Saving Toolbar Settings - 2nd Post

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Randy

This is my second post for the same subject.

MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
Logged in as admin

Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and when I re-open
they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce know how to
"save" changed Toolbar settings?

Randy
 
Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you open Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like per folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when you recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place. If your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current file and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and when I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce know how to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
 
Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general group, titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e., now above my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the e-mail and re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that didn't work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser
 
I also have the problem too.

I also tried the "outcmd" solution, but without any effect regarding toolbar
positions NOT saved.

It seems, that Outlook 2003 really do have a bug.

I am running Windows XP + SP2 + Outlook 2003 (german version) with all
available updates applied.

If you are looking around several newsgroups (also try to search for
"toolbar position" in THIS newsgroup), you will see, that this annoying
problem exists on many installations.

Bram Weiser said:
Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general group, titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e., now above my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the e-mail and re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that didn't work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Milly Staples said:
Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you open Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like per folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when you recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place. If your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current file and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and when I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce know how to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
If using word as the editor, what addins and toolbars are used? For
outlook's main window, what toolbars are displayed?

I have no problems with the toolbars, especially once I closed the acrobat
addin's toolbar.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Hans said:
I also have the problem too.

I also tried the "outcmd" solution, but without any effect regarding
toolbar
positions NOT saved.

It seems, that Outlook 2003 really do have a bug.

I am running Windows XP + SP2 + Outlook 2003 (german version) with all
available updates applied.

If you are looking around several newsgroups (also try to search for
"toolbar position" in THIS newsgroup), you will see, that this annoying
problem exists on many installations.

Bram Weiser said:
Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general group, titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e., now above
my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the e-mail and
re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that didn't
work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Milly Staples said:
Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you open
Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like per
folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when you
recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add
customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place. If your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current file and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and when I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce know how
to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Dear Diane (and others),

Hello, and thanks for following up on this thread.

I'm using Outlook XP (as opposed to Hans' 2003), and, yes, I've set the
Acrobat toolbar to launch (though, typically, it doesn't do so in Outlook for
me, nor does it if Outlook is launched and I want to also launch Word or
Excel independently...but that's another story...:-))

Otherwise, I'm usually using the Standard and Formatting toolbars, though,
on occasion, others (such as Reviewing or Web) appear without my specifically
asking for them).

Please let me (us) know if you have further questions, and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Diane Poremsky said:
If using word as the editor, what addins and toolbars are used? For
outlook's main window, what toolbars are displayed?

I have no problems with the toolbars, especially once I closed the acrobat
addin's toolbar.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Hans said:
I also have the problem too.

I also tried the "outcmd" solution, but without any effect regarding
toolbar
positions NOT saved.

It seems, that Outlook 2003 really do have a bug.

I am running Windows XP + SP2 + Outlook 2003 (german version) with all
available updates applied.

If you are looking around several newsgroups (also try to search for
"toolbar position" in THIS newsgroup), you will see, that this annoying
problem exists on many installations.

Bram Weiser said:
Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general group, titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e., now above
my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the e-mail and
re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that didn't
work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you open
Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like per
folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when you
recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add
customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place. If your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current file and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and when I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce know how
to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
reviewing toolbar is stored in the normal.dot - if they were turned on in
word and not turned off, they will be visible when composing email in
outlook and using word as the editor.

word's web toolbar is also stored in the template and displays in email if
it's turned on in word - outlook's web toolbar is in outcmd.dat.





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Bram Weiser said:
Dear Diane (and others),

Hello, and thanks for following up on this thread.

I'm using Outlook XP (as opposed to Hans' 2003), and, yes, I've set the
Acrobat toolbar to launch (though, typically, it doesn't do so in Outlook
for
me, nor does it if Outlook is launched and I want to also launch Word or
Excel independently...but that's another story...:-))

Otherwise, I'm usually using the Standard and Formatting toolbars, though,
on occasion, others (such as Reviewing or Web) appear without my
specifically
asking for them).

Please let me (us) know if you have further questions, and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Diane Poremsky said:
If using word as the editor, what addins and toolbars are used? For
outlook's main window, what toolbars are displayed?

I have no problems with the toolbars, especially once I closed the
acrobat
addin's toolbar.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Hans said:
I also have the problem too.

I also tried the "outcmd" solution, but without any effect regarding
toolbar
positions NOT saved.

It seems, that Outlook 2003 really do have a bug.

I am running Windows XP + SP2 + Outlook 2003 (german version) with all
available updates applied.

