SPYWARE

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Geoffw

i have had some good results from here

www.ewido.com

free online scan, I am not associated they just got me out
of a hard spot a few weeks back

unless it is windows messaging service which someone else
has poiinted out, this can be turned off

Geoff


"Linda Williams" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
 
Hi,
"Windows has detected spyware infection!"
Norton does not detect spyware with full system scan. I am cautious about
responding to the message that pops up.
Should I be concerned or just ignore.
 
Windows doesn't look for spywear so will never find it. Perhaps you need to give more details. What does it ask you to do. What does it look like. Ctrl + C will copy it if it is what I think it is.
 
Does the following link ring a bell?

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;330904

It sounds like you are getting spam through the Windows Messenger Service.
Note, this is not MSN Messenger or the Windows instant messaging program. If
this is the case you do not have a firewall running. Here's some links on
how to use the built in firewall in Windows XP.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/icf.mspx

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;q283673

If this is not the cause of the message then you may be infected with
spyware. Here's some links to help with that.

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial48.html

http://www.kdbsystems.com/Spyware.htm
 
Linda said:
Hi,
"Windows has detected spyware infection!"
Norton does not detect spyware with full system scan. I am cautious about
responding to the message that pops up.
Should I be concerned or just ignore.

In addition to what others have posted, no one program alone, is
sufficient to scan for all forms of malware, and Norton is not primarily
an anti-spyware, adware program. It is for viruses, worms, etc. See
these links for how to keep your system clean. You need to use a
combination of programs and run them in safe mode. See these links for
information:

THE PARASITE FIGHT
Finding, Removing & Protecting Yourself From Scumware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm

Richard Harper’s Guide to Cleaning Pests
http://rgharper.mvps.org/cleanit.htm

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware
 
Delete all spyware asap.
"Windows has detected spyware infection!"
Norton does not detect spyware with full system scan. I am cautious about
responding to the message that pops up.
Should I be concerned or just ignore.
 
David said:
Windows doesn't look for spywear so will never find it. Perhaps you need to give more details. What does it ask you to do. What does it look like. Ctrl + C will copy it if it is what I think it is.

MS distributes free BETA spyware apps.
 
Linda said:
Hi,
"Windows has detected spyware infection!"
Norton does not detect spyware with full system scan. I am cautious about
responding to the message that pops up.
Should I be concerned or just ignore.


It sounds like a common scam, but your description is exceedingly
vague. (And Nortin is an antivirus application, it's not really
designed to handle spyware, to any significant extent.


It's most likely from a very unscrupulous "business." They're trying
to sell you patches that Microsoft provides free-of-charge, or a useless
"product" that will install adware/spyware, and using a very intrusive
means of advertising. It's also demonstrating that your PC is very
unsecure. The presence of that message on your desktop is proof that
your machine is still infested, as the message *is* malware.

What specific kind of pop-ups are you seeing? There are at least
three varieties of pop-ups, and the solutions vary accordingly.

1) Does the title bar of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"

This type of spam has become quite common over the past few years,
and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It demonstrates
that the computer user hasn't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. The user's data probably hasn't been
compromised by these specific advertisements, but if he/she's open to
this exploit, he/she may well be open to other threats, such as the
Blaster Worm that swept across the Internet years ago and the Sasser
Worm that followed shortly thereafter, both of which can still be
contacted. Install and use a decent, properly configured firewall.
(Merely disabling the messenger service, as some people recommend, only
hides the symptom, and does little or nothing to truly secure the
machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with" the security gap
represented by these messages is particularly foolish.

Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904

Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise the user to do
nothing more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the
messenger service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to
computer security. The real problem is not the messenger service
pop-ups; they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by
acting as a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer,
and the user's been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is
this helpful?

2) For regular Internet pop-ups, you might try the free 12Ghosts
Popup-killer from http://12ghosts.com/ghosts/popup.htm, Pop-Up Stopper
from http://www.panicware.com/, or the Google Toolbar from
http://toolbar.google.com/. Alternatively, you can upgrade your WinXP
to SP2, to install IE's pop-up blocker. Another alternative would be
to use another browser, such as Mozilla or Firefox, which has pop-up
blocking capabilities. (But I'd avoid Netscape; it carries too much
extraneous AOL garbage.)

3) To deal with pop-ups caused by any sort of "adware" and/or
"spyware,"such as Gator, Comet Cursors, Xupiter, Bonzai Buddy, or
KaZaA, and their remnants, that you've deliberately (but without
understanding the consequences) installed, two products that are
quite effective (at finding and removing this type of scumware) are
Ad-Aware from www.lavasoft.de and SpyBot Search & Destroy from
www.safer-networking.org/. Both have free versions. It's even
possible to use SpyBot Search & Destroy to "immunize" your system
against most future intrusions. I use both and generally perform
manual scans every week or so to clean out cookies, etc.

