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Is there builtin spam protection for XP (or Outlook Express)?

Thanks,
Jeff
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merizos said:
Is there builtin spam protection for XP (or Outlook Express)?
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No. Spam protection comes either from your ISP or with antispam software
(usually third-party software, but Outlook--not Outlook Express--comes with
it too).
 
Report all your SPAM to http://www.spamcop.net or one of the others like
ROKSO, SPAMHAUS, SBL, OPEN SBL

You also have services like:

(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

With SPAM COP make sure you are not hiding your e-mail from reporting when
you sign up for free because then so SPAM gangs will see you are getting
their IPs (MX's) blocked & will remove you to SPAM others instead.

I love SPAM because I report it 100% of the time to 6 SPAM databases & find
out which server has the SPAM originated from too. Big hobby of mine & hence
my name is '(e-mail address removed)'

I hope the above is useful
 
merizos said:
Is there builtin spam protection for XP (or Outlook Express)?
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Stop SPAM and other malware! Create two mail rules in OE.

_First rule:_

A. In "Select the conditions for your rule" click "Where the from line
contains people", click "contains people", click Address Book, click
the first name, shift-click the last, click "From" button, click OK.

B. In "Select the actions for your rule", click "Stop processing more
rules". This will let everyone in your address book fall through to
your Inbox.

C. Name the rule "Pass".

_Second rule:_

A. In "Select the conditions for your rule" click "For all messages"

B. In "Select the actions for your rule", click "Delete it".

C. Name the rule "Delete".

This deletes the unwanted emails to the Deleted Items folder; it doesn't
permanently delete anything. You might want to set OE to delete the
Deleted Items folder every time you close OE, but one disadvantage: You
could have to close OE in a hurry sometimes before you have a chance to
check for missed messages.

Advantages:

1. No SPAM or other malware! No amount of filtering by sender or
subject matter will prevent spammers; they use a different subject and
address every few days. But this setup prevents ALL SPAM from
fictitious addresses.

2. Few Viruses! Only viruses from those who have your email address in
their address book.

3. The biggest advantage, after checking through subject lines in the
Deleted Items folder, you can delete all the spam, etc. without viewing
them. Right-click "Deleted Items", click "Empty Deleted Items folder".
This way, short of viewing the first email in the list, no other email
is actually opened.

Disadvantages:

1. You'll have to look in the Deleted Items folder for blocked email. If
you find a mail you actually want, just drag it into the Inbox till you
add that address to the Pass filter.

2. To add addresses to the filter, you'll have to edit it, click
"contains people", click "Address Book" again, and add any new
addresses. That can be an occasional nuisance, but otherwise you'll be
creating many mail rules for SPAM.

You can create a SPAM folder and send the blocked emails there, rather
than select the "Delete it" option. Occasionally look in the folder for
missed mails, then delete the remainder to the "Deleted Items" folder.
(Press Shift/Delete to bypass the Deleted Items folder.)
 
Most Malware comes in EXE format anyway. So you can just tick the checkbox
about disallowing unsafe extensions & then you cannot save/execute it
anyway. Plus if you have a decent firewall & not relying on the Windows XP
SP 2 one that will block it from also being executed
 
Elmo said:
Stop SPAM and other malware! Create two mail rules in OE.

_First rule:_

A. In "Select the conditions for your rule" click "Where the from line
contains people", click "contains people", click Address Book, click
the first name, shift-click the last, click "From" button, click OK.

B. In "Select the actions for your rule", click "Stop processing more
rules". This will let everyone in your address book fall through to
your Inbox.

C. Name the rule "Pass".

_Second rule:_

A. In "Select the conditions for your rule" click "For all messages"

B. In "Select the actions for your rule", click "Delete it".

C. Name the rule "Delete".

This deletes the unwanted emails to the Deleted Items folder; it doesn't
permanently delete anything. You might want to set OE to delete the
Deleted Items folder every time you close OE, but one disadvantage: You
could have to close OE in a hurry sometimes before you have a chance to
check for missed messages.

Advantages:

1. No SPAM or other malware! No amount of filtering by sender or
subject matter will prevent spammers; they use a different subject and
address every few days. But this setup prevents ALL SPAM from
fictitious addresses.

2. Few Viruses! Only viruses from those who have your email address in
their address book.

3. The biggest advantage, after checking through subject lines in the
Deleted Items folder, you can delete all the spam, etc. without viewing
them. Right-click "Deleted Items", click "Empty Deleted Items folder".
This way, short of viewing the first email in the list, no other email
is actually opened.

Disadvantages:

1. You'll have to look in the Deleted Items folder for blocked email. If
you find a mail you actually want, just drag it into the Inbox till you
add that address to the Pass filter.

2. To add addresses to the filter, you'll have to edit it, click
"contains people", click "Address Book" again, and add any new
addresses. That can be an occasional nuisance, but otherwise you'll be
creating many mail rules for SPAM.

You can create a SPAM folder and send the blocked emails there, rather
than select the "Delete it" option. Occasionally look in the folder for
missed mails, then delete the remainder to the "Deleted Items" folder.
(Press Shift/Delete to bypass the Deleted Items folder.)
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Your method would only work for people who only communicate with people
in their address book. If you run a business and depend on strangers
asking about your products or services, you'd be better off with an
email program like Thunderbird or Pegasus that have a proper built-in
anti-spam program.

