Shut down issue - PLEASE HELP!!

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Windows does not shut down correctly on two computers = new problem. One is
a Dell Precision 380 and the other a Dell Inpsiron 6000 Notebook. The
computer goes to the screen that shows the small Windows XP icon slightly
off center, where there is usually a little line that has a gradient ramp,
and the gradient ramp moves across the line to show you the computer is
doing something. Then the gradient ramp stops moving and that is where the
computer leaves it. I am still able to move the mouse arrow at this time.

This is an issue that arose simultaneously on two computers - my home laptop
and work computer. For my part, I havn't made any changes to either computer
that are in common. I thought, therefore, it might be update related....? I
did recently upgrade the memory in the laptop, however the Precision
computer workstation remains unchanged.
 
Top said:
Windows does not shut down correctly on two computers = new problem.
One is a Dell Precision 380 and the other a Dell Inpsiron 6000
Notebook. The computer goes to the screen that shows the small
Windows XP icon slightly off center, where there is usually a little
line that has a gradient ramp, and the gradient ramp moves across the
line to show you the computer is doing something. Then the gradient
ramp stops moving and that is where the computer leaves it. I am
still able to move the mouse arrow at this time.
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There's good information on shutdown problems here:
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm
 
No good. This was my first stop when I started having the problem,
but it doesn't have the answer I need.
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OK, then sorry, I have no further suggestions for you. But let me suggest
for the future that when you ask about a problem here, you let us know what
you've already tried, and save us the trouble of posting unhelpful
information.
 
Ken Blake said:
OK, then sorry, I have no further suggestions for you. But let me suggest
for the future that when you ask about a problem here, you let us know
what you've already tried, and save us the trouble of posting unhelpful
information.
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As long as you promise, in future, to please read the post. The material you
sent me does not address my problem in any way. It is about certain types of
shut down problems which are unrelated to my post.
 
"Top Poster"wrote
As long as you promise, in future, to please read the post. The material
you sent me does not address my problem in any way. It is about certain
types of shut down problems which are unrelated to my post.
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The people who post in here are volunteers who try to help others. It would
probably benefit you to appreciate attempts by folks to help, otherwise it
might decrease the amount of help offered. We are not sitting at your
computer, it is not always clear what the underlying problem is, or what the
solution might be.

When you post a question you should post the steps you took to resolve it
to avoid just this situation. Here is a link to some information on how to
make a good newsgroup post. Good luck with your issue.

Making Good Newsgroup Posts
 
Rock said:
"Top Poster"wrote


The people who post in here are volunteers who try to help others. It
would probably benefit you to appreciate attempts by folks to help,
otherwise it might decrease the amount of help offered. We are not
sitting at your computer, it is not always clear what the underlying
problem is, or what the solution might be.

When you post a question you should post the steps you took to resolve it
to avoid just this situation. Here is a link to some information on how
to make a good newsgroup post. Good luck with your issue.
Click to expand...

The help is appreciated, but perhaps the original responder should not be
furnishing so many requests if he cannot slow down and take the time to read
them. The material he posted did not contain any informatin about my
particular problem. It contained information about a variety of shut down
issues, none of which were related to my particular issue. He may have been
trying to help, but his boiler-plate posting of this article just because he
saw the term "shut down issue" in my post does not help the situation. He
should either take note of the specific issues covered in that article, or
simply not respond to people with shut down issue.

His attempt to help was rushed at best. And now because of him I am going to
have to change my name and repost under a new subject, so that other people
who might actually have a helpful answer won't just skip over it, thinking
it has been dealt with.
 
The help is appreciated, but perhaps the original responder should not be
furnishing so many requests if he cannot slow down and take the time to
read them. The material he posted did not contain any informatin about my
particular problem. It contained information about a variety of shut down
issues, none of which were related to my particular issue. He may have
been trying to help, but his boiler-plate posting of this article just
because he saw the term "shut down issue" in my post does not help the
situation. He should either take note of the specific issues covered in
that article, or simply not respond to people with shut down issue.

His attempt to help was rushed at best. And now because of him I am going
to have to change my name and repost under a new subject, so that other
people who might actually have a helpful answer won't just skip over it,
thinking it has been dealt with.
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You're just not getting it are you? This is a newsgroup of volunteers. You
didn't pay a fee. No one owes you anything. If you don't like the support
then go somewhere else, but it's not very good common sense to not
appreciate when someone is trying to help.