Additionally, manual removal instructions for the most common
varieties of scumware are available here:

PC Hell Spyware and Adware Removal Help
http://www.pchell.com/support/spyware.shtml

More information and assistance is available at these sites:

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

The Parasite Fight
http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm

Neither adware nor spyware, collectively known as scumware,
magically install themselves on anyone's computer. They are almost
always deliberately installed by the computer's user, as part of some
allegedly "free" service or product.

While there are some unscrupulous malware distributors out there,
who do attempt to install and exploit malware without consent, the
majority of them simply rely upon the intellectual laziness and
gullibility of the average consumer, counting on them to quickly click
past the EULA in his/her haste to get the latest in "free" cutesy
cursors, screensavers, "utilities," and/or wallpapers.

If you were to read the EULAs that accompany, and to which the
computer user must agree before the download/installation of the
"screensaver" continues, most adware and spyware, you'll find that
they _do_ have the consumer's permission to do exactly what they're
doing. In the overwhelming majority of cases, computer users have no
one to blame but themselves.

There are several essential components to computer security: a
knowledgeable and pro-active user, a properly configured firewall,
reliable and up-to-date antivirus software, and the prompt repair (via
patches, hotfixes, or service packs) of any known vulnerabilities.

The weakest link in this "equation" is, of course, the computer
user. No software manufacturer can -- nor should they be expected
to -- protect the computer user from him/herself. All too many people
have bought into the various PC/software manufacturers marketing
claims of easy computing. They believe that their computer should be
no harder to use than a toaster oven; they have neither the
inclination or desire to learn how to safely use their computer. All
too few people keep their antivirus software current, install patches
in a timely manner, or stop to really think about that cutesy link
they're about to click.

Firewalls and anti-virus applications, which should always be used
and should always be running, are important components of "safe hex,"
but they cannot, and should not be expected to, protect the computer
user from him/herself. Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and
every computer user to learn how to secure his/her own computer.

To learn more about practicing "safe hex," start with these links:

Protect Your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp

Home Computer Security
http://www.cert.org/homeusers/HomeComputerSecurity/

List of Antivirus Software Vendors
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;49500

Home PC Firewall Guide
http://www.firewallguide.com/

Scumware.com
http://www.scumware.com/


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Bruce Chambers

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Bruce said:
It sounds like a common scam, but your description is exceedingly
vague. (And Nortin is an antivirus application, it's not really
designed to handle spyware, to any significant extent.


Norton Internet Security is everything:

"Enjoy your connection to the world. Norton Internet Security™ 2006
gives you the confidence to travel the Internet like never before,
protected against viruses, hackers, spyware, and spam. A comprehensive
set of security tools, Norton Internet Security helps keep you safe
online as you surf and email, swap files, download programs, and chat. "

Why would they claim this in thei marketing brochure and webpage if it
is not "designed to handle spyware, to any significant extent"?

When did you last use this product? All new computers come with this
preinstalled! Unless you know what Linda is using.

http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/internet_security/nis2006/index.html

Sharon
 
The biggest scam going now is the online scan - you got malware
issues...buy this product to remove the culprit.

These look like legitimate programs and will actually remove other
programs spyware...but they leave their own spyware programs
untouched.

When in doubt always google the program and research what it is and
what others have to say about it.

I use the following free programs on my computer and have so.... for
many years. I have never been infected with any worms or trojans or
viruses or any major spyware/malware applications.

There are many professional programs that can be purchased but I like
free and these work as well as the ones that have to be purchased.

SpywareBlaster
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
This program stops some 5000 known items from even getting a start
onto your computer and uses vey little resources to do so.

Spybot S&D
http://www.safer-networking.org/
Spybot works well with spywareblaster and compliment each other. It
will scan actively block what spywareblaster doesn't and then scan
for other issues that may be installed on the sly.

Adaware SE
http://www.lavasoft.de/software/adaware/
what spywareblaster and spybot misses....this program finds

Ccleaner (crap cleaner)
http://www.ccleaner.com/
Crap cleaner as it is called does exactly what it says....cleans all
the crap from your computer... Temporary files, URL history, cookies,
Autocomplete form history, index.dat. and acts as a registry cleaner
to clean out old file remnants to keep your system clean and running
fast.

Avast anti virus
http://www.avast.com/eng/programs.html
As it says a free anti virus scanner and detecter

And I especially love" Scotty the watch dog" from
winpatrol.
http://www.winpatrol.com/
this is a great program with ease of use to manage start-up programs,
Bho installations, and proccesses that are currently installed and
running in your system....and scotty maintains a watchful eye for any
programs that try to change the registry or install to start-up by
barking like a real watch dog protecting your home property.

All these programs are the free versions and are either constantly
monitoring or I run them at the least once a week if not more
depending on how much I am on the web. And of course updating is a
mandatory.
 
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