Re-installing XP on system rebuild

[mv]

I have an OEM version of XPHome that I'm the registered owner of.

I built a new system. Can I install XP on the new system using this cd and
re-activate it? Will I be able to slave the hard drive from the old system
so that I can delete the old os and access the program and data files on it?
Thanks

mv

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

The license for an OEM version of Windows XP
is directly tied to the first PC it was and installed
and activated on. It cannot be transferred to a
new PC. Only a "Retail Version" can be transferred
and successfully reactivated on a new PC.

Therefore, you will need to purchase a new copy of
Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| I have an OEM version of XPHome that I'm the registered owner of.
|
| I built a new system. Can I install XP on the new system using this cd and
| re-activate it? Will I be able to slave the hard drive from the old system
| so that I can delete the old os and access the program and data files on it?
| Thanks
|
| mv

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I have an OEM version of XPHome that I'm the registered owner of.

I built a new system. Can I install XP on the new system using this
cd and re-activate it?

No. You may have a single copy of XP on only one system at a time. With OEM
versiuns, there's an additional restriction: its license limits it to the
first computer it's on installed on and you may not move it to another.

 

[Mistoffolees]

I have an OEM version of XPHome that I'm the registered owner of.

I built a new system. Can I install XP on the new system using this cd and
re-activate it? Will I be able to slave the hard drive from the old system
so that I can delete the old os and access the program and data files on it?
Thanks

mv

There is the "generic" OEM version of Windows XP and there
is the "branded" versions. Which one is this? For the former,
and since you are supposedly a "system builder", there are
no other issues if the "new" system is a "repair" of the
original system also built by you.

The latter type of "branded" OEM versions is fraught with
issues, including bios-locking to the specific brand, plus
the fact that the OS is not transferrable in any event to
another system.

 

[mv]

There is the "generic" OEM version of Windows XP and there
is the "branded" versions. Which one is this? For the former,
and since you are supposedly a "system builder", there are
no other issues if the "new" system is a "repair" of the
original system also built by you.

The latter type of "branded" OEM versions is fraught with
issues, including bios-locking to the specific brand, plus
the fact that the OS is not transferrable in any event to
another system.

I have the generic OEM version... the type that is sold when another piece
of hardware is purchased.

I'm not going to use this copy on any other computers than this new one. I
just want to get a clean install on the new system then delete the old os
from the old drive that will be slaved to the new drive.

If I have to, will I be able to install the old drive (with XP still on it)
on the new system and use that as my master drive? Or will XP detect too
many changes in the system and refuse to run? "IF I have to" because I'd
rather not because that drive is 3 years old and I would rather use the
newer faster drive as the primary.

Thanks again.

mv

 

[Mistoffolees]

I have the generic OEM version... the type that is sold when another piece
of hardware is purchased.

I'm not going to use this copy on any other computers than this new one. I
just want to get a clean install on the new system then delete the old os
from the old drive that will be slaved to the new drive.

If I have to, will I be able to install the old drive (with XP still on it)
on the new system and use that as my master drive? Or will XP detect too
many changes in the system and refuse to run? "IF I have to" because I'd
rather not because that drive is 3 years old and I would rather use the
newer faster drive as the primary.

Thanks again.

mv

Before Carey jumps all over this issue, is the "qualifying"
hardware for the Windows XP OEM version still being used in
the new system? If not, the license died with the original
computer and a new license will need to be purchased. So
much for my right-brained sense of justice.

If this is truly "repair" and not a total upgrade to a new
system, then using the existing HD in the replacement system
lends proof to the pudding, as would be retaining other parts
of the original system. Your call as a system builder but my
left-brained sense of justice thinks not, since you "...would
rather use the new, faster drive as the primary." In this
context, a new Windows XP license is indicated.

 

[Jan Alter]

So I'm inclined to ask what if the OEM XP license that was purchased was
bought with a USB mouse and a floppy drive? As long as he uses the mouse or
a floppy drive on the new system he's OK I would assume.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Nope. When you install a different motherboard,
the OEM license can no longer be used. That's
why OEM licensing is not a good idea for those
who make motherboard upgrades.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| So I'm inclined to ask what if the OEM XP license that was purchased was
| bought with a USB mouse and a floppy drive? As long as he uses the mouse or
| a floppy drive on the new system he's OK I would assume.
|
| --
| Jan Alter

 

[Saucy Lemon]

I have an OEM version of XPHome that I'm the registered owner of.