If you are looking around several newsgroups (also try to search for
"toolbar position" in THIS newsgroup), you will see, that this annoying
problem exists on many installations.

:

Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general group,
titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e., now
above
my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the e-mail and
re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to
research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that
didn't
work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you open
Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like per
folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when you
recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add
customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place. If
your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current file and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and when
I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce know
how
to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Dear Diane (& others),

Thanks, but I usually don't turn them on (are we going off-topic a little
here?) and maybe they appear because the original composer of the e-mail used
them?

Anyway, even if they aren't visible (my "default" setting), this
magically-moving toolbar scenario happens...often...and they remain out of
position even if/when I manually move them back to where they "should" be
(i.e., Menu Bar "should" be on top).

Does this clarify my situation? Please let me know if you have any more
questions for me (us), and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Diane Poremsky said:
reviewing toolbar is stored in the normal.dot - if they were turned on in
word and not turned off, they will be visible when composing email in
outlook and using word as the editor.

word's web toolbar is also stored in the template and displays in email if
it's turned on in word - outlook's web toolbar is in outcmd.dat.





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Bram Weiser said:
Dear Diane (and others),

Hello, and thanks for following up on this thread.

I'm using Outlook XP (as opposed to Hans' 2003), and, yes, I've set the
Acrobat toolbar to launch (though, typically, it doesn't do so in Outlook
for
me, nor does it if Outlook is launched and I want to also launch Word or
Excel independently...but that's another story...:-))

Otherwise, I'm usually using the Standard and Formatting toolbars, though,
on occasion, others (such as Reviewing or Web) appear without my
specifically
asking for them).

Please let me (us) know if you have further questions, and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Diane Poremsky said:
If using word as the editor, what addins and toolbars are used? For
outlook's main window, what toolbars are displayed?

I have no problems with the toolbars, especially once I closed the
acrobat
addin's toolbar.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I also have the problem too.

I also tried the "outcmd" solution, but without any effect regarding
toolbar
positions NOT saved.

It seems, that Outlook 2003 really do have a bug.

I am running Windows XP + SP2 + Outlook 2003 (german version) with all
available updates applied.

If you are looking around several newsgroups (also try to search for
"toolbar position" in THIS newsgroup), you will see, that this annoying
problem exists on many installations.

:

Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general group,
titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e., now
above
my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the e-mail and
re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to
research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that
didn't
work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you open
Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like per
folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when you
recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add
customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place. If
your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current file and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and when
I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce know
how
to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Again, I "played" around with my OL2003 toolbars, but the problem (toolbar
positions are not saved respectivly not restored correctly) still persists.

To answer the question about my actual configuration:

1. I have disabled Word - so i am not using word for editing emails

2. I have disabled ALL AddIns AND ComIns

3. I discoverd following:

I have installed Microsoft's Business Contact Manager and it seems, that BCM
does not position it's Toolbar (e.g. History Toolbar) in a standard way.

The BCM Toolbar cannot be seen on the standard toolbar selection/customizing
dialogs, so I can't disable the BCM toolbar. Next I simply DELETED the BCM's
toolbar, with following effect:

Next time, I started OL2003, BCM restored it's toolbar and reposition it as
last toolbar.

I agree, that from OL2003's point of view, the BCM is a third party tool.
But on a user's point of view (as mine) BCM is a Microsoft released Tool,
that should not behave like this, instead it should behave like other third
party AddIns/ComIns for OL2003 allowing to customize its toolbar/toolbar
position in the same way OL2003 does it.

I will try to completly uninstall BCM, but I have currently no more time to
spend on this issue.

Diane Poremsky said:
reviewing toolbar is stored in the normal.dot - if they were turned on in
word and not turned off, they will be visible when composing email in
outlook and using word as the editor.

word's web toolbar is also stored in the template and displays in email if
it's turned on in word - outlook's web toolbar is in outcmd.dat.





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Bram Weiser said:
Dear Diane (and others),

Hello, and thanks for following up on this thread.

I'm using Outlook XP (as opposed to Hans' 2003), and, yes, I've set the
Acrobat toolbar to launch (though, typically, it doesn't do so in Outlook
for
me, nor does it if Outlook is launched and I want to also launch Word or
Excel independently...but that's another story...:-))

Otherwise, I'm usually using the Standard and Formatting toolbars, though,
on occasion, others (such as Reviewing or Web) appear without my
specifically
asking for them).

