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hiredgun56
With the product key in tact? I bought it at Office Max in 2002....
Microsoft Validation process needs alot of work....
Microsoft Validation process needs alot of work....
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Running a Version of XP Home version 2002...and they say its not real?
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Alan
I think there might be a bit of confusion here. There is no such thing as XP
Home version 2002. There is, however, something called XP Home with SP2
(Service Pack 2).
On the other hand there _is_ a product called Office XP, also known as
Office 2002.
Which one are you having a problem with?
Alan
Home version 2002. There is, however, something called XP Home with SP2
(Service Pack 2).
On the other hand there _is_ a product called Office XP, also known as
Office 2002.
Which one are you having a problem with?
Alan
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hiredgun56
No confusion: just reading off the install CD: the upgrade disk reads
in its Hologramic glory: Upgrade Version 2002....MS XP Home
Edition....
Took what I just typed....right off the install CD...top to bottom.
The version is about 5 years old....purchased right when it came out. I
mentioned in my initial post it was purchased at Office Max, it was
purchased at Sams Wholesale Club in a clear plastic sleeve, not a box.
in its Hologramic glory: Upgrade Version 2002....MS XP Home
Edition....
Took what I just typed....right off the install CD...top to bottom.
The version is about 5 years old....purchased right when it came out. I
mentioned in my initial post it was purchased at Office Max, it was
purchased at Sams Wholesale Club in a clear plastic sleeve, not a box.
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Larry Samuels
You should not have been able to purchase that product at Sams. Retail
upgrades of XP home only came in Green boxes. If it was in a clear plastic
sleeve it was either a return or a bootleg.
--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-
upgrades of XP home only came in Green boxes. If it was in a clear plastic
sleeve it was either a return or a bootleg.
--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-
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hiredgun56
Sams club sells bootleg copies of XP? Unlikely....they do have a nice
assortment of software at most stores...a bit unorganized...but a good
selection for the most part.
Even back in those days, I didn't think you were allowed to return
software....
Might want to research the facts, MS expert...or not.... I do remember
having the COA and the install key....but the COA was on the sleeve,
and the install key...inside the folding pamphlet the CD came in.
Too many installs from a company that knows they're the only game in
town...and likes to sell mediocrity to the public. I can see now why MS
bought into Apple....
Just goes to show..if I knew then, what I knew now.....
assortment of software at most stores...a bit unorganized...but a good
selection for the most part.
Even back in those days, I didn't think you were allowed to return
software....
Might want to research the facts, MS expert...or not.... I do remember
having the COA and the install key....but the COA was on the sleeve,
and the install key...inside the folding pamphlet the CD came in.
Too many installs from a company that knows they're the only game in
town...and likes to sell mediocrity to the public. I can see now why MS
bought into Apple....
Just goes to show..if I knew then, what I knew now.....
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Larry Samuels
Believe me, I know the facts. I am a system builder and pc retailer.
If you purchased an XP home upgrade in anything other than the green retail
box you got taken. The only upgrade cds that were available in clear cases
were NFR (not for resale) complimentary copies and they didn't have the
tri-fold pamphlet with the cd key. You bought a repackaged return. The
install key was on the pamphlet as expected, but the COA was from the top of
the returned box.
The fact that it is failing WGA is another matter. I can see activation
failing if someone else still has it loaded or they recently reloaded it
from a copied disk they made before returning the product, but validation
should not fail unless the key is in widespread use.
Follow the prompts when it fails to try the downloadable tool, if it still
fails follow up with MS to get replacement.
I agree with you completely that WGA is horribly flawed and needs work. You
should not have to pay for a new key if you follow this up with MS. You
purchased the product in good faith from a reputable source.
PS: Sams/WalMart has been known to sell bootleg merchandise in the past.
Here is the most recent/ongoing case:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5068838.stm
--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-
If you purchased an XP home upgrade in anything other than the green retail
box you got taken. The only upgrade cds that were available in clear cases
were NFR (not for resale) complimentary copies and they didn't have the
tri-fold pamphlet with the cd key. You bought a repackaged return. The
install key was on the pamphlet as expected, but the COA was from the top of
the returned box.
