks

R. McCarty said:
Many times OEMs partition (segment) the physical drive
into multiple volumes.Usually, this is done to hold the Factory
State or recovery image. To visually examine the drive's
layout or structure use DiskMgmt.Msc [Enter]
If the computer has only the single physical drive, it will show
the layout in a horizontal bar graph.


clayton said:
I bought a Acer laptop a little while ago and it say that is has 60GB
HDD.
I
have used up 26GB and it says that there is no more space. Why is that
and I
would like to know if I can make it get more space without removing
programs?
 
Jonny said:
26GB is good size for XP, apps, swapfile and hibernation file. When
you start storing your own data on it, and accumulates, you run out
of space. Using the D: partition may be a good idea. But, again may
not if a recovery partition is its purpose. If you are totally sure
there is no data on the partition, is not purposely hidden from the
user as an example, remove the partition, create another and format
it.


First, it's highly unlikely that it's a recovery partition, because it's
apparently very large--half the size of his 60GB drive.

Second, why would someone remove a partition that has nothing in it and
create and format another in its place? That's nothing but extra work
resulting in exactly what you started with.

If there's nothing in the partition, all he has to do is start putting files
in it. He may also want to move some existing files from C: to D:

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Thanks, but I also found after that I have a c:drive that is full
(26gb) and
D:drive that is empty. why is there 2 drives and how do I use the D:
drive
for storage. Sorry I'm kind of new at this. Thanks

R. McCarty said:
Many times OEMs partition (segment) the physical drive
into multiple volumes.Usually, this is done to hold the Factory
State or recovery image. To visually examine the drive's
layout or structure use DiskMgmt.Msc [Enter]
If the computer has only the single physical drive, it will show
the layout in a horizontal bar graph.


I bought a Acer laptop a little while ago and it say that is has
60GB HDD.
I
have used up 26GB and it says that there is no more space. Why is
that and I
would like to know if I can make it get more space without removing
programs?
 
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