I built a new system. Can I install XP on the new system using this
cd and re-activate it? Will I be able to slave the hard drive from
the old system so that I can delete the old os and access the program
and data files on it? Thanks

mv

IANAL [I Am Not A Lawyer]
IDNRM [I Do Not Represent Microsoft]

The licence is NON-TRANSFERABLE. So to remain in the straight and narrow, go
out and get a copy.

Let me explain:

[technically]
If this is a regular OEM copy and the computer is one built by you, yes, you
CAN technically, physcially perform the operation as Activation should work
if it has been 120 days since you last activated that copy. This is not
advice that you actually do so because to do so would be to contradict the
OEM EULA.

[legally]
However, you MAY NOT [according to the OEM EULA] do so if this is not an
upgrade of the old computer, rather an entirely new computer. The OEM
licence ties the operating system copy to the original computer and is not
considered legitmate by Microsoft [not itself a legal authority nor a
legislator, but indeed a legal entity] for you to use the copy on a new
computer.

[sensibly]
A business operation certainly should obtain a new OEM copy.

[morally]
A private householder should check his conscience and do what he knows is
right.

[my advice]
Some places online or some computer shops will be willing to sell you
another OEM copy of Home ed. if you purchase a computer component such as a
$5 cable or a $10 floppy drive. This is legitmate and the OEM price is
usually less - however, as you know, the licence is not transferable.

[comment] It's seems silly, especially when you have the disc right there.
But consider, do you want to go out and work but not get paid? No. Neither
do the people who create software. They have a right to be compensated for
their work.

 

[mv]

Before Carey jumps all over this issue, is the "qualifying"
hardware for the Windows XP OEM version still being used in
the new system? If not, the license died with the original
computer and a new license will need to be purchased. So
much for my right-brained sense of justice.

If this is truly "repair" and not a total upgrade to a new
system, then using the existing HD in the replacement system
lends proof to the pudding, as would be retaining other parts
of the original system. Your call as a system builder but my
left-brained sense of justice thinks not, since you "...would
rather use the new, faster drive as the primary." In this
context, a new Windows XP license is indicated.

I don't know why I asked the swapping hard drive question because I did it
and Microsoft re-activated it... story: my computer stopped working...turns
out that it was my mobo. I start gathering supplies to rebuild an "new"
system. In the meantime I need to access stuff on my hard drive for work and
stuff so I borrow my dad's Sony Vaio and swap out the hard drives. I go
through the re-validation process, it takes, and his system is up and
running so that I can still continue to work off his computer using my hard
drive.

Now I'm wondering if I take this hard drive out of the dad's Vaio and put it
in the "new" system and go through the validation process again... whether
or not MS will put the clamps on this validation since it was done within a
short time (with another different hardware configuration). (?)

I honestly thought that being the legal owner of my generic OEM XP, it would
allow me to use it within my household (albeit on one computer only) even
when upgrading to a totally new system. But I guess that's only for retail
version users. Thanks.

The new system is compatible with the new 64 bit OS. But I've heard not to
get XP64...yet because of lack of drivers, etc. But then again, isn't
it/shouldn't it be backwards compatible?

mv

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Question:

"Now I'm wondering if I take this hard drive out of the dad's Vaio and put it
in the "new" system and go through the validation process again... whether
or not MS will put the clamps on this validation since it was done within a
short time (with another different hardware configuration). (?)"