Please let me (us) know if you have further questions, and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Diane Poremsky said:
If using word as the editor, what addins and toolbars are used? For
outlook's main window, what toolbars are displayed?

I have no problems with the toolbars, especially once I closed the
acrobat
addin's toolbar.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I also have the problem too.

I also tried the "outcmd" solution, but without any effect regarding
toolbar
positions NOT saved.

It seems, that Outlook 2003 really do have a bug.

I am running Windows XP + SP2 + Outlook 2003 (german version) with all
available updates applied.

If you are looking around several newsgroups (also try to search for
"toolbar position" in THIS newsgroup), you will see, that this annoying
problem exists on many installations.

:

Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general group,
titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e., now
above
my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the e-mail and
re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to
research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that
didn't
work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you open
Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like per
folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when you
recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add
customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place. If
your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current file and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and when
I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce know
how
to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
the sender's toolbars have absolutely nothing to do with your toolbars.

Find and rename the normal.dot and outcmd.dat files - disable the acrobat
addin in outlook.
http://www.outlook-tips.net/archives/2004/20040902.htm

If using addins in outlook, disable them. (Tools, options, other, advanced)

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Bram Weiser said:
Dear Diane (& others),

Thanks, but I usually don't turn them on (are we going off-topic a little
here?) and maybe they appear because the original composer of the e-mail
used
them?

Anyway, even if they aren't visible (my "default" setting), this
magically-moving toolbar scenario happens...often...and they remain out of
position even if/when I manually move them back to where they "should" be
(i.e., Menu Bar "should" be on top).

Does this clarify my situation? Please let me know if you have any more
questions for me (us), and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Diane Poremsky said:
reviewing toolbar is stored in the normal.dot - if they were turned on in
word and not turned off, they will be visible when composing email in
outlook and using word as the editor.

word's web toolbar is also stored in the template and displays in email
if
it's turned on in word - outlook's web toolbar is in outcmd.dat.





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Bram Weiser said:
Dear Diane (and others),

Hello, and thanks for following up on this thread.

I'm using Outlook XP (as opposed to Hans' 2003), and, yes, I've set the
Acrobat toolbar to launch (though, typically, it doesn't do so in
Outlook
for
me, nor does it if Outlook is launched and I want to also launch Word
or
Excel independently...but that's another story...:-))

Otherwise, I'm usually using the Standard and Formatting toolbars,
though,
on occasion, others (such as Reviewing or Web) appear without my
specifically
asking for them).

Please let me (us) know if you have further questions, and thanks
again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

If using word as the editor, what addins and toolbars are used? For
outlook's main window, what toolbars are displayed?

I have no problems with the toolbars, especially once I closed the
acrobat
addin's toolbar.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I also have the problem too.

I also tried the "outcmd" solution, but without any effect regarding
toolbar
positions NOT saved.

It seems, that Outlook 2003 really do have a bug.

I am running Windows XP + SP2 + Outlook 2003 (german version) with
all
available updates applied.

If you are looking around several newsgroups (also try to search for
"toolbar position" in THIS newsgroup), you will see, that this
annoying
problem exists on many installations.

:

Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general group,
titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e., now
above
my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the e-mail
and
re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu
bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to
research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that
didn't
work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you
open
Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like per
folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when you
recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add
customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place.
If
your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current file
and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due
to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and
when
I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce
know
how
to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
BCM has it's toolbar set for a specific position - it will cause problems.
As long as you remove BCM from your profile, it should remove the toolbar.

Also - I believe toolbar positions in outlook's window are not saved until
outlook closes- so if outlook remains running when you close it (because a
pda or something is still using data), the toolbar changes may not be saved.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Hans said:
Again, I "played" around with my OL2003 toolbars, but the problem (toolbar
positions are not saved respectivly not restored correctly) still
persists.

To answer the question about my actual configuration:

1. I have disabled Word - so i am not using word for editing emails

2. I have disabled ALL AddIns AND ComIns

3. I discoverd following:

I have installed Microsoft's Business Contact Manager and it seems, that
BCM
does not position it's Toolbar (e.g. History Toolbar) in a standard way.

The BCM Toolbar cannot be seen on the standard toolbar
selection/customizing
dialogs, so I can't disable the BCM toolbar. Next I simply DELETED the
BCM's
toolbar, with following effect:

Next time, I started OL2003, BCM restored it's toolbar and reposition it
as
last toolbar.

