Spanish Judge says P2P Music Downloads are not a crime

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antioch said:
Well, you could have given us a translation :-)
Antioch

The above is a summation of what happened. Fair use in Spain is still
alive and kicking and the only pirates are those who copy for profit.

Alias
 
The above is a summation of what happened. Fair use in Spain is still
alive and kicking and the only pirates are those who copy for profit.

It's nice to know that in Spain you can purchase a CD, make 200 copies,
give it to your friends, and it's considered 100% legit.
 
Leythos said:
It's nice to know that in Spain you can purchase a CD, make 200 copies,
give it to your friends, and it's considered 100% legit.

Maybe a trend is starting. Wouldn't the Music/Software Industry love
that! Before you get too excited, note that a fee is charged on every
blank CD or DVD you buy in Spain, part of which goes to music companies.
People buy them in 500 packs.

Alias
 
Maybe a trend is starting. Wouldn't the Music/Software Industry love
that! Before you get too excited, note that a fee is charged on every
blank CD or DVD you buy in Spain, part of which goes to music companies.
People buy them in 500 packs.

Do that charge that fee even on CD's not intended for use in music,
those just for data (like backups)?

Since I can buy 100 blank CD-R's for about $10 here, what would the
increase for that fee add to the amount?
 
Maybe a trend is starting. Wouldn't the Music/Software Industry love that!
Before you get too excited, note that a fee is charged on every blank CD
or DVD you buy in Spain, part of which goes to music companies. People buy
them in 500 packs.

Have you guys heard of the Pirate Party?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party

The Pirate Party (Swedish: Piratpartiet) is a political party in
Sweden. The party strives to reform laws regarding intellectual
property, including copyright, patent and the protection of design. The
agenda also includes support for a strengthening of the right to
privacy (such as private property and private information), both on the
Internet and in everyday life. Since it does not have an agenda on any
other issues, the party claims it is not possible to place it anywhere
on the left-right scale.

<snip>

The Pirate Party captured 34918 or 0.63% of the overall votes in their
first participation at an election for parliament since the founding of
the party less than 10 months ago, becoming the 10th biggest party of
more than 40 among the parliament vote, placing third amongst the
parties outside of the parliament. A voting result at less than 4% does
not qualify for seats in the Swedish Parliament. Getting more than 1%
of the vote would have granted the party financial assistance from the
state for printing ballots while at least 2.5% would grant them
state-fundings for the next election. Despite the setbacks, Falkvinge
is already planning for the 2009 European Union elections and the 2010
Swedish election.
 
Alias said:
Maybe a trend is starting. Wouldn't the Music/Software Industry love
that! Before you get too excited, note that a fee is charged on every
blank CD or DVD you buy in Spain, part of which goes to music companies.
People buy them in 500 packs.

Alias

Supposedly if you buy blank Music cd's. cassette tapes, stand alone
cd/dvd burners, ect., (this does not include cd/dvd burners for
computers), in the U.S, part of the purchase price goes to the recording
industry to pay royalties for any music you may burn. So why can you
get into trouble for burning music for yourself if you already paid the
royalties?
 
Leythos said:
Do that charge that fee even on CD's not intended for use in music,
those just for data (like backups)?
Yep.

Since I can buy 100 blank CD-R's for about $10 here, what would the
increase for that fee add to the amount?

Don't know the percentage. CD-Rs go for about 35 euro cents a piece here
so if you're getting them for 10 US cents ... The euro is worth $1.28
USD today.

Thanks for the info. I have a friend in the US who will be here soon.
I'll get him to bring me some CD-Rs along with the Levis. Levis here go
for $US150 a pair.

Alias
 
Alias said:
Don't know the percentage. CD-Rs go for about 35 euro cents a piece
here so if you're getting them for 10 US cents ... The euro is worth
$1.28 USD today.

Thanks for the info. I have a friend in the US who will be here soon.
I'll get him to bring me some CD-Rs along with the Levis. Levis here
go for $US150 a pair.

Alias

A few years ago, we had an exchange student from Spain for a year and then
later his brother and sister came to stay for the summers. They would go to
second hand stores and buy used Levis that were in good shape and take them
back to sell to friends.
Do they have a limit to the number of blank CDs you can bring into the
country? When going into Mexico, the limit is under 5, I think. I don't
know how closely they check because the last 2 times I went there, I got the
green light at the entry. But I did hear of others who had their CDs
confiscated for having too many.
 
RA said:
A few years ago, we had an exchange student from Spain for a year and then
later his brother and sister came to stay for the summers. They would go to
second hand stores and buy used Levis that were in good shape and take them
back to sell to friends.
Do they have a limit to the number of blank CDs you can bring into the
country?

I don't know.
When going into Mexico, the limit is under 5, I think. I don't
know how closely they check because the last 2 times I went there, I got the
green light at the entry. But I did hear of others who had their CDs
confiscated for having too many.

The last time I went to Mexico, I took out a ten dollar bill and, in
Spanish, yelled out if anyone could help me. Twenty porters rushed up
and I selected one and we went right to the taxi, no customs, no nothing.

Alias
 
Alias said:
I don't know.


The last time I went to Mexico, I took out a ten dollar bill and, in
Spanish, yelled out if anyone could help me. Twenty porters rushed up
and I selected one and we went right to the taxi, no customs, no
nothing.
Alias

When was that? In February, I didn't see any porters until well past the
luggage inspectors.
But I suppose the security setup in each airport is different.
 
RA said:
When was that? In February, I didn't see any porters until well past the
luggage inspectors.
But I suppose the security setup in each airport is different.

It was a long time ago, pre 9/11, although the porters were on the other
side when I went but when they say the ten spot, they rushed over. It
was the Mexico City airport.

Alias
 
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