Question on Firewall

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Wonder if the built-in one way firewall is safe, compared to the two way firewall, such as ZoneAlarm, etc. The reason
for asking this question is, I am not sure if I should allow some of the programs that ask for Internet connections.
Any comments will be highly appreciated.
 
User66 said:
Wonder if the built-in one way firewall is safe, compared to the two way
firewall, such as ZoneAlarm, etc. The reason for asking this question
is, I am not sure if I should allow some of the programs that ask for
Internet connections. Any comments will be highly appreciated.

Check out Comodo, a free, and very good, firewall and disable Windows'
"firewall". Get it here: http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/

Alias
 
Be careful with firewalls if you use your computer in a network. The Windows
firewall causes enough problems connecting to other computers. Some of the
commercial/free firewall programs can be an even worse nightmare.
 
I find the built in Firewall in Vista enough for most persons security
needs, its easy to configure and prevents incoming intrusions.
 
Andre said:
I find the built in Firewall in Vista enough for most persons security
needs, its easy to configure and prevents incoming intrusions.

And makes damned sure that Microsoft can call home on a regular basis.
Fox guarding hen house.

Alias
 
Using the Windows fireall breaks 2 of the 3
cardinal rules for safe browsing:

1) Use a good firewall.
2) Never open email from Paris Hilton.
3) Never use Microsoft software online.
:)

In this test the Windows Firewall came in last
among dozens, though it's hard to figure out
exactly what was tested:

http://www.matousec.com/projects/windows-personal-firewall-analysis/leak-tes
ts-results.php

If you only have a one-way firewall then you'll
probably find out later if you get some kind of
inection. (Most viruses, etc. will try to call out,
so they'll trip a 2-wat firewall as soon as they're
onboard.)

You also won't know about spyware, which includes
corporate spyware. (Which includes installed
Microsoft software.) It used to be common decency
for software not to go online without asking, but
these days a lot of corporate software does so.
On the other hand, if you want your software to
auto-update and don't care about music players,
etc. spying on you, then it's only infections that
you need to worry about.
Wonder if the built-in one way firewall is safe, compared to the two way
firewall, such as ZoneAlarm, etc. The reason
for asking this question is, I am not sure if I should allow some of the
programs that ask for Internet connections.
 
I'm sorry Alias, but I'm inclined to agree with Andre. I haven't used any
other firewall other than the Vista firewall since the launch of Windows
Vista. As for 'calling home' what information, exactly, is Microsoft worming
from your PC that you find so intrusive? There is more 'identifiable'
information gathered via any website you visit than there is from the
Windows Firewall. Any information sent via the Windows Firewall is none
identifiable - unless you class your ISP details as an intrusion in which
case every single website should be avoided. But then again, I forgot, in
your eyes, Microsoft is Big Brother. I've never used Linux I wonder how much
information that gives away? Or maybe it is so secure no one can obtain any
incriminating evidence!

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Alias said:
And makes damned sure that Microsoft can call home on a regular basis.
Fox guarding hen house.

Alias

What a typically stupid, ignorant and uninformed statement from a known
liar like you.
You have no morals, no class and are just an arrogant as*hole lying
linux troll.
Frank
 
: Be careful with firewalls if you use your computer in a network. The Windows
: firewall causes enough problems connecting to other computers. Some of the
: commercial/free firewall programs can be an even worse nightmare.
:
:

We have had enough trouble just to access our own network printers with ZoneAlarm. (On a normal
fresh loading caused no problem, but updating was a pain with ZoneAlarm. We have been using Sygate
Personal Firewall for a long time, but that does not work for Vista). Thanks for your comments.
 
Frank said:
What a typically stupid, ignorant and uninformed statement from a known
liar like you.
You have no morals, no class and are just an arrogant as*hole lying
linux troll.
Frank

Frank: FUD swallower.

If you use Windows Firewall, you're a very foolish computer user.

Alias
 
John said:
I'm sorry Alias, but I'm inclined to agree with Andre. I haven't used
any other firewall other than the Vista firewall since the launch of
Windows Vista. As for 'calling home' what information, exactly, is
Microsoft worming from your PC that you find so intrusive? There is more
'identifiable' information gathered via any website you visit than there
is from the Windows Firewall. Any information sent via the Windows
Firewall is none identifiable - unless you class your ISP details as an
intrusion in which case every single website should be avoided. But then
again, I forgot, in your eyes, Microsoft is Big Brother. I've never used
Linux I wonder how much information that gives away? Or maybe it is so
secure no one can obtain any incriminating evidence!


Keep telling yourself that. Do you think that if something is secretly
calling home, it's going to announce itself?

Alias
 
User66 said:
Wonder if the built-in one way firewall is safe, compared to the
two way firewall, such as ZoneAlarm, etc.

The Vista firewall IS a two-way firewall but the default is one way
only. If you wish to block/allow outgoing here's how:

http://searchwindowssecurity.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid45_gci1247138,00.html

The configuration is a bit difficult for most (including me!) so
there's help here:

http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/index.html

The free version may be all you need, check the comparisons under
the "Download and Buy" link.
 
Alias said:
Keep telling yourself that. Do you think that if something is secretly
calling home, it's going to announce itself?

Alias

You're really stupid aren't you.
Frank
 
Alias said:
Frank said:
Alias said:
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:

I find the built in Firewall in Vista enough for most persons
security needs, its easy to configure and prevents incoming intrusions.



And makes damned sure that Microsoft can call home on a regular
basis. Fox guarding hen house.

Alias


What a typically stupid, ignorant and uninformed statement from a
known liar like you.
You have no morals, no class and are just an arrogant as*hole lying
linux troll.
Frank


Frank: FUD swallower.

If you use Windows Firewall, you're a very foolish computer user.

Alias

You're rather stupid aren't you!
Frank
 
Thanks for the information.

:
: > Wonder if the built-in one way firewall is safe, compared to the
: > two way firewall, such as ZoneAlarm, etc.
:
: The Vista firewall IS a two-way firewall but the default is one way
: only. If you wish to block/allow outgoing here's how:
:
:
http://searchwindowssecurity.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid45_gci1247138,00.html
:
: The configuration is a bit difficult for most (including me!) so
: there's help here:
:
: http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/index.html
:
: The free version may be all you need, check the comparisons under
: the "Download and Buy" link.
:
:
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