SP2 and IE7

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I downloaded the Network Installation version of SP2, as recommended here.
If I install it, will it also install IE7 - automatically, or do I have a
choice? After all I've read about IE7 here and elsewhere, I certainly DON'T
WANT IT! Thanks for your help!
 
IE 7 is *not* part of SP2, which came out long before IE 7.

|I downloaded the Network Installation version of SP2, as recommended here.
| If I install it, will it also install IE7 - automatically, or do I have a
| choice? After all I've read about IE7 here and elsewhere, I certainly
DON'T
| WANT IT! Thanks for your help!
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Installing SP2 does not install IE7, but it does update IE6.
Installing IE7 enhances the security far beyond IE6 capabilities.
I would encourage you to also install IE7.

Visit: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx?mg_ID=10010


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| I downloaded the Network Installation version of SP2, as recommended here.
| If I install it, will it also install IE7 - automatically, or do I have a
| choice? After all I've read about IE7 here and elsewhere, I certainly DON'T
| WANT IT! Thanks for your help!
|
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I downloaded the Network Installation version of SP2, as recommended here.
If I install it, will it also install IE7 - automatically, or do I have a
choice? After all I've read about IE7 here and elsewhere, I certainly
DON'T
WANT IT! Thanks for your help!

No, thief network install version of SP2 does not contain IE7. It also
doesn't contain the 70+ post SP2 updates. After installing SP2 you'll need
to go to windows update and get the post SP2 updates. Those will offer you
IE7, so just hide it.
 
ged said:
I downloaded the Network Installation version of SP2, as recommended
here. If I install it, will it also install IE7 - automatically, or
do I have a choice?


No, it will not install IE7, automatically or otherwise. There is no choice,
since SP2 is completely separate from IE7.

After all I've read about IE7 here and elsewhere,
I certainly DON'T WANT IT! Thanks for your help!


Your choice, of course, but I think you'd be making a serious mistake by not
installing IE7. I have two points to make about this:

1. Whenever a new version of *anything* comes out, you always read about
people having problems with it. But realize two things:

a. If you're reading about problems *here*, this where people come
with
their problems, not with their successes. You get a very distorted
view
of what's going on in the real world here; as someone once said,
"hang
around a transmission shop and you will think that all cars have
transmission problems."

b. Most problems, by far, that people report here--whether or not they
are
IE7-related--have nothing to do with defects in the software. They
result
from people's ignorance, from bad or inadequate hardware, from old
drivers, from viruses, from spyware, and so on. And except for very
rare
situations, they always get a fix for their problems, and in most
cases, that
fix is a very simple one to implement.

2. Notwithstanding the above, whenever you install anything new, there is
always some risk. Whether to install it or not is your choice, but
personally I see no reason not to. Recognize that much of what's new in IE7
is security-related, so if you don't install it, your security exposure is
increased. There's *some* risk either way, but my view is the risk is
considerably greater if you *don't* install it.

I've installed IE7 on all three of my own machines and on those of several
others. I have experienced *no* IE7-related problems on any of them.
 
No, thief network install version of SP2 does not contain IE7. It also
doesn't contain the 70+ post SP2 updates. After installing SP2 you'll
need to go to windows update and get the post SP2 updates. Those will
offer you IE7, so just hide it.

How did "the" get to be "thief" in the first sentence - I don't know. lol
 
ged said:
I downloaded the Network Installation version of SP2, as recommended here.
If I install it, will it also install IE7 - automatically, or do I have a
choice? After all I've read about IE7 here and elsewhere, I certainly
DON'T
WANT IT! Thanks for your help!

I'd advise you not to insatll SP2. It bloats XP and slows down your machine
like you wont believe. Much of the bloat is caused by the added security
that MS have added - but basically, it doesn't work.

Stick with SP1 and you'll be happy.

Keith Manning
 
I'd advise you not to insatll SP2. It bloats XP and slows down your
machine like you wont believe. Much of the bloat is caused by the
added security that MS have added - but basically, it doesn't work.


You're welcome to that opinion, but I'll present the opposite opinion to
ged. It would be foolhardy not to install SP2--it should have been installed
long ago. SP2 provides many security enhancements to Windows XP, and it
*does* work. It doesn't slow down any of my machines, nor any of the others
I've installed it on, at all.
 
I'd advise you not to insatll SP2. It bloats XP and slows down your
machine like you wont believe. Much of the bloat is caused by the added
security that MS have added - but basically, it doesn't work.

SP2 is an important update. For one thing updates are only being released
now for SP2. It would be silly to not install it. There are many changes
with SP2, much of the code was rewritten to remove the buffer overflow
problems. Security is greatly improved.

I have not seen any slow down due to SP2 on this or other systems. Some
people have posted about an initial slow down, but this normally will sort
itself after 3 or so days. Reboot a few times and defrag several times, the
system optimization will run during an idle time within that 3 days and
speed things up. Occasionally a program might not be happy, and cause some
slow downs. There are steps you can take to identify what program that is,
and normally a uninstall/reinstall will fix it.

I don't understand what he means when he says "but basically, it doesn't
work." Make sure the system is ready for it, is running well, and has no
malware. Keith is entitled to his opinion but I suggest you not follow it.
 
No, installing WinXP SP2 does not install IE7.

Do NOT disable Automatic Updates (AU) to avoid installing IE7!

Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com > Allow the initial scan to
complete > Select CUSTOM install > Scan again > Uncheck IE7 and "hide" it >
AU now will not offer you IE7;

or...

Change your AU settings to Notify Only; When IE7 is offered, decline to
install it and "hide" it.

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306525

NB: If the installer for IE7 has already been downloaded by AU, you will
need to stop the AU service, delete the installer (and any other updates
already downloaded but not yet installed), and then restart the AU service.
Follow these directions:

1. Start > Run > (type in) services.msc > [OK]

Scroll down to and right-click on Automatic Updates service > Click Stop
(Stopping the service will take a moment) > [OK] your way out and close the
Services window.

2. Start > Run > (type in) %windir%\SoftwareDistribution > [OK]

Open the Download folder, delete its contents, then close the folder.

3. Start > Run > (type in) services.msc > [OK]

Scroll down to and right-click on Automatic Updates service > Click Start
(Starting the service will take a moment) > [OK] your way out and close the
Services window.
 
I'd advise you not to insatll SP2.

I question that advisory. SP2 patches quite a few security holes that
became public after SP1 that are being exploited in the wild.
It bloats XP and slows down your machine like you wont believe.

XP itself is bloated and slows down your machine. That's what you were
buying into when you purchased Windows, the only way to avoid this is to
not use Windows.
Much of the bloat is caused by the added security that MS have added - but
basically, it doesn't work.

The patches supplied with SP2 do work, but that doesn't mean that Windows
doesn't have more security flaws that weren't covered. Some coverage is
better than none.
 
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