Alias
 
If you have a business & are using MS Exchange for example then you can
point it to check against the real-time SPAM databases like
http://www.spamcop.net for example. Therefore, you wouldn't need a thir
party package
 
Newbie said:
If you have a business & are using MS Exchange for example then you can
point it to check against the real-time SPAM databases like
http://www.spamcop.net for example. Therefore, you wouldn't need a thir
party package
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Thunderbird or Pegasus are a lot cheaper than MS Exchange.

Alias
 
Newbie said:
Most Malware comes in EXE format anyway. So you can just tick the
checkbox about disallowing unsafe extensions
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Malware comes with lots of different extensions. Making such assumptions
about what it is dangerous and what is not is extremely dangerous.

& then you cannot
save/execute it anyway. Plus if you have a decent firewall & not
relying on the Windows XP SP 2 one that will block it from also being
executed
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The Windows XP firewall (which didn't begin in SP2, by the way) *is* a
decent firewall, and does a good job of protecting you against inbound
intrusions. Its main weakness is that it doesn't protect you against threats
in the other direction--rogue programs trying to call home.
 
merizos said:
Is there builtin spam protection for XP (or Outlook Express)?

Thanks,
Jeff
(e-mail address removed)
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How we wish there was. Compromised Windoze boxes contribute to 90% of the
spam out there.

Cheers.

--

"Computer users around the globe recognize that the most serious threats to
security exist because of inherent weaknesses in the Microsoft operating
system." McAfee

"Vista is finally secure from hacking. No one is going to 'hack' the product
activation and try and steal the o/s. Anyone smart enough to do so ... is
also smart enough not to want to bother." philo
 
merizos said:
Is there builtin spam protection for XP (or Outlook Express)?

Thanks,
Jeff
(e-mail address removed)
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No.

While it's not possible to completely eliminate spam (unsolicited
commercial email), there are some precautions and steps you can take to
minimize it's impact:

1) Never, ever post your real email address to publicly accessible
forums or newsgroups, such as this one, as it appears that you have
done. For years now, spammers have been using software utilities to
scan such places to harvest email addresses. It's a simple matter to
disguise your posted email address so that these software "bots" can't
obtain anything useful. For example, insert some obviously bogus
characters or words into your reply address, for example:
"(e-mail address removed)."

2) Never, ever reply to any spam you receive, even to "unsubscribe" or
"remove" yourself from the spammers' address lists; you'll only compound
the problem. If spammers had any intention of honoring the your desire
not to receive spam, they wouldn't have become spammers in the first
place. When you reply to a spammer, all you're doing is confirming that
he/she has a valid, marketable email address.

3) Be especially leery of any offers from websites for free software,
services, information, etc, that require your email address, or that
require your email address so you can "login" to access the offered
service and/or information. Many such sites are supplementing their
income by collecting addresses to sell to the spammers. For instance,
subscribing to CNN.COM's Breaking News Service will garner you a lot of
additional spam. (Of course, not all such sites have under-handed
motives; it's a judgment call. If the offer seems "too good to be
true," it's most likely a scam.)

4) DO forward any and all spam, with complete headers, to the
originating ISP with a complaint. Not all ISPs will make an effort to
shut down the spammers, but many will. One tool that makes forwarding
such complaints fairly simple is SpamCop (http://spamcop.net).

4) Another useful tool is MailWasher (http://www.mailwasher.net). This
utility allows you to preview your email before downloading it from the
server. Spammers can even be blacklisted, so that any future emails
from them will be automatically deleted from the server.

5) Within Outlook Express, add any spammers to your Blocked Senders
list, so the their messages are automatically deleted from the server
without being downloaded to your PC.



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Maybe its cheaper, but how many MS Exchange users are there compared to the
ones you mentioned?

I once saw a 5 user lincensed version of Mail Daemon on a computer magazine
CD. That is cheaper still. LOL. Doesn't mean to say cheaper are better or
expensive are for that matter either.

Would you still use those products on a 2003 AD system when MS Exchange
intergrates so well?
 
Your method would only work for people who only communicate with people
in their address book. If you run a business and depend on strangers
asking about your products or services, you'd be better off with an
email program like Thunderbird or Pegasus that have a proper built-in
anti-spam program.

Alias
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Agreed. In that case, where many clients might email you, this wouldn't
be practical, since it's a bit involved to add names to the first rule
each time.

But for many individuals, a cursory look at the senders in the Deleted
Items folder before closing OE, can work quite well. A quick drag back
to the Inbox preserves the email till it can be opened, and the sender
added to the rule.
 
Newbie said:
Maybe its cheaper, but how many MS Exchange users are there compared to the
ones you mentioned?

I once saw a 5 user lincensed version of Mail Daemon on a computer magazine
CD. That is cheaper still. LOL. Doesn't mean to say cheaper are better or
expensive are for that matter either.

Would you still use those products on a 2003 AD system when MS Exchange
intergrates so well?
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Is it really true that you've never heard of Thunderbird or Pegasus?

Alias
 
Elmo said:
Agreed. In that case, where many clients might email you, this wouldn't
be practical, since it's a bit involved to add names to the first rule
each time.

But for many individuals, a cursory look at the senders in the Deleted
Items folder before closing OE, can work quite well. A quick drag back
to the Inbox preserves the email till it can be opened, and the sender
added to the rule.
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I still don't understand how that makes OE a better choice.

Alias
 
Alias said:
I still don't understand how that makes OE a better choice.

Alias
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Huh? The OP mentioned they used OE. I suggested a way to filter SPAM
without more overhead.
 
Elmo said:
Huh? The OP mentioned they used OE. I suggested a way to filter SPAM
without more overhead.
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And I suggested a better way to avoid Spam, being as OE isn't really set
up to do the job.

Alias
 
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