You can certainly change your name, but if your approach is the same, so
will be the results.
 
Rock said:
You're just not getting it are you? This is a newsgroup of volunteers.
You didn't pay a fee. No one owes you anything. If you don't like the
support then go somewhere else, but it's not very good common sense to not
appreciate when someone is trying to help.

You can certainly change your name, but if your approach is the same, so
will be the results.
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Hypothetical situation. I'm in a car wreck and my arm gets trapped under a
piece of wreckage. Ken Blake, MVP, comes by and volunteers to help with his
gasoline-powered industrial circular saw. He throws on his goggles, fires up
the saw, and then proceeds to carefully slice my arm off. Now I'm pissed
because I don't have an arm... this was not in any way the help I needed.

Rock: Hey, he was a volunteer. If you don't like his help then go F-off.
 
Did you not have a choice to tell him not to cut off your arm?

|
| Hypothetical situation. I'm in a car wreck and my arm gets trapped under a
| piece of wreckage. Ken Blake, MVP, comes by and volunteers to help with
his
| gasoline-powered industrial circular saw. He throws on his goggles, fires
up
| the saw, and then proceeds to carefully slice my arm off. Now I'm pissed
| because I don't have an arm... this was not in any way the help I needed.
 
Hypothetical situation. I'm in a car wreck and my arm gets trapped under a
piece of wreckage. Ken Blake, MVP, comes by and volunteers to help with
his gasoline-powered industrial circular saw. He throws on his goggles,
fires up the saw, and then proceeds to carefully slice my arm off. Now I'm
pissed because I don't have an arm... this was not in any way the help I
needed.

Rock: Hey, he was a volunteer. If you don't like his help then go F-off.
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The analogy is so flawed I won't waste the time on it, though if there was
any good fortune involved you'd twitch at the last moment, and the saw would
get you across the neck instead. Oh well, so sorry.

As I said in the last post, you really don't get it. Nobody owes you
anything.

Well I'm finished with this thread. Reply if you must, and good luck with
your problem.
 
Tom Willett said:
Did you not have a choice to tell him not to cut off your arm?
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How am I supposed to know what he's going to do with that thing? I'm at the
mercy of the volunteer.
 
Oh, I see. You are always submissive or unconscious.
Try counseling.

|
| | > Did you not have a choice to tell him not to cut off your arm?
|
| How am I supposed to know what he's going to do with that thing? I'm at
the
| mercy of the volunteer.
|
|
 
You always have choices in life. Use your head to make them.


|
| | > Did you not have a choice to tell him not to cut off your arm?
|
| How am I supposed to know what he's going to do with that thing? I'm at
the
| mercy of the volunteer.
|
|
 
Rock said:
The analogy is so flawed I won't waste the time on it, though if there
was any good fortune involved you'd twitch at the last moment, and the
saw would get you across the neck instead. Oh well, so sorry.

As I said in the last post, you really don't get it. Nobody owes you
anything.

Well I'm finished with this thread. Reply if you must, and good luck
with your problem.
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The MVP's _owe_ correct replies, if I want useless replies I can read
the
UTF,'s. (web based replies).
 
quote from Framk: "The MVP's _owe_ correct replies"

sorry, but I don't think so, MVP's are not Microsoft employees, are not
being paid by Microsoft, and are here at their own account.
MVP's are proffessionals, who with years of experience try to help people.
They are still humans, they might not have the correct solution at first,
but at least they think about your problem, they might approach it from a
different angle, all and all very usefull to solve a problem. They are
persistent, and go into great detail to help you.

And sometimes, just sometimes, they might present a wrong solution, but then
again, they are only human.

If somebody owes anything, then it is us, we owe the MVP's a thank you,
thanks for helping, thanks for their time.
MVP's do not _owe_ anything to anybody.

PS, I am NOT an MVP


Frank said:
Rock said:
"Top Poster"wrote

message Top Poster wrote:

message

Top Poster wrote:

Windows does not shut down correctly on two computers = new
problem.


There's good information on shutdown problems here:
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm

No good. This was my first stop when I started having the
problem,
but it doesn't have the answer I need.


OK, then sorry, I have no further suggestions for you. But let
me suggest for the future that when you ask about a problem
here, you let us know what you've already tried, and save us the
trouble of posting unhelpful information.

