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JA
is there a setting on the xp version that will stop the
pop ups?
ja
pop ups?
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Vortex
Yes, just turn off the messenger service. Goto your
Administrative tools, services, and find Messenger in the
list. Click properties, and then choose disabled. Then
stop the service (you should be able to do it in there,
or if not, right click it and choose "stop"), the only
useful thing this service does is allow administrators to
send messages. If your admin does not need this (and if
he does, he's full of sh**), just disable it anyways.
ALL IT DOES IS ALLOW POP-UPS!
Administrative tools, services, and find Messenger in the
list. Click properties, and then choose disabled. Then
stop the service (you should be able to do it in there,
or if not, right click it and choose "stop"), the only
useful thing this service does is allow administrators to
send messages. If your admin does not need this (and if
he does, he's full of sh**), just disable it anyways.
ALL IT DOES IS ALLOW POP-UPS!
B
Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
Please stop posting potentially harmful advice.
Disabling the messenger service is a "head in the sand" approach
to computer security that leaves the PC vulnerable to threats such as
the W32.Blaster.Worm.
The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert. The
true problem is the unsecured computer, and you're only advice,
however well-intended, was to turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful? Is there a particular reason you want the OP's machine to be
open to attacks by worms such as Blaster and Welchia?
Equivalent Scenario: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as you are, replies, "Well,
don't do that."
The only true way to secure the PC, short of disconnecting it from
the Internet, is to install and *properly* configure a firewall; just
installing one and letting it's default settings handle things is no
good. Unfortunately, this does require one to learn a little bit more
about using a computer than used to be necessary.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
Please stop posting potentially harmful advice.
Disabling the messenger service is a "head in the sand" approach
to computer security that leaves the PC vulnerable to threats such as
the W32.Blaster.Worm.
The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert. The
true problem is the unsecured computer, and you're only advice,
however well-intended, was to turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful? Is there a particular reason you want the OP's machine to be
open to attacks by worms such as Blaster and Welchia?
Equivalent Scenario: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as you are, replies, "Well,
don't do that."
The only true way to secure the PC, short of disconnecting it from
the Internet, is to install and *properly* configure a firewall; just
installing one and letting it's default settings handle things is no
good. Unfortunately, this does require one to learn a little bit more
about using a computer than used to be necessary.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
B
Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
There are at least three varieties of pop-ups, and the solutions
vary accordingly. Which specific type(s) is troubling you?
1) Does the title bar of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"
This type of spam has become quite common over the past several
months, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you may well be open to other threats, such as the Blaster Worm that
recently swept cross the Internet. Install and use a decent,
properly configured firewall. (Merely disabling the messenger
service, as some people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does
little or nothing to truly secure your machine.) And ignoring or just
"putting up with" the security gap represented by these messages is
particularly foolish.
Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893
Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904
Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?
2) For regular Internet pop-ups, you might try the free 12Ghosts
Popup-killer from http://12ghosts.com/ghosts/popup.htm, Pop-Up Stopper
from http://www.panicware.com/, or the Google Toolbar from
http://toolbar.google.com/. Myself, I use Norton Internet Security,
which, in addition to containing Norton Anti-Virus and Personal
Firewall, also blocks many of the pop-up adds on the Internet.
3) To deal with pop-ups caused by any sort of "adware" and/or
"spyware,"such as Gator, Comet Cursors, Xupiter, Bonzai Buddy, or
KaZaA, and their remnants, that you've deliberately (but without
understanding the consequences) installed, two products that are
quite effective (at finding and removing this type of scumware) are
Ad-Aware from www.lavasoft.de and SpyBot Search & Destroy from
http://security.kolla.de/. Both have free versions. It's even
possible to use SpyBot Search & Destroy to "immunize" your system
against most future intrusions. I use both and generally perform
manual scans every week or so to clean out cookies, etc.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
There are at least three varieties of pop-ups, and the solutions
vary accordingly. Which specific type(s) is troubling you?
1) Does the title bar of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"
This type of spam has become quite common over the past several
months, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you may well be open to other threats, such as the Blaster Worm that
recently swept cross the Internet. Install and use a decent,
properly configured firewall. (Merely disabling the messenger
service, as some people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does
little or nothing to truly secure your machine.) And ignoring or just
"putting up with" the security gap represented by these messages is
particularly foolish.
Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893
Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904
Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?
2) For regular Internet pop-ups, you might try the free 12Ghosts
Popup-killer from http://12ghosts.com/ghosts/popup.htm, Pop-Up Stopper
from http://www.panicware.com/, or the Google Toolbar from
http://toolbar.google.com/. Myself, I use Norton Internet Security,
which, in addition to containing Norton Anti-Virus and Personal
Firewall, also blocks many of the pop-up adds on the Internet.
