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Bobbie Leslie
Is it possible to have SerialATA drives and IDE drives active on the
same motherboard?
Bob
same motherboard?
Bob
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Jans
Bobbie Leslie said:Is it possible to have SerialATA drives and IDE drives active on the
same motherboard?
Bob
Yes , if your motherboard is fitted with SATA and IDE connections.
Chuck
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Winux P
Yes take a look through your BIOS settings. There should be a setting called
something like Enhanced Mode with allows both PATA and SATA to be used
conjuctively. Your motherboard should have both IDE (ATA) and SATA plugs.
- Winux P
: Is it possible to have SerialATA drives and IDE drives active on the
: same motherboard?
: Bob
something like Enhanced Mode with allows both PATA and SATA to be used
conjuctively. Your motherboard should have both IDE (ATA) and SATA plugs.
- Winux P
: Is it possible to have SerialATA drives and IDE drives active on the
: same motherboard?
: Bob
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Ken Blake, MVP
Bobbie said:Is it possible to have SerialATA drives and IDE drives active on the
same motherboard?
Yes. However I've heard reports of conflicts between the two with some
motherboards. I have no personal experience with such conflicts, and can't
verify that the reports are accurate, so take what I say with a grain of
salt. I mention it only to suggest that it may be worth your looking into it
further.
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Bobbie Leslie
I have both the SATA and the older ATA connectors. However I am using
a Promise controller board for the existing hard drives. Let me
digress a bit. I like LS-120 floppy drives for several reasons and I
won't go into that but they take up a hard drive connection and you
really don't want to slave a hard drive to it or make a hard drive the
master to it due to speed differences.. Now, back to my origianal
question including the Promise controller card. Now, can I use both
the SATA connection and the Promise controller board connections on
the same computer without screwing things up?
Thanks,
Bob
a Promise controller board for the existing hard drives. Let me
digress a bit. I like LS-120 floppy drives for several reasons and I
won't go into that but they take up a hard drive connection and you
really don't want to slave a hard drive to it or make a hard drive the
master to it due to speed differences.. Now, back to my origianal
question including the Promise controller card. Now, can I use both
the SATA connection and the Promise controller board connections on
the same computer without screwing things up?
Thanks,
Bob
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Ted
I had SIIG and I didn't like it, didn't perform as promised.
They say Promise works much better.
In my D865 PERL, I have two SATA drives connected to the
motherboard, and have CD drive and an IDE drive connected
the Secondary IDE channel. The drive configuration in
the BIOS set to Legacy, SATA Primary, PATA Secondary.
Some of Promise controllers have the option of adding
a third IDE drive controller and SATA controller, both
in the same controller.
They say Promise works much better.
In my D865 PERL, I have two SATA drives connected to the
motherboard, and have CD drive and an IDE drive connected
the Secondary IDE channel. The drive configuration in
the BIOS set to Legacy, SATA Primary, PATA Secondary.
Some of Promise controllers have the option of adding
a third IDE drive controller and SATA controller, both
in the same controller.
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Anna
And he adds...
Bob:
Interesting that you're still using (and apparently happy with) the LS-120
floppy drive. It's been a long time since we used one of those. But as long
as it meets your needs...
But I'm puzzled by your statement that you (apparently) connect that drive
as Primary Master because "you really don't want to slave a hard drive to it
or make a hard drive the master to it due to speed differences." As I
recall, we *never* connected that drive as PM; it was always connected as a
Slave on the Primary IDE channel or connected anywhere on the Secondary IDE
channel. In every case we connected the day-to-day working HD as PM and
connected the LS-120 drive wherever convenient on an IDE channel. I'm not
aware of any performance hit affecting the LS-120 when it was thus
connected. I'm assuming you normally boot to your hard drive. But I have to
admit it's been a long time since I worked with that LS-120 drive...
I assume you use the Promise controller for your PATA drive and you have
available a SATA connector on your motherboard. There should be no problem
with installing a SATA drive under those circumstances and you should be
able to boot to either drive by setting the BIOS boot order. But check your
motherboard's manual to determine if you will have to install any SATA
drivers from the motherboard's installation CD.
Hmmm. Now that I re:read your query it seems that you may have a Promise
controller card that contains both PATA & SATA connectors for those drives.
In any event, it really doesn't matter. There should be no difficulty
installing and booting to the SATA HD should it be connected to the
controller card. The Promise controller will come, no doubt, with SATA
drivers.
Anna
I have both the SATA and the older ATA connectors. However I am using
a Promise controller board for the existing hard drives. Let me
digress a bit. I like LS-120 floppy drives for several reasons and I
won't go into that but they take up a hard drive connection and you
really don't want to slave a hard drive to it or make a hard drive the
master to it due to speed differences.. Now, back to my origianal
question including the Promise controller card. Now, can I use both
the SATA connection and the Promise controller board connections on
the same computer without screwing things up?
Thanks,
Bob
Bob:
Interesting that you're still using (and apparently happy with) the LS-120
floppy drive. It's been a long time since we used one of those. But as long
as it meets your needs...
But I'm puzzled by your statement that you (apparently) connect that drive
as Primary Master because "you really don't want to slave a hard drive to it
or make a hard drive the master to it due to speed differences." As I
recall, we *never* connected that drive as PM; it was always connected as a
Slave on the Primary IDE channel or connected anywhere on the Secondary IDE
channel. In every case we connected the day-to-day working HD as PM and
connected the LS-120 drive wherever convenient on an IDE channel. I'm not
aware of any performance hit affecting the LS-120 when it was thus
connected. I'm assuming you normally boot to your hard drive. But I have to
admit it's been a long time since I worked with that LS-120 drive...
I assume you use the Promise controller for your PATA drive and you have
available a SATA connector on your motherboard. There should be no problem
with installing a SATA drive under those circumstances and you should be
able to boot to either drive by setting the BIOS boot order. But check your
motherboard's manual to determine if you will have to install any SATA
drivers from the motherboard's installation CD.
Hmmm. Now that I re:read your query it seems that you may have a Promise
controller card that contains both PATA & SATA connectors for those drives.
In any event, it really doesn't matter. There should be no difficulty
installing and booting to the SATA HD should it be connected to the
controller card. The Promise controller will come, no doubt, with SATA
drivers.
Anna
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Winux P
Hi Bobbie,
I had a similar setup not too long ago with a Promise Technology TX-133 IDE
extender card. It worked cause in my case I had two DVD drives in the card
and my hard disks in my SATA connections on the MoBo. I read Ken Blakes'
response below and can say that I've heard the same thing. I was told by the
person I purchased my motherboard from that, problems occur when mixed mixed
mode. I have initially experienced problems when I had one disk in a SATA
plug and the other on the Promise TX-133 card. All was going well indeed
until I start redirecting special folders to the Promise card. I set up the
SATA disk as my system\apps disk and placed My Documents, user temp, system
temp, some page file,...etc, on the disk pluged into the TX-133 card. Then
the system constantly halted, some times the TX-133 disk would respond like
a snail racing the turtle. This even occured when I only redirected My
Documents folder. When I placed all special folders back to the system all
worked back at lightening speed again even the TX-133 disk worked well
again. That's when I resorted to the setup mention mentioned above.
To try and answer you, basically yes. Keep hard disks on SATA put other
drives in the Promise card, even though it does defeat the purpose of the
Promise card as they're really good high speed disk connection cards, a
little futile just to put CD-DVD-Floppy-ZIP disks in them, but it works. As
Ken suggests, you never know, I know of other people who have set it up to
work quite well.
- Winux P
:I have both the SATA and the older ATA connectors. However I am using
: a Promise controller board for the existing hard drives. Let me
: digress a bit. I like LS-120 floppy drives for several reasons and I
: won't go into that but they take up a hard drive connection and you
: really don't want to slave a hard drive to it or make a hard drive the
: master to it due to speed differences.. Now, back to my origianal
: question including the Promise controller card. Now, can I use both
: the SATA connection and the Promise controller board connections on
: the same computer without screwing things up?
: Thanks,
: Bob
:
: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:17:41 +1100, "Winux P" <[email protected]>
: wrote:
:
: >
: >Yes take a look through your BIOS settings. There should be a setting
called
: >something like Enhanced Mode with allows both PATA and SATA to be used
: >conjuctively. Your motherboard should have both IDE (ATA) and SATA plugs.
: >
: >- Winux P
: >
: >: >: Is it possible to have SerialATA drives and IDE drives active on the
: >: same motherboard?
: >: Bob
: >
I had a similar setup not too long ago with a Promise Technology TX-133 IDE
extender card. It worked cause in my case I had two DVD drives in the card
and my hard disks in my SATA connections on the MoBo. I read Ken Blakes'
response below and can say that I've heard the same thing. I was told by the
person I purchased my motherboard from that, problems occur when mixed mixed
mode. I have initially experienced problems when I had one disk in a SATA
plug and the other on the Promise TX-133 card. All was going well indeed
until I start redirecting special folders to the Promise card. I set up the
SATA disk as my system\apps disk and placed My Documents, user temp, system
temp, some page file,...etc, on the disk pluged into the TX-133 card. Then
the system constantly halted, some times the TX-133 disk would respond like
a snail racing the turtle. This even occured when I only redirected My
Documents folder. When I placed all special folders back to the system all
worked back at lightening speed again even the TX-133 disk worked well
again. That's when I resorted to the setup mention mentioned above.
To try and answer you, basically yes. Keep hard disks on SATA put other
drives in the Promise card, even though it does defeat the purpose of the
Promise card as they're really good high speed disk connection cards, a
little futile just to put CD-DVD-Floppy-ZIP disks in them, but it works. As
Ken suggests, you never know, I know of other people who have set it up to
work quite well.
- Winux P
:I have both the SATA and the older ATA connectors. However I am using
: a Promise controller board for the existing hard drives. Let me
: digress a bit. I like LS-120 floppy drives for several reasons and I
: won't go into that but they take up a hard drive connection and you
: really don't want to slave a hard drive to it or make a hard drive the
: master to it due to speed differences.. Now, back to my origianal
: question including the Promise controller card. Now, can I use both
: the SATA connection and the Promise controller board connections on
: the same computer without screwing things up?
: Thanks,
: Bob
:
: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:17:41 +1100, "Winux P" <[email protected]>
: wrote:
:
: >
: >Yes take a look through your BIOS settings. There should be a setting
called
: >something like Enhanced Mode with allows both PATA and SATA to be used
: >conjuctively. Your motherboard should have both IDE (ATA) and SATA plugs.
: >
: >- Winux P
: >
: >: >: Is it possible to have SerialATA drives and IDE drives active on the
: >: same motherboard?
: >: Bob
: >
P
Plato
Bobbie said:Is it possible to have SerialATA drives and IDE drives active on the
same motherboard?
Yes.
B
Bobbie Leslie
Anna,
I started using LS-120 drives when they first came out and loved them
because you can boot from the things , wheresas you can't with a ZIP
or Jaz drive. Back at that time I was doing a lot of trading on eBay
and had one guy that wanted to swap two dozen LS-120's for a caddy
CDROM drive I had. It was a done deal and I've probably got more
LS-120's than I'll ever need but have given a few away. Back in the
"heyday" of LS-120's the speed of hard drives was not anywhere near
what they are today so yes, you could slave one to a hard drive and
probably not notice the difference. You will with ATA-100/ATA-133
drives tho' and that's the reason for my setup.
Thanks for your input.
Bob
I started using LS-120 drives when they first came out and loved them
because you can boot from the things , wheresas you can't with a ZIP
or Jaz drive. Back at that time I was doing a lot of trading on eBay
and had one guy that wanted to swap two dozen LS-120's for a caddy
CDROM drive I had. It was a done deal and I've probably got more
LS-120's than I'll ever need but have given a few away. Back in the
"heyday" of LS-120's the speed of hard drives was not anywhere near
what they are today so yes, you could slave one to a hard drive and
probably not notice the difference. You will with ATA-100/ATA-133
drives tho' and that's the reason for my setup.
Thanks for your input.
Bob
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Bobbie Leslie
After reviewing all of the inputs I feel much better about what i'm
going to do. I will install a 250gig hard drive to the SATA, divided
into three 80gig partitions. After I get thru installing WinXP
Pro slipstreamed with XP2 CD from Microsoft I then intend to install
the present dual boot hard drive with the same WinXP Pro SP2 and use
it as nothing but a drive to copy files over from. There's no boot.ini
on it so I don't see where it would be viewed as anything more than
another had drive with data on it. Anybody see any problems with that?
If so I'd sure like to hear from you.
Thanks to all,
Bob.
going to do. I will install a 250gig hard drive to the SATA, divided
into three 80gig partitions. After I get thru installing WinXP
Pro slipstreamed with XP2 CD from Microsoft I then intend to install
the present dual boot hard drive with the same WinXP Pro SP2 and use
it as nothing but a drive to copy files over from. There's no boot.ini
on it so I don't see where it would be viewed as anything more than
another had drive with data on it. Anybody see any problems with that?
If so I'd sure like to hear from you.
Thanks to all,
Bob.