question about new motherboards

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I noticed recently some new motherboards are going away from AGP and back to
the old style of IDE for video cards I am curious if someone has kept up on
this, and could explain why, some MB makers are doing this.
I thought AGP was much faster then IDE. an example of this is ASUS A9V, no
AGP port.
 
The actual transition is from AGP to PCIe(xpress) slots/lanes, not
IDE. Many newer gaming motherboards actually employ SLI which
is Scalable Link Interface (multiple Video cards).
 
I've seen that mentioned, (the PCIe) I mean, I've not kept current on these
hardware changes, and I'm looking at a new MB in the near future, and really
don't want the extra expense of a new type of Video card, since mine is
working fine, albiet a few years old, like 5 or so! is the new bus faster
than AGP xx
 
sgopus said:
I noticed recently some new motherboards are going away from AGP and back
to
the old style of IDE for video cards I am curious if someone has kept up
on
this, and could explain why, some MB makers are doing this.
I thought AGP was much faster then IDE. an example of this is ASUS A9V, no
AGP port.
Click to expand...

I think you mean PCI and PCI Express, not IDE. And a search for "A9V" on
the Asus site returns 0 results, so I can't check its specs. Checking a
couple of Google references to A9V, their links go to A8V models.

The A8V models seem to have AGP ports, some also with onboard video. Some
boards that have onboard video do not include separate video slots for cost
reasons.

But I expect that you will find that the board you're looking at *does*
have a PCI Express slot, probably a PCI Express 16x.

Manufacturers are shifting to PCI Express from AGP for performance reasons,
the same reasons that Serial ATA is better at high speeds than Parallel ATA.
PCI Express can also be cheaper to implement.

http://www.geeks.com/techtips/2005/techtips-031005.htm
http://www.directron.com/expressguide.html
etc.

HTH
-pk
 
It just wouldn't be practical to use a 5-Year old video card in a new
PC (Motherboard). Even using an on-board Video GPU would do
more performance vise than your existing card.
Yes PCIe is faster, mainly from a maximum bandwidth standpoint.
One issue to consider is that new games may employ DirectX-10
that may not be back ported to XP and will likely require Windows
Vista to use.
 
They aren't using the old style PCI--they are using PCI Express. Completely
different animal where the transfer speed is twice as fast as AGP.

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Thanks, that link was very informative.
I'm not much of a GAMER, but I do like to keep my system from getting ancient
just sometimes I can't afford to keep up, too expensive.
I knew the terms, but couldn't remember what was for what, old brain I guess.
Thanks guys for the info.
 
Larry said:
They aren't using the old style PCI--they are using PCI Express. Completely
different animal where the transfer speed is twice as fast as AGP.
Click to expand...

Is PCI Express of any real value to the average user who isn't a gamer
or doesn't use any programs that are graphics-intensive?
 
Not really with current OSes, but PCIe cards are cheaper in most cases.
In light of the video requirements for Vista's AERO interface, PCIe would
definitely be preferable to AGP.

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Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
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