Recover data after its deleted.

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Alright here is my problem:

I moved files from comp A to comp B
I formatted comp b so I lost all my data, can I still retrieve it from
comp A where I only moved the files? I did some research myself but I
found alot of options, if anyone knows a good program for this please
let me know.

This all happend in the same day

Thanks in advance.
 
To get the best result don't do anything on comp A until you get a recovery
utility recommendation that will work for you - any activity on comp A could
overwrite parts or all of the deleted files... and become unrecoverable, I'm
sure someone with more knowledge will be along soon to advise you on actual
tools/procedure - but don't use comp A
 
Daniel said:
Alright here is my problem:

I moved files from comp A to comp B
I formatted comp b so I lost all my data, can I still retrieve it from
comp A where I only moved the files? I did some research myself but I
found alot of options, if anyone knows a good program for this please
let me know.

Restorer 2000
www.bitmart.net

Dan





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Daniel said:
Alright here is my problem:

I moved files from comp A to comp B
I formatted comp b so I lost all my data, can I still retrieve it from
comp A where I only moved the files? I did some research myself but I
found alot of options, if anyone knows a good program for this please
let me know.

This all happend in the same day
Your chances to recover data off A or B depend upon what you already did
after moving or formatting: the less you did the better they are.
I would go with the "formatted" computer first, and use a 2nd drive to
install a recovery program or/and move the data to.
Do _not_ attempt to install any, not even a recovery program, on the
partition you have data to restore off, and do not boot into windows on
computer A anymore. You need some floppy or liveCD, or a OS installed on a
2nd partition or disk.
Now I would go with http://download.pcinspector.de/pci_filerecovery.exe
first.
 
Daniel said:
Alright here is my problem:

I moved files from comp A to comp B
I formatted comp b so I lost all my data, can I still retrieve it from
comp A where I only moved the files? I did some research myself but I
found alot of options, if anyone knows a good program for this please
let me know.

This all happend in the same day

Thanks in advance.
PCI File Recovery v4. Free at
www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/UK/welcome.htm.
 
If you moved all the files from computer A to computer B. The files should
be on both. If you format the drive on computer A or computer B, the files
should still be on the opposite computer that you did not format the drive.

If the files are not accessible on the opposite computer, then they
obviously either were corrupt, or you never checked that they were there in
the first place.

After transferring files to another computer, it is common sense to verify
that they are actually at the new location, and that they are useable. If
you don't do that, then you are subject to the chance of losing them.

--

JANA
_____


Alright here is my problem:

I moved files from comp A to comp B
I formatted comp b so I lost all my data, can I still retrieve it from
comp A where I only moved the files? I did some research myself but I
found alot of options, if anyone knows a good program for this please
let me know.

This all happend in the same day

Thanks in advance.
 
Not quite a "move" (ie cut/paste) is not the same as a "copy" (ie
copy/paste) - but they should still be on comp A in a deleted state.
 
the employee who jumps through hoops said:
If you moved all the files from computer A to computer B. The files
should be on both.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! You shitwitted ****stick. Move <> copy. And learn to use
a newsreader, you ****ing idiot.

"I moved files from comp A to comp B"



--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006

ObHint: Just because you argue with a notorious ****wit netk0oK, it
does not necessarily follow that you are not also a ****wit netk0oK.
 
Daniel said:
I moved files from comp A to comp B
I formatted comp b so I lost all my data, can I still retrieve it from
comp A where I only moved the files? I did some research myself but I
found alot of options, if anyone knows a good program for this please
let me know.


"Deleting" a file doesn't actually delete it; it just marks the space as
available to be used. There are third-party programs that can sometimes
recover deleted files. The problem is that the space used by the file is
likely to become overwritten very quickly, and this makes the file
unrecoverable.

So your chances of successfully recovering this file are decent if you try
recovering it immediately after deleting it, and rapidly go downhill from
there. If you've been using the computer since then (for example to write
this question and read this answer), your chances are probably very poor by
now.

But if the file is important enough, it's worth a try anyway. Stop using the
computer in question immediately, if you haven't done so already. Download
an undelete program (here's one:
http://www3.telus.net/mikebike/RESTORATION.html but there are several others
to choose from; do a Google search) on a friend's computer and bring it to
yours on a floppy to try.

If this fails, your only other recourse is to take the drive to a
professional file recovery company. This kind of service is very expensive
and may or may not work in your case.
 
JANA said:
If you moved all the files from computer A to computer B. The files
should be on both.