As long as you promise, in future, to please read the post. The
material you sent me does not address my problem in any way. It
is about certain types of shut down problems which are unrelated
to my post.

The people who post in here are volunteers who try to help others.
It would probably benefit you to appreciate attempts by folks to
help, otherwise it might decrease the amount of help offered. We
are not sitting at your computer, it is not always clear what the
underlying problem is, or what the solution might be.

When you post a question you should post the steps you took to
resolve it to avoid just this situation. Here is a link to some
information on how to make a good newsgroup post. Good luck with
your issue.

The help is appreciated, but perhaps the original responder should
not be furnishing so many requests if he cannot slow down and take
the time to read them. The material he posted did not contain any
informatin about my particular problem. It contained information
about a variety of shut down issues, none of which were related to
my particular issue. He may have been trying to help, but his
boiler-plate posting of this article just because he saw the term
"shut down issue" in my post does not help the situation. He
should either take note of the specific issues covered in that
article, or simply not respond to people with shut down issue.

His attempt to help was rushed at best. And now because of him I am
going to have to change my name and repost under a new subject, so
that other people who might actually have a helpful answer won't
just skip over it, thinking it has been dealt with.

You're just not getting it are you? This is a newsgroup of
volunteers. You didn't pay a fee. No one owes you anything. If you
don't like the support then go somewhere else, but it's not very
good common sense to not appreciate when someone is trying to help.

You can certainly change your name, but if your approach is the
same, so will be the results.

--
Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]


Hypothetical situation. I'm in a car wreck and my arm gets trapped
under a piece of wreckage. Ken Blake, MVP, comes by and volunteers to
help with his gasoline-powered industrial circular saw. He throws on
his goggles, fires up the saw, and then proceeds to carefully slice
my arm off. Now I'm pissed because I don't have an arm... this was
not in any way the help I needed.

Rock: Hey, he was a volunteer. If you don't like his help then go
F-off.
Click to expand...

The analogy is so flawed I won't waste the time on it, though if there
was any good fortune involved you'd twitch at the last moment, and the
saw would get you across the neck instead. Oh well, so sorry.

As I said in the last post, you really don't get it. Nobody owes you
anything.

Well I'm finished with this thread. Reply if you must, and good luck
with your problem.
Click to expand...

The MVP's _owe_ correct replies, if I want useless replies I can read
the
UTF,'s. (web based replies).
Click to expand...
 
Rock said:
The analogy is so flawed I won't waste the time on it, though if there was
any good fortune involved you'd twitch at the last moment, and the saw
would get you across the neck instead. Oh well, so sorry.

As I said in the last post, you really don't get it. Nobody owes you
anything.

Well I'm finished with this thread. Reply if you must, and good luck with
your problem.
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So now you wish me death. Great. And thanks for wasting time on my flawed
analogy.

The only reason I even bothered to take issue with Ken Blake is because he
insulted me for not posting "what I tried." But the link he pasted was not
related to my problem, so why even bother mentioning it in my original post?
I just mentioned that I already saw that link, the content of which is
completely unrelated. So I'm supposed to drop every one of the thousands of
links that did not help my problem and did not include helpful information?
I also somehow ended up on a Korean window frame distributor website, should
I have mentioned that I went there too? Both links were equally unrelated to
my problem since they don't describe or address my problem in any way. How
is it even remotely helpful to paste a link with "shut down problems" when
none of the problems in the link are what I'm experiencing. Like I said, it
was unhelpful and in fact burdensome for his unthoughtful post. Now I am
going to have to post this problem yet again, because the perception is that
it was solved. I was perfectly willing to do that and just forget about it,
but then the "helpful volunteer" wrote the following:
OK, then sorry, I have no further suggestions for you. But let me suggest
for the future that when you ask about a problem here, you let us know
what you've already tried, and save us the trouble of posting unhelpful
information.
Click to expand...

So if this guy told me that I should visit the Korean window frame website,
and I told him the same answer: "that doesn't include information for me,"
he could still say like a jackass "please tell us what you tried first."

You're a bunch of volunteer bozos. Do you owe me anything? Yes, you do. As
self-appointed volunteers/windows gurus you should actually be helpful.
Otherwise, don't waste my time pretending I can be helped. Move along and
let actual helpful people take your place.
 
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