Answer:

It won't boot or activate at all since you are removing it from the Sony PC.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| I don't know why I asked the swapping hard drive question because I did it
| and Microsoft re-activated it... story: my computer stopped working...turns
| out that it was my mobo. I start gathering supplies to rebuild an "new"
| system. In the meantime I need to access stuff on my hard drive for work and
| stuff so I borrow my dad's Sony Vaio and swap out the hard drives. I go
| through the re-validation process, it takes, and his system is up and
| running so that I can still continue to work off his computer using my hard
| drive.
|
| Now I'm wondering if I take this hard drive out of the dad's Vaio and put it
| in the "new" system and go through the validation process again... whether
| or not MS will put the clamps on this validation since it was done within a
| short time (with another different hardware configuration). (?)
|
| I honestly thought that being the legal owner of my generic OEM XP, it would
| allow me to use it within my household (albeit on one computer only) even
| when upgrading to a totally new system. But I guess that's only for retail
| version users. Thanks.
|
| The new system is compatible with the new 64 bit OS. But I've heard not to
| get XP64...yet because of lack of drivers, etc. But then again, isn't
| it/shouldn't it be backwards compatible?
|
| mv

 

[mv]

I have an OEM version of XPHome that I'm the registered owner of.

I built a new system. Can I install XP on the new system using this
cd and re-activate it? Will I be able to slave the hard drive from
the old system so that I can delete the old os and access the program
and data files on it? Thanks

mv

IANAL [I Am Not A Lawyer]
IDNRM [I Do Not Represent Microsoft]

The licence is NON-TRANSFERABLE. So to remain in the straight and narrow,
go out and get a copy.

Let me explain:

[technically]
If this is a regular OEM copy and the computer is one built by you, yes,
you CAN technically, physcially perform the operation as Activation should
work if it has been 120 days since you last activated that copy. This is
not advice that you actually do so because to do so would be to
contradict the OEM EULA.

[legally]
However, you MAY NOT [according to the OEM EULA] do so if this is not an
upgrade of the old computer, rather an entirely new computer. The OEM
licence ties the operating system copy to the original computer and is not
considered legitmate by Microsoft [not itself a legal authority nor a
legislator, but indeed a legal entity] for you to use the copy on a new
computer.

[sensibly]
A business operation certainly should obtain a new OEM copy.

[morally]
A private householder should check his conscience and do what he knows is
right.

[my advice]
Some places online or some computer shops will be willing to sell you
another OEM copy of Home ed. if you purchase a computer component such as
a $5 cable or a $10 floppy drive. This is legitmate and the OEM price is
usually less - however, as you know, the licence is not transferable.

[comment] It's seems silly, especially when you have the disc right there.
But consider, do you want to go out and work but not get paid? No.
Neither do the people who create software. They have a right to be
compensated for their work.

Thanks for breaking it down. I'm just going to get another copy since it is
the "right" thing to do. I really thought that being the registered owner
allowed me to use it on a new build and on that new build only... I guess
not.

mv

 

[mv]

But why was I able to activate it when I put the hard drive (from my broken
mobo system) to the Sony? My question is whether or not it would work if I
now put it in my new system that I just built (this is second swap of the
drive in a different system).

I swapped it into the Sony just so that I could continue to work (MSOffice,
Autocad, etc) while I rebuilt the computer

I'm going to get a new license anyway, maybe the new 64-bit XP. Now I'm just
wondering if I can do this in the meantime.

mv

Question:

"Now I'm wondering if I take this hard drive out of the dad's Vaio and put
it
in the "new" system and go through the validation process again... whether
or not MS will put the clamps on this validation since it was done within
a
short time (with another different hardware configuration). (?)"

Answer:

It won't boot or activate at all since you are removing it from the Sony
PC.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

[/QUOTE]

 

[Saucy Lemon]

I don't know why I asked the swapping hard drive question because I
did it and Microsoft re-activated it... story: my computer stopped
working...turns out that it was my mobo. I start gathering supplies
to rebuild an "new" system. In the meantime I need to access stuff on
my hard drive for work and stuff so I borrow my dad's Sony Vaio and
swap out the hard drives. I go through the re-validation process, it
takes, and his system is up and running so that I can still continue
to work off his computer using my hard drive.

Now I'm wondering if I take this hard drive out of the dad's Vaio and
put it in the "new" system and go through the validation process
again... whether or not MS will put the clamps on this validation
since it was done within a short time (with another different
hardware configuration). (?)
I honestly thought that being the legal owner of my generic OEM XP,
it would allow me to use it within my household (albeit on one
computer only) even when upgrading to a totally new system. But I
guess that's only for retail version users. Thanks.

