Resolving Dependencies & Cloning

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I had asked a question a while back about keeping my image small and
reducing the clutter. For an example, do away with all English Languages
except United States. I was told to turn off autoresolve while adding
components. I did, and I have oh, 400 or so items in my task list to wade
through.

So my question is, that task list still fills up with all the stuff I
should add. Do I simply ignore the stuff I don't want to add like the
languages above and build the image with all the dependency errors? How do
I know the image will still work, trail and error?


Last question, I don't have to add the cloning component do I? I want to
build an image, do all the final configurations (Software install, Static IP
Address, turn off the services and stuff I don't want) Reseal it, then copy
that Post FBA image for distribution for use within our company. I hear
what you all are saying about duplicate IP Addresses and all, but these
systems will never be tied to a network together. They are individual
devices on their own and the only networking is when a user has to do
updates or changes with a laptop and tcpip. See, I'd like to keep the IP
addresses the same, or at least all the machine names the same. They would
all have the same MS License although their individual, unique stickers
will be on the case.




Thanks,
Richard
 
Richard,
I had asked a question a while back about keeping my image small and
reducing the clutter. For an example, do away with all English Languages
except United States. I was told to turn off autoresolve while adding
components. I did, and I have oh, 400 or so items in my task list to wade
through.
So my question is, that task list still fills up with all the stuff I
should add.
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There are components that won't eat much space on disk (they bring only few
new registry keys and that is it) so you should consider leaving some
components for your sake too have less warnings and the more things you have
resolved greater is the chance that you won't forget something.
Do I simply ignore the stuff I don't want to add like the
languages above and build the image with all the dependency errors? How do
I know the image will still work, trail and error?
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Yes. Wxpirience and knowledge of different arrea of windows will allow you
to do less trial and error but you must always test every posible option
that your aplications will/can use.
Last question, I don't have to add the cloning component do I? I want to
build an image, do all the final configurations (Software install, Static IP
Address, turn off the services and stuff I don't want) Reseal it, then copy
that Post FBA image for distribution for use within our company. I hear
what you all are saying about duplicate IP Addresses and all, but these
systems will never be tied to a network together. They are individual
devices on their own and the only networking is when a user has to do
updates or changes with a laptop and tcpip. See, I'd like to keep the IP
addresses the same, or at least all the machine names the same. They would
all have the same MS License although their individual, unique stickers
will be on the case.
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Nop. You don't need cloning.

Regards,
Slobodan

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I found the answer on resolving dependencies under a previous message "FTP"
so that is handled.
I'd still like to know if cloning the way I mentioned is a problem.....

Thanks,
Richard
 
Richard,

Answers are inline...

Richard said:
I had asked a question a while back about keeping my image small and
reducing the clutter. For an example, do away with all English Languages
except United States. I was told to turn off autoresolve while adding
components. I did, and I have oh, 400 or so items in my task list to wade
through.
Click to expand...

AFAIK adding the "English Language Support" component and then not resolving
the locale dependencies (UK, Jamaca, etc...) won't decrease the footprint of
your runtime. I think the locale components are just registry entries with a
size of 0kb.
So my question is, that task list still fills up with all the stuff I
should add. Do I simply ignore the stuff I don't want to add like the
languages above and build the image with all the dependency errors? How do
I know the image will still work, trail and error?
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You can choose not to satisfy the dependencies, or go ahead and add the
components into the runtime and disable them. Trial and error is the best
method of testing, but going into the process with a strong understanding of
the internals of Windows help minimize mistakes \ errors in the runtime.
Last question, I don't have to add the cloning component do I? I want to
build an image, do all the final configurations (Software install, Static IP
Address, turn off the services and stuff I don't want) Reseal it, then copy
that Post FBA image for distribution for use within our company. I hear
what you all are saying about duplicate IP Addresses and all, but these
systems will never be tied to a network together. They are individual
devices on their own and the only networking is when a user has to do
updates or changes with a laptop and tcpip. See, I'd like to keep the IP
addresses the same, or at least all the machine names the same. They would
all have the same MS License although their individual, unique stickers
will be on the case.
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If you want to manually reseal the image you need to add the Cloning
component and set the reseal phase to 0. You can tell the tool to keep
everything (IP Address, Computer Name, User Info, etc..).
Just set it in the advanced properties of the cloning component in TD.

Yes, having the same PID is OK, as long as the box has the license sticker.
Thanks,
Richard
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Richard:

If you don't use the cloning tool then all the SID's would be the same.
There are other ways to change the SID too. This is probably only an issue
if the machines would be connected to a domain. If so, then it would also
be problem if they all had the same machine name.

So, you are probably ok as long as your machines never join a domain.

HTH... Doug
 
KM:

Thanks for setting me straight on this :-)

.... Doug
KM said:
Doug,

Actually, the computers SIDs are important in Workgroup environment but
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not in domain environment. In Workgroup environment security
 
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