security software scanning / sweep times...

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....are LUDICROUS in Safe Mode i.e. ...no chipset bus-master drivers / UDMA
in use or, IDE data speeds probably at 33mhz ...or whatever provides decent
performance when using Windows in Normal Mode.

....so, how could one boot up mostly in Safe Mode but, wiithout crippled hd
IDE electronics in order to run Ewido / Adaware / multi-av / AVG sweeps etc
???

....regards, Richard
 
From: "RJK" <[email protected]>

| ...are LUDICROUS in Safe Mode i.e. ...no chipset bus-master drivers / UDMA
| in use or, IDE data speeds probably at 33mhz ...or whatever provides decent
| performance when using Windows in Normal Mode.
|
| ...so, how could one boot up mostly in Safe Mode but, wiithout crippled hd
| IDE electronics in order to run Ewido / Adaware / multi-av / AVG sweeps etc
| ???
|
| ...regards, Richard
|

You have to deal with the slower speeds with Win32 GUI based utilities.

However, the Kaspersky, Sophos and McAfee command line scanners can be used within the
Microsoft Recovery Console because they are either DOS or Win32 command line utilities.
 
Thanks, ...perhaps I should rephrase (...because multi-av is going at full
speed as a console application in Windows Normal Mode).

Sweeps with various security software apps. are much faster when run in
Windows Normal Mode because my "SIS 5513 IDE UDMA Controller" driver is in
use. That driver is not loaded up when booting to Safe Mode. A common
requirement of security / a/v scanning software, for various reasons and
particularly for infected systems, seems to be, "run it in Safe Mode."

Is is possible to get the best of both worlds ? :-)
i.e. Safe Mode but, with UDMA driver loaded up ?
....where is it that I can prod [Y] and [N] to all that's normally loaded
at boot-up ...or was that Windows 95 ? :-)

regards, Richard
 
From: "RJK" <[email protected]>

| Thanks, ...perhaps I should rephrase (...because multi-av is going at full
| speed as a console application in Windows Normal Mode).
|
| Sweeps with various security software apps. are much faster when run in
| Windows Normal Mode because my "SIS 5513 IDE UDMA Controller" driver is in
| use. That driver is not loaded up when booting to Safe Mode. A common
| requirement of security / a/v scanning software, for various reasons and
| particularly for infected systems, seems to be, "run it in Safe Mode."
|
| Is is possible to get the best of both worlds ? :-)
| i.e. Safe Mode but, with UDMA driver loaded up ?
| ...where is it that I can prod [Y] and [N] to all that's normally loaded
| at boot-up ...or was that Windows 95 ? :-)
|


No. Safe Mode is a limited version of the OS for a reason.
 
RJK said:
Thanks, ...perhaps I should rephrase (...because multi-av is going
at full speed as a console application in Windows Normal Mode).

Sweeps with various security software apps. are much faster when run
in Windows Normal Mode because my "SIS 5513 IDE UDMA Controller"
driver is in use. That driver is not loaded up when booting to Safe
Mode. A common requirement of security / a/v scanning software, for
various reasons and particularly for infected systems, seems to be,
"run it in Safe Mode."
Is is possible to get the best of both worlds ? :-)
i.e. Safe Mode but, with UDMA driver loaded up ?
...where is it that I can prod [Y] and [N] to all that's normally
loaded at boot-up ...or was that Windows 95 ? :-)
Click to expand...

You could create a WinPE or BartPE boot disk with the appropriate drivers.
Google for BartPE.
 
Thanks Kerry

I can see that I eventually am going to have to spend time experimenting
with BartPE boot cd, but, this will have to be on a spare PC. The last
time, (about 6 months ago), I made a BartPE cd-r and booted from it, and had
a rummage around - and tried to run multi-av I remember, on my main PC I
managed to destroy my mbr. Luckily I'd Ghosted my main boot drive onto my
2nd hd just hours before it happened !

regards, Richard


Kerry Brown said:
RJK said:
Thanks, ...perhaps I should rephrase (...because multi-av is going
at full speed as a console application in Windows Normal Mode).

Sweeps with various security software apps. are much faster when run
in Windows Normal Mode because my "SIS 5513 IDE UDMA Controller"
driver is in use. That driver is not loaded up when booting to Safe
Mode. A common requirement of security / a/v scanning software, for
various reasons and particularly for infected systems, seems to be,
"run it in Safe Mode."
Is is possible to get the best of both worlds ? :-)
i.e. Safe Mode but, with UDMA driver loaded up ?
...where is it that I can prod [Y] and [N] to all that's normally
loaded at boot-up ...or was that Windows 95 ? :-)
Click to expand...

You could create a WinPE or BartPE boot disk with the appropriate drivers.
Google for BartPE.
Click to expand...
 
Thanks Kerry

I can see that I eventually am going to have to spend time
experimenting with BartPE boot cd, but, this will have to be on a
spare PC. The last time, (about 6 months ago), I made a BartPE cd-r
and booted from it, and had a rummage around - and tried to run
multi-av I remember, on my main PC I managed to destroy my mbr.
Luckily I'd Ghosted my main boot drive onto my 2nd hd just hours
before it happened !

regards, Richard
Click to expand...


A BartPE disc is your friend. We use a very modified one for work purposes
which is familiar with most known ide/sata chipset controllers. :) Sadly, I
can't give you our version.... I can help to answer questions and sort of
lead you in the right direction if you get stuck...

--
Dustin Cook
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - V2.1
web: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
email: (e-mail address removed)
Last updated: January 25th, 2007
 
Just to commiserate - I used BartPE to work on my laptop not long ago. I not
only hosed the entire partition - but also hosed the drive image on the
attached USB drive! Luckily the recovery disk was disk image based, so it
didn't take forever to recover it!

Good Luck!

- John
 
Just to commiserate - I used BartPE to work on my laptop not long ago.
I not only hosed the entire partition - but also hosed the drive
image on the attached USB drive! Luckily the recovery disk was disk
image based, so it didn't take forever to recover it!
Click to expand...

What did you do to cause so much harm?
--
Dustin Cook
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - V2.1
web: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
email: (e-mail address removed)
Last updated: January 25th, 2007
 
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