No, he says he "moved" the files. "Move," unlike "copy," implies that the
original is gone. A move is equivalent to a copy plus a delete. If he truly
moved them, they are gone from computer A. They *may* be recoverable (see my
other post oin this thread), but they may not be.
 
Download the small file to a floppy disk or a CD and run it from there.
DO NOT download it to your harddrive, for it may overwrite some of the
files you are trying to restore.
Free Download - Restoration 2.5.14
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4474.html

If that doesn't work, try a System Restore. The files you have deleted
may be in one of the Restore Points. They are stored for up to 90 days.
Start>All Programs>Accessories>System Tools>System Restore

There are additional procedures you can use in case above do not work.
One is SFC. SFC=System File Check to restore system files only that are
either corrupt of missing.
Start>Run>type SFC /SCANNOW (space between C and /), it may ask for
you to insert your WindowsXP CD.
 
No, he says he "moved" the files. "Move," unlike "copy,"
implies that the original is gone. A move is equivalent to
a copy plus a delete. If he truly moved them, they are gone
from computer A. They *may* be recoverable (see my other
post oin this thread), but they may not be.

Aren't you contradicting yourself in your two posts? First you
say "delete" doesn't really delete, which most people should
know by now, anyway.

In the next post, you say "moved = copy/delete". You JUST SAID
delete doesn't REALLY delete? Didn't you?

Is this part of MVP training? M$ staff are pretty good at this
kind of thing.

(Just a little humor, don't get personally offended please.)

Not to mention the fact that since the OP does not appear to be
an expert - and even an expert could have accidentally misused
the words - he may well have actually *copied* but used the term
*moved*.

OP:
Check the "first" drive with one of the restoration utilities
Ken mentioned. It's probably all there. (Just for the hell of
it, check the recycle bin first.)
 
thanatoid said:
Aren't you contradicting yourself in your two posts?

No.


First you
say "delete" doesn't really delete, which most people should
know by now, anyway.


"Should know" doesn't mean "does know." Many people don't know. If the OP
knew it, he probably wouldn't have asked the question.

In the next post, you say "moved = copy/delete". You JUST SAID
delete doesn't REALLY delete? Didn't you?


Yes, I did. Nevertheless "move" does equal copy plus delete. The problem is
that the word "delete: is used in two different ways and you're mixing them
up. When I say "move equals copy plus delete," I mean "delete "in the normal
sense of what people mean when say they delete a file: they press
shift-delete, or delete and then clear out the recycle bin. That makes the
file invisible and unaccessable, but doesn't actually remove it.

When I say "delete doesn't really delete," the first "delete" in that
sentence is the use above; the second delete is used to mean that the file
has not actually been .removed from the drive.


Is this part of MVP training? M$ staff are pretty good at this
kind of thing.


Lest you be confused, neither I nor any other MVP is a Microsoft employees.
MVPs are volunteers. The title "MVP" is honorary, and MVPs get awarded the
title by providing regular helpful advice, here in the newsgroups and
elsewhere.

Rerad about the MVP program here:
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpexecsum


(Just a little humor, don't get personally offended please.)


I'm not offended at all. If you meant this as humor, what I wrote above may
be something you already know, but I wrote it anyway to clarify the
situation for others who may not understand.

Not to mention the fact that since the OP does not appear to be
an expert - and even an expert could have accidentally misused
the words - he may well have actually *copied* but used the term
*moved*.


That actually occurred to me, whicdh is why, in my second message in this
thread, I said " If he truly
moved them, they are gone from computer A" I originally wrote the sentence
without the words " If he truly
moved them," then added them for just that reason. But also note the subject
line if the thread: he uses the phrase "after it's deleted," which certainly
implies that he actually did move it, not do a copy.

OP:
Check the "first" drive with one of the restoration utilities
Ken mentioned. It's probably all there. (Just for the hell of
it, check the recycle bin first.)


It certainly doesn't hurt to do as you suggest and check the recycle bin
first. But my guess is that it's not there and that an undelete utility
won't find it either. I hope I'm wrong, but the problem is that by the time
most people get around to asking the question here, the computer has been
used for a while and the space has been reused.
 
"Should know" doesn't mean "does know." Many people don't
know. If the OP knew it, he probably wouldn't have asked
the question.


Yes, I did. Nevertheless "move" does equal copy plus
delete. The problem is that the word "delete: is used in
two different ways and you're mixing them up.

I prefer to call what I did "pointing out a subtle distinction
without spelling it all out" (which you do next).
When I say
"move equals copy plus delete," I mean "delete "in the
normal sense of what people mean when say they delete a
file: they press shift-delete, or delete and then clear out
the recycle bin. That makes the file invisible and
unaccessable, but doesn't actually remove it.

