sorbs - what is it

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Anyone familiar with Sorbs.

What is it and what does it do?

It appears someone cannot send my wife e-mail because of it.



Thanks for any info.
 
Netter said:
Anyone familiar with Sorbs.
What is it and what does it do?
It appears someone cannot send my wife e-mail because of it.
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It appears to be an anti-spam thing.
 
I guessed that but was wondering what it does.

How I got it's attention, for example.

I'm a nice guy, why is it picking on me???

Thanks
 
You'll have to ask *it*


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contact your ISP and let them know...someone using the same node you areis
probably sending spam...so it added the IP to its database.

this database is used by antispam filters to block this IP

we've gotten tagged a couple of times and our ISP took care of it :>

Netter said:
I guessed that but was wondering what it does.

How I got it's attention, for example.

I'm a nice guy, why is it picking on me???

Thanks
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Netter said:
I guessed that but was wondering what it does.
How I got it's attention, for example.
I'm a nice guy, why is it picking on me???
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Well you "guessed" it for obvious reasons. Spam has a zero tolerance
these days for most webhosting companies.
They certainly dont want to be black listed down the line for crap
that's done with your account, even if it's just sending UCE to 10
people.
 
Haggis said:
contact your ISP and let them know...someone using the same node you areis
probably sending spam...so it added the IP to its database.

this database is used by antispam filters to block this IP

we've gotten tagged a couple of times and our ISP took care of it :>
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Correct. Legit persons usually have nothing to worry about but:

If the Legit person has an "easy to hack password" then in many cases
the host may still diss the account as they wont want to deal with the
problem.
 
DanS said:
And it appears to cost $50 to get the IP un-blocked, supposedly payable by
the ISP to a list of charities.
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As far as I know. Legit blacklisters dont charge for unblocking.
 
Thanks for the info

Haggis said:
contact your ISP and let them know...someone using the same node you areis
probably sending spam...so it added the IP to its database.

this database is used by antispam filters to block this IP

we've gotten tagged a couple of times and our ISP took care of it :>
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Tom said:
Your IP address may not be used for spam, but SORBs will list entire blocks
of IP addresses if even one IP has been used for spam. This penalizes
innocent users.
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Yes I see. Lets say one has a dialup and spams from xxx.xxx.xxx.yyy

If the spammer relogs on his IP will change to xxx.xxx.xxx.zzz

So, the anti-spammer thinggy boots anyone from xxx.xxx.xxx.*

Which cuts out all the legit users using xxx.xxx.xxx.*

If you have a guestbook one has to also use this method tho it cuts out
legit users.
 
Plato said:
As far as I know. Legit blacklisters dont charge for unblocking.
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That's what I got from the webpage.....

http://www.us.sorbs.net/faq/spamdb.shtml

"SORBS will not delist you without paying the 'fine' for any of these
reasons. However, if the listing is a part of a wider range that is
blocked you the end-user are not required to pay the SORBS 'fine' as the
entry was not generated because of your actions. In such a case only the
Internet service provider involved can address the matter."

Then .....

"The 'fine' was created to stop spammers from quickly removing themselves
from the database. It also has the side effect of reminding people the
hard way that they are responsible for their own actions.

Putting an unpatched, unfirewalled Microsoft Windows® machine on the
Internet is irresponsible in the highest degree, installing a proxy
server and leaving it open for the world to use is both foolish and
irresponsible, yet people are doing these things every day, and no one is
telling them they can't or that it is wrong.

The 'fine' is US $50.00 and is designed to be small enough to so that the
home user will think twice about getting listed a second time, and small
enough to be a 'right royal pain in the butt' to any large company, the
idea being that whether you are a multi-national company or a single home
user, you will think twice about getting relisted for any reason.

Needless to say, the 'fine' policy has proved controversial, particularly
with those listed. It has also received negative press from several large
U.S. ISPs (surprisingly enough, ones who are affected by listings). We
would request that anyone disagreeing with SORBS policies would please
read on and send feedback as indicated below."
 
So someone with an IP address close to mine sent spam.

Who is using SORBS to block mail.

It appears it is the ISP of the one sending to me.

If I had send (or appeared to send) spam I would expect the receiver to
refuse additional mail from me. But why block the receiver from sending mail
to the spammer? Does that make sense.

Also, I do receive some mail from the same person who is sometimes blocked.
It may be that Replies fail and CreatMail succeeds. Does that make sense?


Thank
 
Plato said:
As far as I know. Legit blacklisters dont charge for unblocking.
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You should get out more. SORBS is one of the premier blacklisting sites and
used by more administrators than probably any other.
 
Netter said:
So someone with an IP address close to mine sent spam.

It appears it is the ISP of the one sending to me.
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The statements above are mutually contradictory. If the person sending mail
to you is getting blocked, your ISP is using SORBS to protect your mailbox.
Who is using SORBS to block mail.
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Who knows? It's a publically-available list. I would guess that most
spam-savy administrators use it; I know several government agencies (SSA,
VA) do.
If I had send (or appeared to send) spam I would expect the receiver
to refuse additional mail from me. But why block the receiver from
sending mail to the spammer? Does that make sense.
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It happens.
Also, I do receive some mail from the same person who is sometimes
blocked. It may be that Replies fail and CreatMail succeeds. Does
that make sense?
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It may be that the message is determined to be spam ad hoc, that is, based
on content not point of origin. If, for example, the message contains the
words PENIS, VIAGRA, and ROLEX, the "score" may be so high as to qualify
that one message as spam.

Visit the newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email for questions of this genre.
 
It makes sense now.

It is actually the ISP of the sender that is blacklisted, not me.

So mail from the sender is being refused by my ISP - which makes sense.



Thanks
 
DanS said:
Putting an unpatched, unfirewalled Microsoft Windows® machine on the
Internet is irresponsible in the highest degree, installing a proxy
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You'd think that "fact" would be on the box of any new MS OS.
 
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