I agree, that from OL2003's point of view, the BCM is a third party tool.
But on a user's point of view (as mine) BCM is a Microsoft released Tool,
that should not behave like this, instead it should behave like other
third
party AddIns/ComIns for OL2003 allowing to customize its toolbar/toolbar
position in the same way OL2003 does it.

I will try to completly uninstall BCM, but I have currently no more time
to
spend on this issue.

Diane Poremsky said:
reviewing toolbar is stored in the normal.dot - if they were turned on in
word and not turned off, they will be visible when composing email in
outlook and using word as the editor.

word's web toolbar is also stored in the template and displays in email
if
it's turned on in word - outlook's web toolbar is in outcmd.dat.





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Bram Weiser said:
Dear Diane (and others),

Hello, and thanks for following up on this thread.

I'm using Outlook XP (as opposed to Hans' 2003), and, yes, I've set the
Acrobat toolbar to launch (though, typically, it doesn't do so in
Outlook
for
me, nor does it if Outlook is launched and I want to also launch Word
or
Excel independently...but that's another story...:-))

Otherwise, I'm usually using the Standard and Formatting toolbars,
though,
on occasion, others (such as Reviewing or Web) appear without my
specifically
asking for them).

Please let me (us) know if you have further questions, and thanks
again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

If using word as the editor, what addins and toolbars are used? For
outlook's main window, what toolbars are displayed?

I have no problems with the toolbars, especially once I closed the
acrobat
addin's toolbar.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I also have the problem too.

I also tried the "outcmd" solution, but without any effect regarding
toolbar
positions NOT saved.

It seems, that Outlook 2003 really do have a bug.

I am running Windows XP + SP2 + Outlook 2003 (german version) with
all
available updates applied.

If you are looking around several newsgroups (also try to search for
"toolbar position" in THIS newsgroup), you will see, that this
annoying
problem exists on many installations.

:

Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general group,
titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e., now
above
my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the e-mail
and
re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu
bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to
research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that
didn't
work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you
open
Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like per
folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when you
recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add
customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place.
If
your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current file
and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due
to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and
when
I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce
know
how
to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Dear Diane,

Hello again.

Thanks for this advice, but two important points make it different from what
I'm experiencing:

1) Microsoft Outlook toolbars do NOT show a Send as PDF button, in contrast
to what the outlook-tips.net link indicates.

2) My registry does NOT have a PDFMOutlook.PDFMOutlook entry or folder at
the location you cite. The only folder at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\Addins is
Microsoft.VbaAddinForOutlook.1, with a LoadBehavior of 9 (not 2 or 3).

Also, are you saying to rename my current normal.dot and outcmd.dat (never
heard of that last one before), and that they'll both regenerate just fine?

Please let me know your thoughts about all this, and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Diane Poremsky said:
the sender's toolbars have absolutely nothing to do with your toolbars.

Find and rename the normal.dot and outcmd.dat files - disable the acrobat
addin in outlook.
http://www.outlook-tips.net/archives/2004/20040902.htm

If using addins in outlook, disable them. (Tools, options, other, advanced)

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Bram Weiser said:
Dear Diane (& others),

Thanks, but I usually don't turn them on (are we going off-topic a little
here?) and maybe they appear because the original composer of the e-mail
used
them?

Anyway, even if they aren't visible (my "default" setting), this
magically-moving toolbar scenario happens...often...and they remain out of
position even if/when I manually move them back to where they "should" be
(i.e., Menu Bar "should" be on top).

Does this clarify my situation? Please let me know if you have any more
questions for me (us), and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Diane Poremsky said:
reviewing toolbar is stored in the normal.dot - if they were turned on in
word and not turned off, they will be visible when composing email in
outlook and using word as the editor.

word's web toolbar is also stored in the template and displays in email
if
it's turned on in word - outlook's web toolbar is in outcmd.dat.





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Dear Diane (and others),

Hello, and thanks for following up on this thread.

I'm using Outlook XP (as opposed to Hans' 2003), and, yes, I've set the
Acrobat toolbar to launch (though, typically, it doesn't do so in
Outlook
for
me, nor does it if Outlook is launched and I want to also launch Word
or
Excel independently...but that's another story...:-))

Otherwise, I'm usually using the Standard and Formatting toolbars,
though,
on occasion, others (such as Reviewing or Web) appear without my
specifically
asking for them).

Please let me (us) know if you have further questions, and thanks
again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

If using word as the editor, what addins and toolbars are used? For
outlook's main window, what toolbars are displayed?

I have no problems with the toolbars, especially once I closed the
acrobat
addin's toolbar.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I also have the problem too.

