Solution to Piracy

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Windows XP Home, $50, three for $125

Window XP Pro, $75, three for $175.

No OEM, only retail.

I know there are people who would still software even it's priced at one
dollar. They are an insignificant minority, however.

Alias
 
So what is your solution ? To sell more piracy copies ? Where are these so
call copies ?

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: Windows XP Home, $50, three for $125
:
: Window XP Pro, $75, three for $175.
:
: No OEM, only retail.
:
: I know there are people who would still software even it's priced at one
: dollar. They are an insignificant minority, however.
:
: Alias
 
RoadRunner said:
So what is your solution ? To sell more piracy copies ? Where are
these so call copies ?
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LOL!

MS's solution to piracy is to overcharge paying customers in the West to
cover the piracy of the East.

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Kurt Kirsch
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http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
LOL

Don't being saying that , then the people living from the west will all
move to the east, where i am
: RoadRunner wrote:
:
: > So what is your solution ? To sell more piracy copies ? Where are
: > these so call copies ?
:
: LOL!
:
: MS's solution to piracy is to overcharge paying customers in the West to
: cover the piracy of the East.
:
: --
: Peace!
: Kurt Kirsch
: Self-anointed Moderator
: http://microscum.com
: "It'll soon shake your Windows
: And rattle your walls
: For the times they are a-changin'."
:
:
 
Alias said:
Windows XP Home, $50, three for $125

Window XP Pro, $75, three for $175.

No OEM, only retail.

I know there are people who would steal software even it's priced at one
dollar. They are an insignificant minority, however.

Alias
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This is a throwback to the 1980's when everybody had to buy
or pay for a MS-DOS with the sale of a desktop system. Pricing
was also reasonable, perhaps $25 for the diskettes and a full
manual. Licensing also allowed the OS to be transferred from
one machine to another regardless of whether it ws retailed or
came through an OEM, but so long as it was limited to one machine
at any given time. Even then, pirating was rampant because the
cost of 3 to 5 floppy diskettes was still cheaper. The way to
beat win is to beat the pirates at their own game.
 
Mistoffolees said:
This is a throwback to the 1980's when everybody had to buy
or pay for a MS-DOS with the sale of a desktop system. Pricing
was also reasonable, perhaps $25 for the diskettes and a full
manual. Licensing also allowed the OS to be transferred from
one machine to another regardless of whether it ws retailed or
came through an OEM, but so long as it was limited to one machine
at any given time. Even then, pirating was rampant because the
cost of 3 to 5 floppy diskettes was still cheaper. The way to
beat win is to beat the pirates at their own game.
Click to expand...

The crack for the new WGA came out minutes later. Cat and mouse games
with crackers at the expense of paying customers is not "beating the
pirates at their own game" It's stupid. Lower the prices of XP and the
pirates are out of business and the paying customers will be happy.

Alias
 
@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

The crack for the new WGA came out minutes later. Cat and mouse games
with crackers at the expense of paying customers is not "beating the
pirates at their own game" It's stupid. Lower the prices of XP and the
pirates are out of business and the paying customers will be happy.

Alias
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Frankly, I don't think the 'crackers' motivation is money at all. The
huge majority people using 'pirated' software, cracks & keygens, obtain
them completely free with no cost other than his/her internet access.

It's an intellectual reward for beating 'The Man'.

Of course, that is not to say a new (lower) pricing policy can't benefit
everyone in the long run. The big money for OS sales is through large
OEMs which will always be there, so an increase of retail sales would
probably bring in M$ more revenue.

I question whether retail sales of Vista are going to be strong at any
point. The last really 'innovative' product M$ had released was the
switch from Windows 3.11 to Windows 95. With Vista, the six or seven
different flavors that are supposed to be available will be confusing to
many.

Sorry I just don't see the fuss about an overdue OS, with many of its
highly-touted (at the beginning) features removed, that will require
significant hardware upgrades to even be able to utilize its new UI sytem
as being a 'must-have'. Just as many of the users of Windows98 say of XP.
 
Alias said:
The crack for the new WGA came out minutes later. Cat and mouse games
with crackers at the expense of paying customers is not "beating the
pirates at their own game" It's stupid. Lower the prices of XP and the
pirates are out of business and the paying customers will be happy.

Alias
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An interesting opportunity awaits Microsoft that might change
its dogma on licensing and alter the pricing paradigm that has
resulted from its current track. No doubt, Microsoft would allow
upgrades to Vista only from "genuine" copies of Windows XP. If
Microsoft made everyone's XP "genuine" through a patch, reduce
the price of Vista to reasonable and fair, single-unit pricing
(i.e., as it was in the 1980's when there were no "corporate"
discounts or volume licensing or even "incentive", i.e., OEM,
licensing), then a lot of the ill will should disappear and
Microsoft's profitability should remain unchanged since the
losses to external factors would be significantly reduced.

If the MVP's want to score some points, it is about time they
started bending the tail on the tiger instead of parroting the
party line.
 