When I say "delete doesn't really delete," the first
"delete" in that sentence is the use above; the second
delete is used to mean that the file has not actually been
.removed from the drive.

I am not QUITE following this. I will refrain from making M$
jokes, and I do know MVP's are not M$ employees, but M$ software
being what it is, they are either Mother Theresas of the
computer world, or masochists, or both...

(Hmmm..........)
[this is a one-word joke for cynical non-believers]

How about (if you care to answer me, and it's probably not worth
it since I am not REALLY disagreeing with you, and your advice
to the OP was very good) we use the terms delete (in recycle bin
or somewhere else on your machine - like at the tail end of a
Word document /wink/ when you look at it in a non-MS text
editor) and DELETE for the "deleted from RBin and have to use
Rest. or something else to get it IF you haven't overwritten
it".

(I suppose there could be a D*E*L*E*T*E if you employ a data
recovery company or buy a $500 program, but I can't think of
many individuals who would care enough to pay for such things.)

It would be *nice* if the OP posted a little note mentioning
exactly what he did and what happened en the end.. So many
people never bother. I once just THANKED someone for his advice
and he was SHOCKED!

Regards
t.
 
Thanks for the help everyone, I used a recovery program and saved some
of my files, it couldn't restore them all though. I still havea
question though:

The comp I did the restore had been used a little bit, would I have
even lost the data if the comp was just turned on without doing
anything except for sharing internet?

Thanks again,

Dan
 
Thanks for the help everyone, I used a recovery program and
saved some of my files, it couldn't restore them all
though. I still havea question though:

The comp I did the restore had been used a little bit,
would I have even lost the data if the comp was just turned
on without doing anything except for sharing internet?

Thanks again,

Dan

You're very lucky if you can restore EVERY file. Some may be
corrupted a little bit, some beyond help. That's when data
recovery companies (at $500 or so) come in.

Not sure what you mean by 'sharing internet", and every net
connection DOES write SOME data to the disk, but most of it may
still be there.
 
Daniel said:
Thanks for the help everyone, I used a recovery program and saved some
of my files, it couldn't restore them all though. I still havea
question though:

The comp I did the restore had been used a little bit, would I have
even lost the data if the comp was just turned on without doing
anything except for sharing internet?

Thanks again,

Dan
If you ever have an accident the only course
I would advise is: FREEZE!!!!. Dont do anything,
but think for a few seconds, and then I would do a
forced shutdown(with the power switch).

Dont try to find out the damage under Windows.
Anything you try to do/examine,will cause log and temp
data to overwrite what is at that moment "empty space".
Boot instead from a recovery floppy/CD,and see what
damage you can undo.
If you have GOST2003,you might even make an image
copy of the disk concerned , first.
Then you can undo your repair work,if it fails.
I have pulled a few rescue disks from the net
with ntfs recovery support(dont have a link)
whenever I found one somewhere(bootdisk.com????)
 
If you ever have an accident the only course
I would advise is: FREEZE!!!!. Dont do anything,
but think for a few seconds, and then I would do a
forced shutdown(with the power switch).
Dont try to find out the damage under Windows.
Anything you try to do/examine,will cause log and temp
data to overwrite what is at that moment "empty space".

Absolutely. Stay in DOS. (In fact, there ARE people who still
use DOS for everything, but that's another subject.)
Boot instead from a recovery floppy/CD,and see what
damage you can undo.
If you have GOST2003,you might even make an image
copy of the disk concerned , first.

GHOST2003 might work even better ;-)

Or Acronis True Image - that's what I use. I have been able to
say goodbye to all backup/restore/recovery/registry changes/file
trackers/ etc etc etc etc etc etc programs I used to have to
**** around with every time anything went wrong.
 
Daniel said:
Thanks for the help everyone, I used a recovery program and saved some
of my files, it couldn't restore them all though. I still havea
question though:
You might have tried both computers - a "format" does not delete files, just
erases pointers to them (the allocation tables).
The comp I did the restore had been used a little bit, would I have
even lost the data if the comp was just turned on without doing
anything except for sharing internet?
If you mean "just turn on to make internet connection sharing through it
work", it still starts services and logging (eventlog) and maybe -
depending upon installed programs - background defragmentation.
You always have to expect some damaged/lost files after accidents like this.
Next time just turn off the pc when you discover "the Evil(tm) has ridden
me", take a break and then carefully plan recovery. Attaching the drive to
a 2nd working system is one good option, using a liveCD another.
In any case, if you have important data, do not write to the affected disk,
use a image instead.
 
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