I also tried the "outcmd" solution, but without any effect regarding
toolbar
positions NOT saved.

It seems, that Outlook 2003 really do have a bug.

I am running Windows XP + SP2 + Outlook 2003 (german version) with
all
available updates applied.

If you are looking around several newsgroups (also try to search for
"toolbar position" in THIS newsgroup), you will see, that this
annoying
problem exists on many installations.

:

Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general group,
titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e., now
above
my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the e-mail
and
re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu
bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to
research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that
didn't
work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you
open
Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like per
folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when you
recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add
customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place.
If
your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current file
and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due
to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and
when
I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce
know
how
to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
The PDF information is only if you have acrobat installed - it is one of the
addins that is known for causing toolbar problems (long with BCM).

Yes, both of those files will be recreated by outlook and word.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Bram Weiser said:
Dear Diane,

Hello again.

Thanks for this advice, but two important points make it different from
what
I'm experiencing:

1) Microsoft Outlook toolbars do NOT show a Send as PDF button, in
contrast
to what the outlook-tips.net link indicates.

2) My registry does NOT have a PDFMOutlook.PDFMOutlook entry or folder at
the location you cite. The only folder at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\Addins is
Microsoft.VbaAddinForOutlook.1, with a LoadBehavior of 9 (not 2 or 3).

Also, are you saying to rename my current normal.dot and outcmd.dat (never
heard of that last one before), and that they'll both regenerate just
fine?

Please let me know your thoughts about all this, and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Diane Poremsky said:
the sender's toolbars have absolutely nothing to do with your toolbars.

Find and rename the normal.dot and outcmd.dat files - disable the acrobat
addin in outlook.
http://www.outlook-tips.net/archives/2004/20040902.htm

If using addins in outlook, disable them. (Tools, options, other,
advanced)

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Bram Weiser said:
Dear Diane (& others),

Thanks, but I usually don't turn them on (are we going off-topic a
little
here?) and maybe they appear because the original composer of the
e-mail
used
them?

Anyway, even if they aren't visible (my "default" setting), this
magically-moving toolbar scenario happens...often...and they remain out
of
position even if/when I manually move them back to where they "should"
be
(i.e., Menu Bar "should" be on top).

Does this clarify my situation? Please let me know if you have any
more
questions for me (us), and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

reviewing toolbar is stored in the normal.dot - if they were turned on
in
word and not turned off, they will be visible when composing email in
outlook and using word as the editor.

word's web toolbar is also stored in the template and displays in
email
if
it's turned on in word - outlook's web toolbar is in outcmd.dat.





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Dear Diane (and others),

Hello, and thanks for following up on this thread.

I'm using Outlook XP (as opposed to Hans' 2003), and, yes, I've set
the
Acrobat toolbar to launch (though, typically, it doesn't do so in
Outlook
for
me, nor does it if Outlook is launched and I want to also launch
Word
or
Excel independently...but that's another story...:-))

Otherwise, I'm usually using the Standard and Formatting toolbars,
though,
on occasion, others (such as Reviewing or Web) appear without my
specifically
asking for them).

Please let me (us) know if you have further questions, and thanks
again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

If using word as the editor, what addins and toolbars are used? For
outlook's main window, what toolbars are displayed?

I have no problems with the toolbars, especially once I closed the
acrobat
addin's toolbar.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I also have the problem too.

I also tried the "outcmd" solution, but without any effect
regarding
toolbar
positions NOT saved.

It seems, that Outlook 2003 really do have a bug.

I am running Windows XP + SP2 + Outlook 2003 (german version)
with
all
available updates applied.

If you are looking around several newsgroups (also try to search
for
"toolbar position" in THIS newsgroup), you will see, that this
annoying
problem exists on many installations.

:

Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general
group,
titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e.,
now
above
my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the
e-mail
and
re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu
bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to
research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that
didn't
work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you
open
Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like
per
folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when
you
recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add
customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place.
If
your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current
file
and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
Due
to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and
when
I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce
know
how
to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Dear Diane,

Hello again.

Full Acrobat IS installed on my PC, as referred to, below, when I noted that
the Acrobat toolbar appears in Word and Excel when Outlook isn't
launched...yet the registry entry that outlook-tips.net asked me to look for
doesn't seem to exist.

Thanks again.

Bram
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Diane Poremsky said:
The PDF information is only if you have acrobat installed - it is one of the
addins that is known for causing toolbar problems (long with BCM).