Mistoffolees said:
An interesting opportunity awaits Microsoft that might change
its dogma on licensing and alter the pricing paradigm that has
resulted from its current track. No doubt, Microsoft would allow
upgrades to Vista only from "genuine" copies of Windows XP. If
Microsoft made everyone's XP "genuine" through a patch, reduce
the price of Vista to reasonable and fair, single-unit pricing
(i.e., as it was in the 1980's when there were no "corporate"
discounts or volume licensing or even "incentive", i.e., OEM,
licensing), then a lot of the ill will should disappear and
Microsoft's profitability should remain unchanged since the
losses to external factors would be significantly reduced.

If the MVP's want to score some points, it is about time they
started bending the tail on the tiger instead of parroting the
party line.
Click to expand...

Sure. Happy dreams. Won't happen because this is a different era
where cost-recovery of R&D is more important than putting volume
into the marketplace. The important milestone is not how many units
were sold but what is the profitability.
 
Its the power of the co-operate world , The future is all about how strong
your company is going to be ( share holders corruptions/greed )

:
: Mistoffolees wrote:
: >
: > Alias wrote:
: >
: >> Mistoffolees wrote:
: >>
: >>>
: >>> Alias wrote:
: >>>
: >>>> Windows XP Home, $50, three for $125
: >>>>
: >>>> Window XP Pro, $75, three for $175.
: >>>>
: >>>> No OEM, only retail.
: >>>>
: >>>> I know there are people who would steal software even it's priced at
: >>>> one dollar. They are an insignificant minority, however.
: >>>>
: >>>> Alias
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> This is a throwback to the 1980's when everybody had to buy
: >>> or pay for a MS-DOS with the sale of a desktop system. Pricing
: >>> was also reasonable, perhaps $25 for the diskettes and a full
: >>> manual. Licensing also allowed the OS to be transferred from
: >>> one machine to another regardless of whether it ws retailed or
: >>> came through an OEM, but so long as it was limited to one machine
: >>> at any given time. Even then, pirating was rampant because the
: >>> cost of 3 to 5 floppy diskettes was still cheaper. The way to
: >>> beat win is to beat the pirates at their own game.
: >>>
: >>
: >> The crack for the new WGA came out minutes later. Cat and mouse games
: >> with crackers at the expense of paying customers is not "beating the
: >> pirates at their own game" It's stupid. Lower the prices of XP and the
: >> pirates are out of business and the paying customers will be happy.
: >>
: >> Alias
: >
: >
: >
: > An interesting opportunity awaits Microsoft that might change
: > its dogma on licensing and alter the pricing paradigm that has
: > resulted from its current track. No doubt, Microsoft would allow
: > upgrades to Vista only from "genuine" copies of Windows XP. If
: > Microsoft made everyone's XP "genuine" through a patch, reduce
: > the price of Vista to reasonable and fair, single-unit pricing
: > (i.e., as it was in the 1980's when there were no "corporate"
: > discounts or volume licensing or even "incentive", i.e., OEM,
: > licensing), then a lot of the ill will should disappear and
: > Microsoft's profitability should remain unchanged since the
: > losses to external factors would be significantly reduced.
: >
: > If the MVP's want to score some points, it is about time they
: > started bending the tail on the tiger instead of parroting the
: > party line.
: >
:
: Sure. Happy dreams. Won't happen because this is a different era
: where cost-recovery of R&D is more important than putting volume
: into the marketplace. The important milestone is not how many units
: were sold but what is the profitability.
:
 
RoadRunner said:
Its the power of the co-operate world , The future is all about how
strong your company is going to be ( share holders corruptions/greed )
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Greed is good. As one worthy said: "If not for greed, no man would build a
house, marry, or father a child."

An operating system is like sex: if you want it for free, you can do it
yourself. Or you can buy dinner.
 
Greed is only good to an extent that it is enough for everybody's
needs. The sooner you pass this threshold, there is a problem; Wars
become a common place.
 
I always thought that piracy has ben eradicated since Jupitor Jones
became a watch dog of this Newsgroup.
 
kurttrail said:
LOL!

MS's solution to piracy is to overcharge paying customers in the West to
cover the piracy of the East.
Click to expand...

this has always been the case in the west. For example, on London buses
fare dodging is a big problem so our Mayor, Ken Livingstone, decided to
raise fares for all honest, fare paying passengers! Result - more fare
dodging - upto 30 million a year; I guess come 2012 the transport
system in London would be completely free and all honest tax payers will
subsidise it!!
 
ANONYMOUS said:
I always thought that piracy has ben eradicated since Jupitor Jones
became a watch dog of this Newsgroup.
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No. Now scratching your balls while looking at your monitor is piracy.

Nowadays, with the likes of Juppy & Carey, almost anything you do with
your purchased software is piracy.

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
ANONYMOUS said:
Greed is only good to an extent that it is enough for everybody's
needs. The sooner you pass this threshold, there is a problem; Wars
become a common place.
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The ones to watch out for are anger, greed and stupidity. Those are the
forces inherent in human life that cause all the problems.

Alias
 
Alias said:
The ones to watch out for are anger, greed and stupidity. Those are the
forces inherent in human life that cause all the problems.

Alias
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LOL! I guess Billy Gates is thrice damned on that one!
 
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