problems after motherboard change

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I have a sony Vaio(pentium 4 1.6) that the motherboard went bad. I changed
the motherboard and cpu to a non oem setup(msi and celeron). I did backup
first. my problem is that when I went to boot back up it would just keep
rebooting. I tried the sony recovery cds and they said they could not be used
on this computer. I tried a (borrowed disk) repair install and it still would
not work. I tried a fresh install w/format(with same borrowed disk) and the
problem is still there. My question is will I have to buy windows new and
start fresh? will I need a full version or a upgrade? any suggestions are
greatly appreciated.
 
Hi Mark,

If you own a previous version of Windows operating system CD, then all
you need is a Upgrade CD.

If you don't have a previous version of Windows CD, then you need the
Full Version of Windows XP CD. Don't get an OEM version, but a Microsoft
version, where you have full Microsoft Support for free for life for the
purpose of installing Windows XP.

You will need the CD that came with the motherboard in order to install
its drivers.

And if you don't have your Hard Drive partitioned, I suggest that you
partition it. Makes Backups a lot easier to do.
 
1st any new MB change requires a new xp install (booting to xp cd,w/ format),
repairs dont cut it...The "borrowed cd" will work,however it cant get
registered
to that pc if its already been registered to another (30 days it'll run,but
no
updates can be accessed thru windows updater w/o registering it).Sony is
correct,and yes you'll need a full version of xp..
 
Andrew said:
1st any new MB change requires a new xp install (booting to xp cd,w/ format),
repairs dont cut it...
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A lie, as usual.




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thecreator said:
If you own a previous version of Windows operating system CD, then
all you need is a Upgrade CD.

If you don't have a previous version of Windows CD, then you need
the Full Version of Windows XP CD.
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Not necessarily. It would be much cheaper to buy an Upgrade version and a
used copy of Windows 98, which would qualify him to use the Upgrade version.

Don't get an OEM version, but a
Microsoft version, where you have full Microsoft Support for free for
life for the purpose of installing Windows XP.
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I agree that a Retail version is greatly preferable to an OEM version, but
not for that reason. Excellent free support is widely available without
going to Microsoft, at places like here on this newsgroup.

As far as I'm concerned, the main reason a retail version should be
preferred over an OEM one is that the OEM version's license comes with a
giant restriction: its license ties it permanently to the first computer
it's installed on. It can never legally be moved to another computer, sold,
or given away.

And since there's very little difference in price between an OEM version and
a retail Upgrade, the Upgrade should be preferred.

You will need the CD that came with the motherboard in order to
install its drivers.

And if you don't have your Hard Drive partitioned, I suggest that
you partition it. Makes Backups a lot easier to do.
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A word on the terminology: partitioning is required, not optional.
Partitioning is the act of creating one or
more partitions on the drive. Since you can't use a drive until it has at
least one partition on it, *everyone* needs to partition.

The only question is whether you should have more than one partition. This
is not a question to which everyone has the same answer, and you'll find
different points of view. My view is that most people's partitioning scheme
should be based on their backup scheme. If, for example, you backup by
creating a clone or image on the entire drive, then as ingle partition might
be best. If, on the other hand, you backup only your data, then the backup
process is facilitated by having all data in a separate partition.


Except for those running multiple operating systems, there is seldom any
benefit to having more than two partitions.
 
Hi Ken,
Not necessarily. It would be much cheaper to buy an Upgrade version and a
used copy of Windows 98, which would qualify him to use the Upgrade
version.
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True, if he can readily buy a used Windows 98 CD, cheaply.
The only question is whether you should have more than one partition. This
is not a question to which everyone has the same answer, and you'll find
different points of view. My view is that most people's partitioning
scheme should be based on their backup scheme. If, for example, you backup
by creating a clone or image on the entire drive, then as ingle partition
might be best. If, on the other hand, you backup only your data, then the
backup process is facilitated by having all data in a separate partition.
Click to expand...

My belief is that you need, one partition for your operating system and
programs. Some believe that you can install programs on another partition or
Hard Drive, so if you do need to reformat and reinstall the operating
system, you don't need to reinstall the programs. For programs that keep
there data files with the program, there is a slight advantage to it.
However, the program must be reinstall, also, because it does not exist in
the new Windows Registry file. The programs need to be reinstalled for
Windows to locate the programs.

One partition for the operating system, one partition for the programs, one
partition for My Documents Folder and a person's E-mails and one partition
for holding an image of the operating system partition as a backup. A total
of 4 partitions on a Hard Drive, if the Hard drive is large enough to
support it.

Just my opinion and beliefs. :)
 
thecreator said:
Hi Ken,


True, if he can readily buy a used Windows 98 CD, cheaply.
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They are widely available, very inexpensively.

My belief is that you need, one partition for your operating
system and programs. Some believe that you can install programs on
another partition or Hard Drive, so if you do need to reformat and
reinstall the operating system, you don't need to reinstall the
programs. For programs that keep there data files with the program,
there is a slight advantage to it. However, the program must be
reinstall, also, because it does not exist in the new Windows
Registry file. The programs need to be reinstalled for Windows to
locate the programs.
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That's correct. I'ts not just the registry, however. There are other
associated files (dlls, for example) and other pointers to the installed
programs within Windows. With very few exceptions, if you reinstall Windows,
all your programs have to be reinstalled too.

One partition for the operating system, one partition for the
programs, one partition for My Documents Folder and a person's
E-mails and one partition for holding an image of the operating
system partition as a backup. A total of 4 partitions on a Hard
Drive, if the Hard drive is large enough to support it.
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Just my opinion and beliefs. :)
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Well, my opinion is very different from yours. Separating programs on a
partition by themselves is useless, as you yourself point out

The operating system is the least of what most people need to backup, and
backup up anything to another partition is the weakest form of backup there
is anyway. It's only slightly better than no backup at all, because it
leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup to
many of the most common dangers: head crashes, user errors, severe power
glitches, nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the
computer.

Except for those who run multiple operating systems, it's a rare person who
needs more than two partitions: one for Windows and programs, the other for
data.
 
Mark K said:
I have a sony Vaio(pentium 4 1.6) that the motherboard went bad. I changed
the motherboard and cpu to a non oem setup(msi and celeron). I did backup
first. my problem is that when I went to boot back up it would just keep
rebooting. I tried the sony recovery cds and they said they could not be
used
on this computer. I tried a (borrowed disk) repair install and it still
would
not work. I tried a fresh install w/format(with same borrowed disk) and
the
problem is still there. My question is will I have to buy windows new and
start fresh? will I need a full version or a upgrade? any suggestions are
greatly appreciated.
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