Yes, both of those files will be recreated by outlook and word.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Bram Weiser said:
Dear Diane,

Hello again.

Thanks for this advice, but two important points make it different from
what
I'm experiencing:

1) Microsoft Outlook toolbars do NOT show a Send as PDF button, in
contrast
to what the outlook-tips.net link indicates.

2) My registry does NOT have a PDFMOutlook.PDFMOutlook entry or folder at
the location you cite. The only folder at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\Addins is
Microsoft.VbaAddinForOutlook.1, with a LoadBehavior of 9 (not 2 or 3).

Also, are you saying to rename my current normal.dot and outcmd.dat (never
heard of that last one before), and that they'll both regenerate just
fine?

Please let me know your thoughts about all this, and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


Diane Poremsky said:
the sender's toolbars have absolutely nothing to do with your toolbars.

Find and rename the normal.dot and outcmd.dat files - disable the acrobat
addin in outlook.
http://www.outlook-tips.net/archives/2004/20040902.htm

If using addins in outlook, disable them. (Tools, options, other,
advanced)

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Dear Diane (& others),

Thanks, but I usually don't turn them on (are we going off-topic a
little
here?) and maybe they appear because the original composer of the
e-mail
used
them?

Anyway, even if they aren't visible (my "default" setting), this
magically-moving toolbar scenario happens...often...and they remain out
of
position even if/when I manually move them back to where they "should"
be
(i.e., Menu Bar "should" be on top).

Does this clarify my situation? Please let me know if you have any
more
questions for me (us), and thanks again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

reviewing toolbar is stored in the normal.dot - if they were turned on
in
word and not turned off, they will be visible when composing email in
outlook and using word as the editor.

word's web toolbar is also stored in the template and displays in
email
if
it's turned on in word - outlook's web toolbar is in outcmd.dat.





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


Dear Diane (and others),

Hello, and thanks for following up on this thread.

I'm using Outlook XP (as opposed to Hans' 2003), and, yes, I've set
the
Acrobat toolbar to launch (though, typically, it doesn't do so in
Outlook
for
me, nor does it if Outlook is launched and I want to also launch
Word
or
Excel independently...but that's another story...:-))

Otherwise, I'm usually using the Standard and Formatting toolbars,
though,
on occasion, others (such as Reviewing or Web) appear without my
specifically
asking for them).

Please let me (us) know if you have further questions, and thanks
again.
--
Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

If using word as the editor, what addins and toolbars are used? For
outlook's main window, what toolbars are displayed?

I have no problems with the toolbars, especially once I closed the
acrobat
addin's toolbar.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I also have the problem too.

I also tried the "outcmd" solution, but without any effect
regarding
toolbar
positions NOT saved.

It seems, that Outlook 2003 really do have a bug.

I am running Windows XP + SP2 + Outlook 2003 (german version)
with
all
available updates applied.

If you are looking around several newsgroups (also try to search
for
"toolbar position" in THIS newsgroup), you will see, that this
annoying
problem exists on many installations.

:

Dear Milly (and Everyone),

Hi. I've been having a very similar problem, too.

As noted in my post to the microsoft.public.outlook.general
group,
titled
"OL2002: Toolbar out of place and won't go back", when I open a
previously-sent e-mail, my toolbars are out of position (i.e.,
now
above
my
menu bar). When I move them to the right place, close the
e-mail
and
re-open
it, my changes are gone and the toolbar is, again, above my menu
bar.

My other post goes into greater detail about what I've done to
research
this, so please feel free to read (and, even, respond to) it.

I've also just tried Milly's suggestion about "outcmd", but that
didn't
work
for me.

Any ideas, please? Thanks for your time and your help.

Sincerely,
Bram Weiser


:

Rename Outcmd.dat to .old with Outlook closed. Next time you
open
Outlook,
you can create all of your toolbars, arrange them as you like
per
folder.
Close Outlook and copy the Outcmd.dat file you created when
you
recustomized
the toolbars. Save this in a safe place. Whenever you add
customizations
to the toolbar, remember to copy that file to your safe place.
If
your
toolbars corrupt, all you need to do is rename the current
file
and
substitute the most recent backup.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
Due
to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
personal
account will be deleted without reading.

| This is my second post for the same subject.
|
| MSOL 2003 running on XP Pro
| Logged in as admin
|
| Open OL2003, arrange toolbars the way I want them, close and
when
I
re-open
| they seems to revert to some default settings. Does anyonce
know
how
to
| "save" changed Toolbar settings?
|
| Randy
|
|
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
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