The new system is compatible with the new 64 bit OS. But I've heard
not to get XP64...yet because of lack of drivers, etc. But then
again, isn't it/shouldn't it be backwards compatible?

mv

You say "household". Are you staking "Fair Use Rights"? You may have them in
your community. Check with a para-legal or a lawyer.

Better yet, just go get a copy. An OEM version can be legitimately sold to
you by a vendor if he sells you a piece of hardware - even a lowly floppy
drive say - with it.

Anwyay, Windows 64 is a great operating system. Currently, t is not fully
supported by hardware manufacturers and third party software creators. Yes,
t *should* be backward compatible, but be realistic, it's not always going
to be.

Visit places like:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/communities/x64.mspx
http://www.planetamd64.com
http://www.extended64.com

Join the discussion forums if you are seriously interested.

 

[Alias]

Nope. When you install a different motherboard,
the OEM license can no longer be used.

There you go again, lying through your teeth trying to convince people
to spend money they don't need to spend.

That's
why OEM licensing is not a good idea for those
who make motherboard upgrades.

This post is why no one should listen to you.

 

[Alias]

I have an OEM version of XPHome that I'm the registered owner of.

I built a new system. Can I install XP on the new system using this cd and
re-activate it? Will I be able to slave the hard drive from the old system
so that I can delete the old os and access the program and data files on it?
Thanks

mv

Make sure that you use some components from the old computer so that you
can say, if you need to make a call when you try to activate, that you
updated the old computer. It's not MS' business *what* you upgraded.

 

[Alias]

I have an OEM version of XPHome that I'm the registered owner of.

I built a new system. Can I install XP on the new system using this
cd and re-activate it? Will I be able to slave the hard drive from
the old system so that I can delete the old os and access the program
and data files on it? Thanks

mv

IANAL [I Am Not A Lawyer]
IDNRM [I Do Not Represent Microsoft]

The licence is NON-TRANSFERABLE. So to remain in the straight and narrow,
go out and get a copy.

Let me explain:

[technically]
If this is a regular OEM copy and the computer is one built by you, yes,
you CAN technically, physcially perform the operation as Activation should
work if it has been 120 days since you last activated that copy. This is
not advice that you actually do so because to do so would be to
contradict the OEM EULA.

[legally]
However, you MAY NOT [according to the OEM EULA] do so if this is not an
upgrade of the old computer, rather an entirely new computer. The OEM
licence ties the operating system copy to the original computer and is not
considered legitmate by Microsoft [not itself a legal authority nor a
legislator, but indeed a legal entity] for you to use the copy on a new
computer.

[sensibly]
A business operation certainly should obtain a new OEM copy.

[morally]
A private householder should check his conscience and do what he knows is
right.

[my advice]
Some places online or some computer shops will be willing to sell you
another OEM copy of Home ed. if you purchase a computer component such as
a $5 cable or a $10 floppy drive. This is legitmate and the OEM price is
usually less - however, as you know, the licence is not transferable.

[comment] It's seems silly, especially when you have the disc right there.
But consider, do you want to go out and work but not get paid? No.
Neither do the people who create software. They have a right to be
compensated for their work.

Thanks for breaking it down. I'm just going to get another copy since it is
the "right" thing to do. I really thought that being the registered owner
allowed me to use it on a new build and on that new build only... I guess
not.

mv

Depends on how you look at it. If you are upgrading your old computer
with a new MB, hard drive, video care or whatever, it is allowed. If you
build a completely new computer and don't use any of the components of
the old one, you're not allowed.

 

[GHalleck]

But why was I able to activate it when I put the hard drive (from my broken
mobo system) to the Sony? My question is whether or not it would work if I
now put it in my new system that I just built (this is second swap of the
drive in a different system).

I swapped it into the Sony just so that I could continue to work (MSOffice,
Autocad, etc) while I rebuilt the computer

<<snipped>>

The generic Windows XP OEM installation cdrom will work with
most computers and their motherboards. However, SONY machines
along with Dell, HP, Compaq, etc., are highly proprietary and
their "branded" OEM installation cdroms (if not a recovery disc)
are bios-locked to the specific manufacturer.

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

I have the generic OEM version... the type that is sold when another piece
of hardware is purchased.

Install and activate at will.

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

I have the generic OEM version... the type that is sold when another piece
of hardware is purchased.

Install and activate at will.