The fact that it is failing WGA is another matter. I can see activation
failing if someone else still has it loaded or they recently reloaded it
from a copied disk they made before returning the product, but validation
should not fail unless the key is in widespread use.
Follow the prompts when it fails to try the downloadable tool, if it still
fails follow up with MS to get replacement.
I agree with you completely that WGA is horribly flawed and needs work. You
should not have to pay for a new key if you follow this up with MS. You
purchased the product in good faith from a reputable source.
PS: Sams/WalMart has been known to sell bootleg merchandise in the past.
Here is the most recent/ongoing case:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5068838.stm
--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-
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hiredgun56
The consternation stems from installing a system in the last 3 maybe 4
years at LEAST 6-7 times....they pick up the numerous validations as
software piracy.
Lately, its been nothing but problems with XP updates, conflicts with
Norton Internet Security, etc etc.
Give you an example: I try to download all the recommended updates from
MS...I run NIS 2004, everytime I've done it...I lose sound to a few
programs. Something always fails with the updates. I've NEVER had a
problem running NIS or NAV in any way shape or form. I update the sound
drivers...still no luck.
My copy of XP is probably 4 years old now....going on 5....I'm not a
stupid guy when it comes to computers. My computer is 4 years old, with
a replaced hard drive since I've owned it.
I've built at least 50 computers for myself, friends...etc etc. its not
the hardware...its the software.
WGA is a joke. I will be pliable enough to understand MS's plight of
getting all the pirated software out of the market. From a business
perspective, I wouldn't want that to happen to me either. They have
probably lost hundreds of millions of dollars on software piracy.
Piracy is just like shoplifting. You don't want to lose your goods.
Period.
So..the numerous installs to get things to work right....is the
problem. I have only critical updates installed on my computer, no SP1,
or SP2, like MS recommends...and things run fine, as long as I use NIS
without any updates or MS SP2. I will go on record as stating, the one
time I did use SP2 without NIS, just ran everything MS recommended as a
stand alone, that gave me more problems than Norton with SP2.
The point is right in front of you. You're reading it....I've written
to Microsoft about this problem. I know I'm not the only one that has
problems. XP is a flawed system, and the internet updates....(the "save
all of software")..are a joke in themselves. And MS, do yourself a
favor, hire the guys that hack your software. Its the same in Vegas,
where the casinos hire ex-casino crooks to catch the other crooks.
This way, maybe your OS would work, and you wouldnt be reading letters
like this.
Bring back the DOS days.....at least it works...
years at LEAST 6-7 times....they pick up the numerous validations as
software piracy.
Lately, its been nothing but problems with XP updates, conflicts with
Norton Internet Security, etc etc.
Give you an example: I try to download all the recommended updates from
MS...I run NIS 2004, everytime I've done it...I lose sound to a few
programs. Something always fails with the updates. I've NEVER had a
problem running NIS or NAV in any way shape or form. I update the sound
drivers...still no luck.
My copy of XP is probably 4 years old now....going on 5....I'm not a
stupid guy when it comes to computers. My computer is 4 years old, with
a replaced hard drive since I've owned it.
I've built at least 50 computers for myself, friends...etc etc. its not
the hardware...its the software.
WGA is a joke. I will be pliable enough to understand MS's plight of
getting all the pirated software out of the market. From a business
perspective, I wouldn't want that to happen to me either. They have
probably lost hundreds of millions of dollars on software piracy.
Piracy is just like shoplifting. You don't want to lose your goods.
Period.
So..the numerous installs to get things to work right....is the
problem. I have only critical updates installed on my computer, no SP1,
or SP2, like MS recommends...and things run fine, as long as I use NIS
without any updates or MS SP2. I will go on record as stating, the one
time I did use SP2 without NIS, just ran everything MS recommended as a
stand alone, that gave me more problems than Norton with SP2.
The point is right in front of you. You're reading it....I've written
to Microsoft about this problem. I know I'm not the only one that has
problems. XP is a flawed system, and the internet updates....(the "save
all of software")..are a joke in themselves. And MS, do yourself a
favor, hire the guys that hack your software. Its the same in Vegas,
where the casinos hire ex-casino crooks to catch the other crooks.
This way, maybe your OS would work, and you wouldnt be reading letters
like this.
Bring back the DOS days.....at least it works...