Randomly booted off programs

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i recently built a computer on my own and installed a windows 2000 on it that wasnt mine, then i upgraded it to a windows xp home. At first when windows 2000 was on the computer i was being kicked off in games at random times where the computer would just kick me off entirely and take me to my desktop. I thought there might be something wrong with the windows 2000 so i upgraded it to a windown xp but even with xp the same thing still happens which is random booting from games that i play. people have suggested that i need the latest video drivers for the games i play but i already have them, i already have the latest direct x also. I have been looking over alot of things to try and fix it but none of them have solved the problem. I was wondering if anyone here has an idea of why my computer may be doing this??? could it be a hardware malfuntion problem? maybe i screwed up building it somewhere? maybe it is a windows/programming problem? any help would be valued
 
scottneedshelp said:
i recently built a computer on my own and installed a windows 2000 on it that wasnt mine, then i upgraded it to a windows xp home. At first when windows 2000 was on the computer i was being kicked off in games at random times where the computer would just kick me off entirely and take me to my desktop. I thought there might be something wrong with the windows 2000 so i upgraded it to a windown xp but even with xp the same thing still happens which is random booting from games that i play. people have suggested that i need the latest video drivers for the games i play but i already have them, i already have the latest direct x also. I have been looking over alot of things to try and fix it but none of them have solved the problem. I was wondering if anyone here has an idea of why my computer may be doing this??? could it be a hardware malfuntion problem? maybe i screwed up building it somewhere? maybe it is a windows/programming problem? any help would be valued

Firstly, don't forget that capitalization makes message easier to read.

As for your problem, this sounds like a classic case of your video card
overheating. Put a heatsink and fan on the GPU, and some small
heatsinks on the RAM if they're hot after you get booted. If noise is a
problem, Zalman makes a great (albeit f-ing huge) passive cooler. If
you can't spare the money, use a program such as Powerstrip
(www.entechtaiwan.com) to underclock your videocard, but that may not
help completely.

If your system is overclocked, then you may need to either slow it down
or overvoltage it. Try increasing Vagp by 0.1Vdc, and then give it a
shot. Disable Spread Spectrum in your BIOS, as well, if EMI is not a
problem. Spread Spectrum has been known to cause problems with
stability on overclocked systems.
 
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windows 2000 on it that wasnt mine, then i upgraded it to a
windows xp home. At first when windows 2000 was on the
computer i was being kicked off in games at random times
where the computer would just kick me off entirely and take
me to my desktop. I thought there might be something wrong
with the windows 2000 so i upgraded it to a windown xp but
even with xp the same thing still happens which is random
booting from games that i play. people have suggested that
i need the latest video drivers for the games i play but i
already have them, i already have the latest direct x
also. I have been looking over alot of things to try and
fix it but none of them have solved the problem. I was
wondering if anyone here has an idea of why my computer may
be doing this??? could it be a hardware malfuntion problem?
maybe i screwed up building it somewhere? maybe it is a
windows/programming problem? any help would be valued
Firstly, don't forget that capitalization makes message easier to read.

As for your problem, this sounds like a classic case of your video card
overheating. Put a heatsink and fan on the GPU, and some small
heatsinks on the RAM if they're hot after you get booted. If noise is a
problem, Zalman makes a great (albeit f-ing huge) passive cooler. If
you can't spare the money, use a program such as Powerstrip
(www.entechtaiwan.com) to underclock your videocard, but that may not
help completely.