3) To deal with pop-ups caused by any sort of "adware" and/or
"spyware,"such as Gator, Comet Cursors, Xupiter, Bonzai Buddy, or
KaZaA, and their remnants, that you've deliberately (but without
understanding the consequences) installed, two products that are
quite effective (at finding and removing this type of scumware) are
Ad-Aware from www.lavasoft.de and SpyBot Search & Destroy from
http://security.kolla.de/. Both have free versions. It's even
possible to use SpyBot Search & Destroy to "immunize" your system
against most future intrusions. I use both and generally perform
manual scans every week or so to clean out cookies, etc.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
D
Drew Cooper [MSFT]
IMHO, any service should be off unless it's needed. It's not the ultimate
solution to all security problems, but it's one part of a "defense in depth"
approach.
That said, if the machine is joined to a domain contact a domain
administrator to determine if the service is needed before shutting it off.
solution to all security problems, but it's one part of a "defense in depth"
approach.
That said, if the machine is joined to a domain contact a domain
administrator to determine if the service is needed before shutting it off.
C
cato
Is there a way to find out in a stand alone configuration which services can
be shut off without compromising XP pro?
Try and error method seems dangerous this case. They say even reboot can be
compromised after a bad setting.
be shut off without compromising XP pro?
Try and error method seems dangerous this case. They say even reboot can be
compromised after a bad setting.
Drew Cooper said:IMHO, any service should be off unless it's needed. It's not the ultimate
solution to all security problems, but it's one part of a "defense in depth"
approach.
That said, if the machine is joined to a domain contact a domain
administrator to determine if the service is needed before shutting it off.
--
Drew Cooper [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Bruce Chambers said:Greetings --
Please stop posting potentially harmful advice.
Disabling the messenger service is a "head in the sand" approach
to computer security that leaves the PC vulnerable to threats such as
the W32.Blaster.Worm.
The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert. The
true problem is the unsecured computer, and you're only advice,
however well-intended, was to turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful? Is there a particular reason you want the OP's machine to be
open to attacks by worms such as Blaster and Welchia?
Equivalent Scenario: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as you are, replies, "Well,
don't do that."
The only true way to secure the PC, short of disconnecting it from
the Internet, is to install and *properly* configure a firewall; just
installing one and letting it's default settings handle things is no
good. Unfortunately, this does require one to learn a little bit more
about using a computer than used to be necessary.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
D
Drew Cooper [MSFT]
You can download the Windows XP Security Guide here:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tr...ecurity/prodtech/windows/secwinxp/default.asp
Sorry - I probably should have put the URL in my original post.
--
Drew Cooper [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tr...ecurity/prodtech/windows/secwinxp/default.asp
Sorry - I probably should have put the URL in my original post.
--
Drew Cooper [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
cato said:Is there a way to find out in a stand alone configuration which services can
be shut off without compromising XP pro?
Try and error method seems dangerous this case. They say even reboot can be
compromised after a bad setting.
Drew Cooper said:IMHO, any service should be off unless it's needed. It's not the ultimate
solution to all security problems, but it's one part of a "defense in depth"
approach.
That said, if the machine is joined to a domain contact a domain
administrator to determine if the service is needed before shutting it off.
--
Drew Cooper [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Bruce Chambers said:Greetings --
Please stop posting potentially harmful advice.
Disabling the messenger service is a "head in the sand" approach
to computer security that leaves the PC vulnerable to threats such as
the W32.Blaster.Worm.
The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert. The
true problem is the unsecured computer, and you're only advice,
however well-intended, was to turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful? Is there a particular reason you want the OP's machine to be
open to attacks by worms such as Blaster and Welchia?
Equivalent Scenario: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as you are, replies, "Well,
don't do that."
The only true way to secure the PC, short of disconnecting it from
the Internet, is to install and *properly* configure a firewall; just
installing one and letting it's default settings handle things is no
good. Unfortunately, this does require one to learn a little bit more
about using a computer than used to be necessary.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
Yes, just turn off the messenger service. Goto your
Administrative tools, services, and find Messenger in the
list. Click properties, and then choose disabled. Then
stop the service (you should be able to do it in there,
or if not, right click it and choose "stop"), the only
useful thing this service does is allow administrators to
send messages. If your admin does not need this (and if
he does, he's full of sh**), just disable it anyways.
ALL IT DOES IS ALLOW POP-UPS!
B
Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
Perhaps, but turning off the messenger service is no substitute
for installing a firewall. Additionally, a disabled messenger service
can't very well act as a "back-up security alert" to tell the user
that his/her firewall has failed.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
Perhaps, but turning off the messenger service is no substitute
for installing a firewall. Additionally, a disabled messenger service
can't very well act as a "back-up security alert" to tell the user
that his/her firewall has failed.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH