S L O W boot after XP Pro SP2

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FulanoDeTal

Hi,

Installed SP2 and now it sits for about 2 minutes looking at a blank
screen before completing boot. Any suggestions very welcome, and
thanx in advance.

This has probably been dealt with before, so forgive me.
 
SP2 removes all Prefetch data files (.Pf) and as a result of 2000+
module replacements, your drive is fragmented. However, a blank
screen shouldn't be appearing. Is there any splash - such as the XP
banner on the screen ? After 3-4 reboots and several days of use
the prefetch data will be rebuilt and during an idle period, defrag
will rearrange data based on the Layout.Ini. Some lag or slowness
will always occur after a Service Pack is installed.
 
Please check Event Viewer for Warning / Error Reports in the System
and Application logs for the last boot and post copies.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, and
Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&sd=tech

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you should
double click for further information. You can copy using copy and paste.
Often the link will, however, say there is no further information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click
on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now
start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. This
will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links
into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event
Viewer.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Thank you both very much. Very comprehensive. I'll get to work and
hopefully resolve my situation. If not, brace yourselves for more
questions.



On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:57:34 -0000, "Gerry Cornell"

|Please check Event Viewer for Warning / Error Reports in the System
|and Application logs for the last boot and post copies.
|
|You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, and
|Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
|regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.
|
|HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
|http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&sd=tech
|
|Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you should
|double click for further information. You can copy using copy and paste.
|Often the link will, however, say there is no further information.
|http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
|(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)
|
|A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click
|on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
|resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now
|start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. This
|will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links
|into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event
|Viewer.
 
The blank screen is the desktop sans icons, which appears after the
splash screen. How does that affect me?




On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:16:00 -0500, "R. McCarty"

|SP2 removes all Prefetch data files (.Pf) and as a result of 2000+
|module replacements, your drive is fragmented. However, a blank
|screen shouldn't be appearing. Is there any splash - such as the XP
|banner on the screen ? After 3-4 reboots and several days of use
|the prefetch data will be rebuilt and during an idle period, defrag
|will rearrange data based on the Layout.Ini. Some lag or slowness
|will always occur after a Service Pack is installed.
|
||>
|> Hi,
|>
|> Installed SP2 and now it sits for about 2 minutes looking at a blank
|> screen before completing boot. Any suggestions very welcome, and
|> thanx in advance.
|>
|> This has probably been dealt with before, so forgive me.
|>
|>
|
 
OK Gerry. Here's the text of a Warning that just occurred:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Dhcp
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1003
Date: 1/31/2006
Time: 1:59:41 PM
User: N/A
Computer: USER
Description:
Your computer was not able to renew its address from the network (from
the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address
0020E08F1D0D. The following error occurred:
The semaphore timeout period has expired. . Your computer will
continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network
address (DHCP) server.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 79 00 00 00


I'm using ZoneAlarm Pro. I wonder if it needs tweaking?


==============================================



On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:57:34 -0000, "Gerry Cornell"

|Please check Event Viewer for Warning / Error Reports in the System
|and Application logs for the last boot and post copies.
|
|You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, and
|Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
|regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.
|
|HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
|http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&sd=tech
|
|Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you should
|double click for further information. You can copy using copy and paste.
|Often the link will, however, say there is no further information.
|http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
|(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)
|
|A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click
|on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
|resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now
|start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. This
|will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links
|into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event
|Viewer.
 
Gerry,

While I'm at it, here's a Warning that preceded the preceding:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: RemoteAccess
Event Category: None
Event ID: 20169
Date: 1/31/2006
Time: 7:59:32 AM
User: N/A
Computer: USER
Description:
Unable to contact a DHCP server. The Automatic Private IP Address
169.254.xx.xx (x's mine) will be assigned to dial-in clients. Clients
may be unable to access resources on the network.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.


============================================

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:05:55 -0700, FulanoDeTal

|
|OK Gerry. Here's the text of a Warning that just occurred:
|
|Event Type: Warning
|Event Source: Dhcp
|Event Category: None
|Event ID: 1003
|Date: 1/31/2006
|Time: 1:59:41 PM
|User: N/A
|Computer: USER
|Description:
|Your computer was not able to renew its address from the network (from
|the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address
|0020E08F1D0D. The following error occurred:
|The semaphore timeout period has expired. . Your computer will
|continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network
|address (DHCP) server.
|
|For more information, see Help and Support Center at
|http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
|Data:
|0000: 79 00 00 00
|
|
|I'm using ZoneAlarm Pro. I wonder if it needs tweaking?
|
|
|==============================================
|
|
|
|On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:57:34 -0000, "Gerry Cornell"
|
||Please check Event Viewer for Warning / Error Reports in the System
||and Application logs for the last boot and post copies.
||
||You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, and
||Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
||regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.
||
||HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
||http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&sd=tech
||
||Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you should
||double click for further information. You can copy using copy and paste.
||Often the link will, however, say there is no further information.
||http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
||(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)
||
||A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click
||on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
||resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now
||start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. This
||will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links
||into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event
||Viewer.
 
Is this a laptop or desktop computer?

Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.
What is the StartUp type for DHCP Client, IPSEC Services
and TCP/IP Netbios Helper?

The default setting for each is is Automatic.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
It's an IBM ThinkPad A31p laptop. I already have all 3 services on
automatic.



On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:43:21 -0000, "Gerry Cornell"

|Is this a laptop or desktop computer?
|
|Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.
|What is the StartUp type for DHCP Client, IPSEC Services
|and TCP/IP Netbios Helper?
|
|The default setting for each is is Automatic.
 
FulanoDeTal said:
It's an IBM ThinkPad A31p laptop. I already have all 3 services on
automatic.
Click to expand...

Have you done a clean up and defragged your hard drive yet?

Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
 
Yes, I've done those things.

But here's a question: In the System Event Viewer, can I use the
sequential times listed to determine which systems are taking
excessive time to load? For instance, on a regular basis, an item
called "ati2mtag" reports an "I2C read/write error" 5 times in a row,
followed in each case 2 minutes later by the Service Control Manager
reporting "The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service hung on
starting".

Am I on the right track?




On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:45:29 +0100, Alias

|FulanoDeTal wrote:
|
|> It's an IBM ThinkPad A31p laptop. I already have all 3 services on
|> automatic.
|>
|
|Have you done a clean up and defragged your hard drive yet?
|
|Alias
|
|Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
|Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
 
Finally resolved slow boot by disabling and/or changing to manual a
bunch of Services, and voila, it now boots nice and fast. I don't
know which Service was the culprit, but I am relieved and happy.
Meantime, thanks for all your suggestions and help, which haved served
to educate me.


On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:02:12 -0700, FulanoDeTal

|
|Hi,
|
|Installed SP2 and now it sits for about 2 minutes looking at a blank
|screen before completing boot. Any suggestions very welcome, and
|thanx in advance.
|
|This has probably been dealt with before, so forgive me.
|
 
I, too, have a Thinkpad A31p. I have also noticed the "I2C read/write error)
occurring five times on bootup. I contacted IBM support and they were
baffled. I've tracked it down to the most recent ATI GL 7800 video driver. I
had archived an older version of the driver, and tried rolling back to that
driver on my test configuration, and the bootup message disappeared.
Apparently the updated driver is looking for something in the hardware
configuration that doesn't exist on this computer. I reported this to IBM
tech, and they allowed as how that might be the case.

Unfortunately, I can't roll back to the older driver on my real system,
because it upsets all my display settings regarding font and icon sizes, and
I can't get them back to the display I want. So I've decided to live with the
error code, since it doesn't seem to be causing any ill effects in the
display. Maybe the next version of the driver will fix the bug. I have not
had the slow boot you report, so this error was not responsible.

Richard
 
Thank you for that. Likewise on my system: the error doesn't seem to
affect performance in any way. So now IBM has at least 2 reports of
the same thing.


On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:32:03 -0800, "Nyco_ork"

|I, too, have a Thinkpad A31p. I have also noticed the "I2C read/write error)
|occurring five times on bootup. I contacted IBM support and they were
|baffled. I've tracked it down to the most recent ATI GL 7800 video driver. I
|had archived an older version of the driver, and tried rolling back to that
|driver on my test configuration, and the bootup message disappeared.
|Apparently the updated driver is looking for something in the hardware
|configuration that doesn't exist on this computer. I reported this to IBM
|tech, and they allowed as how that might be the case.
|
|Unfortunately, I can't roll back to the older driver on my real system,
|because it upsets all my display settings regarding font and icon sizes, and
|I can't get them back to the display I want. So I've decided to live with the
|error code, since it doesn't seem to be causing any ill effects in the
|display. Maybe the next version of the driver will fix the bug. I have not
|had the slow boot you report, so this error was not responsible.
|
|Richard
|
|
|"FulanoDeTal" wrote:
|
|> Yes, I've done those things.
|>
|> But here's a question: In the System Event Viewer, can I use the
|> sequential times listed to determine which systems are taking
|> excessive time to load? For instance, on a regular basis, an item
|> called "ati2mtag" reports an "I2C read/write error" 5 times in a row,
|> followed in each case 2 minutes later by the Service Control Manager
|> reporting "The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service hung on
|> starting".
|>
|> Am I on the right track?
|>
|>
|>
|>
|> On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:45:29 +0100, Alias
|>
|> |FulanoDeTal wrote:
|> |
|> |> It's an IBM ThinkPad A31p laptop. I already have all 3 services on
|> |> automatic.
|> |>
|> |
|> |Have you done a clean up and defragged your hard drive yet?
|> |
|> |Alias
|> |
|> |Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
|> |Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
|>
|>
 
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