If your system is overclocked, then you may need to either slow it down
or overvoltage it. Try increasing Vagp by 0.1Vdc, and then give it a
shot. Disable Spread Spectrum in your BIOS, as well, if EMI is not a
problem. Spread Spectrum has been known to cause problems with
stability on overclocked systems.
mins after i turn on my computer and get on a game so
notreally enough time to overheat. And the system isnt
overclocked. Ill look into it though so thanks for the help.
 
scottneedshelp said:
i recently built a computer on my own and installed a windows 2000 on it that wasnt mine, then i upgraded it to a windows xp home. At first when windows 2000 was on the computer i was being kicked off in games at random times where the computer would just kick me off entirely and take me to my desktop. I thought there might be something wrong with the windows 2000 so i upgraded it to a windown xp but even with xp the same thing still happens which is random booting from games that i play. people have suggested that i need the latest video drivers for the games i play but i already have them, i already have the latest direct x also. I have been looking over alot of things to try and fix it but none of them have solved the problem. I was wondering if anyone here has an idea of why my computer may be doing this??? could it be a hardware malfuntion problem? maybe i screwed up building it somewhere? maybe it is a windows/programming problem? any help would be valued

Right-click on My Computer and select Manage.

Click on the +sign in front of the Event Viewer category header to
show the 3 event categories.

Browse through the entries in each category looking for red-flagged
error records whose date and time stamps correspond to when you were
booted off from a program.

Double click on an error record to see the details of that error.

Post the information from the error records back here if you need
additional advice or assistance with those.

(and see how much easier it is to read a message when it properly
capitalized and punctuated.)

Good luck



Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
 
mins after i turn on my computer and get on a game so
notreally enough time to overheat. And the system isnt
overclocked. Ill look into it though so thanks for the help.

<Make sure it's not overheating>
Hey, five minutes without a fan is all the Pentium 4 needs to overheat.
Take off the heatsink and your processor can reach 200 degrees
Fahrenheit in a matter of SECONDS. In fact, the Pentium 4 processor
puts out more heat per square centimeter than a nuclear reactor (Maximum
PC, January 2004 issue). If you have a Prescott-core P4, it will
overheat even faster than the commonplace Northwood and Williamette cores.

Where am I going with this? Even if you don't have a P4, don't rule out
overheating. Like I said, the next time your computer reboots, take the
side door off and touch the metal heatsink on your processor. If it's
hot, make sure your system's fans are running. If it's not hot, then
you may need a new power supply.

Also check the heatsink on your video card's GPU.


<Adjust Thermal Delay (HT Pentium 4 C-revisions only)>
If you don't have a hyper-threading Pentium 4 with an 800MHz FSB and
512KB of L2 cache, skip this step.

Turn off your computer and wait a few minutes. Grab a stopwatch and
turn it on. Stop the watch when Windows finishes loading and the hard
drive calms down, signifying that you're ready to go. Next, reboot and
enter your system's BIOS and find an option called "Delay Prior to
Thermal." Take the time it takes to boot, and set the delay for that
time, rounded up to the nearest choice. Generally, it should be set for
four minutes.

What DPTT does is have the chipset wait for the delay to expire before
monitoring the CPU's temperature. When the temp. exceeds 38C/100F, the
chipset begins mixing in HALT signals to cool the CPU down. Depending
on the temperature recorded by the on-die sensor, 50 to 70 percent of
your CPU time is taken up by this involuntary cooling method.

If your system overheats after you turn it on, decrease the delay. Four
minutes is the minimum. Don't start gaming until these four minutes
have expired.


<Check the power supply>
Erratic voltages and sudden drops in Vcore or Vdimm can reboot your
computer. Google the term "Motherboard Monitor 5." Run a CPU-intensive
program like Prime95 (www.mersenne.org), Folding@Home or 3Dmark2003 and
keep an eye on the voltages. Generally, they shouldn't vary more than
5% at any time.

Plus, by running Prime95, you might find the world's largest prime
number, and by running Folding@Home, you're studying protein folding to
help cure diseases. If you can't solve your computer problem, at least
you'll feel like you've done something to help mankind (or mathematicians).


<Check the outlet... really>
It may be your house's fault. Before you buy a new PSU, check the
outlet it's plugged into. Computers don't use transforming PSU's like
most appliances, they use switching PSU's. It's more energy-efficient,
however all but the most expensive PSU's condition the incoming voltage.
Line noise and spikes/surges/drops in the incoming voltage can also
cause rebooting. Plug your computer into a different outlet. If it
still acts up, try a different circuit (usually a different room).
 
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