restore failure

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Using win xp home on a PC using win xp's restore function.

I set a restore point, then removed a program.

Decided I did not want to remove program, so I restored to the set point set
prior to removal.

Program does not function.

WHY???
 
System restore will restore the registry completely but only restores certain
core XP files. If you removed a program from your system, running the system
restore will restore all of its registry values, but the actual files that
make up the program are still long gone.
 
MikeG said:
System restore will restore the registry completely but only restores
certain
core XP files. If you removed a program from your system, running the
system
restore will restore all of its registry values, but the actual files that
make up the program are still long gone.
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Then that means that when I have deleted a program, it is gone! never to
come back again.

Then what is the point of MS saying that system restore is a great thing
that ACTUALLY 'restores' the computer to a past condition (like GOBack)?
 
Yes anon when you remove a program that is not vital to windows after a
restore point then the restore point will not back it up. Windows XP's
System Restore is a great program as far as fixing windows corruption
problems goes but it doesn't support non vital system programs. You can
however go out and buy Phoenix FirstWare Recover Pro for like 25 bucks and it
will do a complete Hard Drive backup so you can do what you were wanting to
do.

Joe

Kemco IT Professional
 
anon said:
Then that means that when I have deleted a program, it is gone! never
to come back again.

Then what is the point of MS saying that system restore is a great
thing that ACTUALLY 'restores' the computer to a past condition (like
GOBack)?
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Because MS *doesn't* say that System Restore is a substitute for GoBack
(or for regularly backing up your data). To understand System Restore,
see MVP Bert Kinney's website here:

http://bertk.mvps.org

Malke
 
Malke said:
Because MS *doesn't* say that System Restore is a substitute for GoBack
(or for regularly backing up your data). To understand System Restore,
see MVP Bert Kinney's website here:

http://bertk.mvps.org
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I guess that I made the dumb assumption that 'restore' was the same as
GoBack.

Will now research further as I think there are several programs like GoBack.
 
Plato said:
http://www.bootdisk.com/xptop20.htm#15
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Actually that link does not apply,

A Restore 'apparently worked, went to completion and did not hang.

B Rebooted and program still does not function.

C Was only interested in restoring the program no useful data involved.

D I doubt that it restored all the registry even though the link says it
does.

E The most interesting statement in the link is that restore is not
perfected yet (that is MS sending out stuff (beta but we are not told it is
beta) for the end user to debug - free beta testers!

F "Work in the future" after uninstall and reinstall - HA, I needed the
program now not in the future.

G MS should be upfront with the description of Restore - telling us it does
NOT 'restore' anything but (maybe) the registry.
 
anon said:
Using win xp home on a PC using win xp's restore function.

I set a restore point, then removed a program.

Decided I did not want to remove program, so I restored to the set
point set prior to removal.

Program does not function.

WHY???
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The name System Restore should answer your question. Big hint
SYSTEM.
 
Might I suggest you click Start, Help and Support, Enter "System
Restore" as the search term, now click the link "Understanding System
Restore" and read the information. If you can't be bothered to learn,
please don't bother posting.
 
I think that the following (copied from 'overview' in the suggested pages)
is what confused me.

---copy--
System Restore is a component of Windows XP Home Edition that you can use to
restore your computer to a previous state, if a problem occurs, without
losing your personal data files

For example, if you accidentally delete monitored program files (such as
files that have the .exe or .dll file name extensions), or monitored program
files become corrupted, you can restore your computer to a state that
existed before those changes occurred.
--end copy---

When it said restore to previous condition, and restore program files -
that is what I thought it did - like GoBack.
 
Those links do not clear up my concerns of the last post.

Someone mentioned SYSTEM - what exactly does system mean?

If it is registry only - I doubt that the registry was 'restored' in its
entirety after the restore operation.

If it is more than registry - what else?

---I copied the below form system help---
Feature: System Restore

When to use it: When using Add or Remove Programs did not solve the problem.
You must be logged on as an administrator.

What it does: Restores all system and application settings back to those
that were in effect at a point in time you specify. Restores key
application, driver, and operating system files changed since that time. As
a result, any changes the program has made to your system are undone. Does
not affect data files.

---end copy----
 
Bert Kinney said:
List of files and folders System Restore monitors:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/filesfolders.html
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OK - it seems that 'restore' is misnamed - maybe MS should have called it
'just a joke'

I guess in a very limited scope, restore does help.

I guess that because I had been using GoBack that I just extended the
meaning of (restore) to include what GoBack did.

My bad. I just expected too much from MS.

Thanks for the (beat me over the head) help in seeing what restore does
(does-not) do.
 
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